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1905:... but I disagree on the appropriateness of the category. I understand Peter's concern, and used to argue similar positions, but I have come round to the view that the wikipedia category system is not a precise taxonomy, but rather a navigational tool which necessarily makes some compromises with taxonomical perfection to allow easy navigation. In this case, I don't actually think the problem is all that great: it's a category which is accurate for time period it describes, but doesn't claim to cover all aspects of the articles within it. I don't see this as being different from other categories with a limited time-frame applied to articles with a longer time-span. -- 3045:. I am sure that his category of films released on a particular DVD label was created with good intentions, and somebody has worked hard to populate it, but it seems to me to be a flawed idea to start categorising creative works of any form (books, films, songs) by every detail of their commercial publication. Many (most?) creative works are made commercially available more than once, many of them by more than one publisher, and this approach would rapidly lead to each article sprouting multiple categories which relate to relatively minor and non-defining commercial aspects of the work. 1683:. Endashes in category names look better, but are a pain-in-the-arse to type, for both readers and editors. They work in article names, where we use hard redirects, but since hard redirects are not yet used in categories it's silly to include a character which isn't marked on any keyboard I have ever used. (The multi-key special techniques for entering such characters vary between operating systems, even if anyone can be bothered to remember them). -- 1740:. Since the confederacy only exist from 1861-1865, the disambiguator appears superfluous. I think I can infer why it was added: the purpose of the category seems to be to separate off the articles and categories on the 11 states from the other articles and sub-categories of ]. However, this seems to me to be an unsatisfactory way of doing things. If it really is necessary to use a sub-category such as this, why not follow the example of 1872:-- Categories need to be in a format that can easily be added to articles, but most keyboards do not provide an em-dash. If changed articles are liable to be miscategorised with the en-dash. I know we prefer an em-dash in article titles, but the en-dash version will usually also exist as a redirect. Category redirects do not function the same way, and are a problem to some one who has to patrol them to keep them empty. 3987: 1623: 3497:; some party names changed to match their main articles as well. The enterprise of categorizing by political party membership for non-political figures is questionable in itself, but not directly relevant here as after exhaustive checks of all listed articles, I am confident that all listed "members" are also in fact politicians. - 1211:
BLP issues. People rarely self-identify using pejorative terms, and using third-party assessments leaves the matter open to conflicting POV interpretations. Then there is the difficulty of tracking a person's changing opinions across their lifetime using a singular category. All of which goes to why
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The Titans played in more than one stadium. LP Field is in Nashville. The Titans played their first season in Memphis, I believe at the Liberty Bowl. They may have played some games in Vanderbilt's stadium; I don't remember clearly. I know that is listed as "Tennessee Oilers"; is that fully and
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Concur with BHG here- every movie goes through multiple home video releases in the decades after release, VHS, laserdisc, DVD, Blue-Ray, HD-DVD, and soon, whatever comes next. The fact that half a century after their release a film was available for purchase on a certain website matters very, very
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Should Kentucky and Missouri be included in that category, or perhaps in a separate one? Both had Confederate governments, both elected members to both houses of the Confederate Congress, each had a star on the Confederate flag, etc. They both maintained pro-Union governments as well, obviously.
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I nearly speedily deleted this category for the reasons raised above, but thought it better to see what others thought. However, I still think that an-out-process speedy deletion is justified, and I suggest that to prevent any further misuse, it should be deleted immediately without prejudice to
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I don't criticse your action in depopulating an unsourced attack category (whilst generally very bad practive, I think it's it's actually a good thing to do with attack categories) but you really should have stated that fact clearly in your nomination rather than waiting until asked. Not doing so
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per nom, and per the general precedent of deprecating people-by-opinion categories. Firstly, this title is far too simplistic to cover the range of opinions which might prompt someone to add it to an article. Secondly, using a pejorative term like this as a category title makes it usable as an
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Valerie Solanas was quite upfront about her misandrism. Same can be said about Andrea Dworkin and Robin Morgan. (Robin Morgan's quote: I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. ).
