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130:: "This category is for articles about works where the articles do not have a year of establishment because the year is not known and is never likely to be known (eg. historical works)." It is highly unlikely that any anime or manga series would resist all attempts to discover at least a year of release, since the media forms of manga and anime probably haven't been around for long enough for such information to have been completely lost or obscured beyond recovery. — 125:
I'm nominating these categories for renaming for two reasons: first, the word "date" should be changed to "year" since we actually don't have an exact date of release for many anime and manga series (though manga is more likely not to have an exact one), and these categories are not intended to cover
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Overlapping categories. All nuclear power station owners and operators are at the same time nuclear power companies and I can't imagine any nuclear power company, which is not owner or operator of the nuclear power station. Of course, there could be some theoretical cases, however, I don't see there
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As named, the category would include all military deaths in all wars fought by Israel since 1948, above and beyond other polemic issues raised by the category. This should be created on a broader basis to cover categories of similar deaths by all parties, if it should exist at all.
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Owners and operators of nuclear power stations are not necessarily same companies, but in most of cases they are. Right now I don't see any practical reason to keep them separated and this seems like over-categorization. So, my proposal is to merge also
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I suspect your little secret is probably safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother here in the sub-basement of Knowledge. But to be safe, maybe we should scrub it just to be sure you don't get nabbed and vanish into thin air on New Year's Eve.
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killed by the IDF, since I can't imagine that the category would be defining for a military death in a war against Israel (see Alansohn's points below). But as Johnbod points out, civilian/military distinctions can be less than a brightline.
484:: extremely narrow in definition and very little prospect of growth. It's really a gem of its sort; in fact, you could say it's named with the precision of a Casio watch. (No need to upmerge as the sole article is already well-categorized.) 1200:- I've added the sub-category in order to complete the job at one go, whatever the decision. I'm leaning toward supporting this proposal, but I'd like to hear from other editors first, including the creator. 725:
in order to expand the acronym. If it's desired to hash out whether this should contain civilian or military, all people or just non-Palestinians, either renominate this for further renaming or use a hatnote
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these cases, but only those in which not even the year of release is known. Second, the word "unknown" should be changed to "missing", per the lead of the (current) parent category
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Ah, I didn't see that; having looked over his talk page, it's not entirely surprising. I guess I'll have to take up some of the slack myself and do a bit of "devil's advocacy".
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rename. While there is consensus to rename, there is no consensus on what to rename to, even after relisting. As such, I'm going to take Vegas's suggestion and just rename to
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could be a parent category. This one appears to be for peace campaigners who have been killed who trying to observe IDF or protect Palestinians from them by their presence.
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I'm not sure if we categorize people by the military group that killed them, but any input on this topic is welcome. (If kept, obviously needs to be renamed, maybe to
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People should be categorised according to their specific descent, and preferably only where that is a defining characteristic, not merely as "multiracial".
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But if kept this should be a technical category to be placed on the talk page, since it is not categorising content but identifying defects in the article.
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Lots of deaths by IDF closed with untransparent investigations. But somehow a better name might be needed because this list only contains western people.
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rename. Though not mandated by consensus of this discussion, I'd agree with Peter's recommendation to change these categories to talk-page categories
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All of the people presently listed are civilians, and are not Palestinians or Israelis. The name or definition could be modified to reflect this.
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Only one item, and even it's on shaky ground. No hope of expansion.
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the established wikipedia disambiguate is 'football (soccer)'
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Very few people who hold or have held this position are
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
December 25
December 27
deletion review
Good Ol’factory
02:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Category:Anime (date of release unknown)
Category:Anime (year of release missing)
Category:Manga (date of release unknown)
Category:Manga (year of release missing)
Category:Year of work unknown
Dino
guy
1000
22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
日本穣
05:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Quasirandom
talk
14:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Peterkingiron
talk
19:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
deletion review
Vegaswikian
talk
22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Category:Multiracial actors

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