1614:. As a Canadian who has lived in the U.S. and in multiple Commonwealth countries, I can interchangeably and quite happily use both British and American English without caring much about which I'm using. So I had no real opinion on this matter when I initially saw the discussion. After reading through all the comments and looking at all the linked sources, I agree that "theater" should be used here. The sources I have seen seem to indicate that "theater" is (overall) narrowly preferred, though it wouldn't be "wrong" to use "theatre" in the U.S. This change also brings the category into conformity with other U.S. spellings of words that end in "-re" in British English, like
1282:." Second, "theater" did not have preference, why does the MOS clearly say that it does? Why do UT and the SUNY campuses say to use "theater"? Why does Columbia University say "theater" is used in American English? If a university style guideline says to use "theater," the word IS being used more commonly. When askoxford.com says that "theater" is American English, the word IS being used more frequently. For that matter
1642:: Which sources are they? And why would we prefer them when we have academic sources that say otherwise? Our guidelines regarding the English language are built from using academic sources such as Columbia University's guide, university style guides, etc. We don't use "innumerable New York City Broadway productions" as they are not academic sources. They could use "theatre" because they like it, or
1820:. As it stands, the category name is somewhat ambiguous as there are major leagues in other countries. Capitalizing MLB would solve that problem as well. The only concern is that there are some teams in this category who played in leagues which are disputedly termed "major" by various historians. The category even mentions at the top that
1347:. Yes, I believe I have changed from the last time. The case of the style guides listed above does suggest that one form should be favored over the other. Most American English spell checkers don't accept theatre as valid. If we don't change it this will be a continuing discussion. No harm is done by changing and no one is confused.
785:- Since we are talking about American theaters, as "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation." and categories should also follow these naming conventions, we should rename the category. U.S. university style guides, including those from
943:: The instructions say "use an umbrella nomination (each category must be tagged, for nominations involving large numbers of categories tagging help can be requested at the talk page):" - All I need to do is ask for help for tagging all of the categories, then your requirement will be fulfilled. Help has been requested
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As a holder of degrees in theatre from both the UK and a couple of institutions in the US, I can confirm that neither of your claims here are accurate. There is no preferred spelling in the US--one of my US degrees is in "theatre", not "theater". The difference between the -re and -er spellings, too,
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1861:. I believe that "Major League Baseball" became a proper noun and the formal (trademarked) name of the two highest North American leagues sometime in the 1980s. As the nominator noted, Knowledge articles generally treat it as a proper noun for all years, so it's appropriate to be consistent here.
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3168:- This seems like a perfectly reasonable proposal for standardizing these categories. (And especially when the nominator -- unlike many an editor -- has already gone to the trouble of actually listing all of the sub-cats, it would be a shame to see all that effort go to waste... :)
1630:- The usage in the sources I'm looking at (including innumerable New York City Broadway productions) seem to indicate that the "general" usage (which, as noted above, is not universally consistent) is "theatre" for the stage presentations, vs. "theater" for film showplaces. -
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1690:-ish. - It's saying, there are X instances of this, so it must be common. Even then, you still have to go against sources like the dictionaries and Columbia University, which are reliable sources which describe how things are done in the American English language.
1238:. The claim stands or falls on the basis of any such sources; manual of styles for particular universities essay writing hardly constitutes the kind of evidence such a claim requires. Both the -re and -er are accepted in the US and no priority exists between them.
1043:: And last time I said why the rationale was not correct. When you said "SUNY New Paltz ignore (very rightly) their own style guide by having a "Department of Theatre Arts"!" - It was not ignoring its own style guideline rightly. In that case "Theatre" arts was a
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1114:. The OED does not recognise the variation as one pertaining to a US/UK distinction either (which it usually does when the variation relates to the difference between US and UK English). How many times do we have to rehearse this argument?
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1385:: Please provide a reference stating that this would institutionalize "inaccuracies." I have sources from three American universities, the OED (AskOxford), and the existing Knowledge guidelines and all support a change to "Theater."
1545:- I must also add that the Knowledge Guideline page cites "American spellings: The Chambers Dictionary (1998), page xx and Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition (2003). Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, Inc.
947:- I may tag some daughter entries, but it is not reasonable to expect me to tag every single one, so therefore as long as I tag some of them, then that requirement is fulfilled and the "Oppose" input has no valid rationale left.
1402:- the OED and common usage in the US indicate the inaccuracy such a change would institutionalise. Your sources do not support the claim you are making. Both spellings are in use in the US and no priority exists between them.
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1707:WhisperToMe
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1648:WhisperToMe
1597:WhisperToMe
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979:in response
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867:WhisperToMe
819:WhisperToMe
809:WhisperToMe
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672:Andy's talk
629:Andy's talk
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55:December 27
43:December 28
38:December 26
3635:Rename all
1940:, and the
1662:Stagebills
1419:explicitly
1077:Mr. Vernon
643:Delete all
174:Delete, --
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3342:Wikimedia
3319:, and on
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3299:is about
2071:Wizardman
1846:Mayumashu
1666:WP:NC(CN)
1257:. There,
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783:WP:ENGVAR
599:The nine
3677:Cgingold
3419:Cgingold
3401:Cgingold
3170:Cgingold
3087:Commment
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1777:Kbdank71
1467:Alansohn
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608:Coord
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