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shows Valerie Solanas' misandry. Andrea Dworkin herself described her as a misandrist in this statement: "Q: People think you are very hostile to men. A: I am." In addition to Robin Morgan's praise of misandry in the quote I showed you earlier, she is also described as a misandrist here:
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so all this franchise's stadia are in a single category, and then doing the same to all the other NFL teams that have moved cities/names and are similarly organized. The only one we'd have to be careful on would be the Cleveland Browns (As the old Browns are now the Baltimore Ravens.)
980:, not editors' own interpretations. If a person describes himself as a feminist, or if another reliable source describes him as one, that's sufficient. We don't look at a person's writings and say, "You know, she expressed pro-feminist views so she belongs in the Feminists category." — 264:
Do we have any other "Prose works of .." categories? A search suggests not. But we have many "Books by..." and "Essays by.." categories. Wagner would no doubt thoroughly approve of a unique category structure being created just for him, but I do not. If articles are written about the
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I suggest that any further additions to this category should also be promptly removed while the category is under discussion. (I know that this runs counter to our normal deprecation of any depopulation of categories under discussion, but this one is so problematic that per
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Then how would you determine if someone belonged to Category:Feminists for instance? eg. among the categories where Valerie Solanas has been placed, Categories: American feminist writers, Anarcha-feminists can only be attributed to her on the basis of her public statements.
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Although this is a side-issue to the nom, I have some sympathy with Kleinzach's position here. Really people shouldn't have to go through an intermediate category to get to Wagner's compositions, which is what (rightly, heaven knows) the vast majority will be looking for.
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Because of this I don't see how this is a personal attack on them to class them as misandrists. However, it may make sense to rename it to 'open misandrists' to avoid adding people who do not intend to be classified as misandrists (with whom it would be an attack).
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I would agree with the idea of "fixing" the slash issue in the main article title as suggested. i.e. move to "The Thad Jones / Mel Lewis Orchestra" instead of "The Thad Jones/ Mel Lewis Orchestra." Then the new category name proposal makes even more sense
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is a mess - firstly it should adhere to the convention of reserving "artist" for visual artists in categories, and secondly it is a mix of individual visual artist categories and "by type" parent categories for other media - these should be moved off to
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Call it original research, call it an attack, call it unsourced negative BLP information, I don't particularly mind which as long as it stays in the realm of the deleted. Other people's opinions about a subject has no place in categorizing people-
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had added a few unsourced quotes he attributed to her and cited as examples of her misandry, which was mentioned previously but not sourced.) I removed the five people from the category before nominating it for speedy deletion as an attack page.
4384:. The three other schools can be added to the navigation template, but even with their addition this will still be a small and well-defined set of 9 articles which will not be subject to frequent changes. We don't need a category for that. -- 513:. This is a bit high-handed, I must say. I would delete the new categories myself if I hadn't already expressed an opinion. For sure the closing admin should delete the categories if there is no consensus in this discussion to create them. 4535:
There are only four pages in this category and it seems somewhat unlikely that there will be enough to justify its existence. Several larger cities in California (and elsewhere) do not have categories of their own as well.
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some of the bands that were already in the category, suggesting that there may yet be more valid entries. And there's no minimum size requirement for a category, either — a category might be deletable for size if it's
472:. I dunno whether Wagner is planning to write any more autobiographical material, but since he has long since departed this life, we mortals are unlikely to hear about anything he does write. It's not a great idea for 199:
Yes you would need another category, but, no, you would not have to merge them; to do so would be to lose the place in the essay categories, a thought that does not seem to have occured to anyone at the RW project.
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Thanks for your note. I added a note up top with more information. I know that categories aren't supposed to be emptied when they're being discussed here, but I didn't think it was necessary to go into the history.
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A non-standard category created to pre-empt the outcome of a discussion process in which Smerus's own proposal to create such a category had been opposed by several contributors?? That's outrageous conduct, and
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This is too much sub-dividing. Cancer deaths in Arizona; Leukemia deaths.. fine. However, we don't need categories for every possible intersection of specific disease and first level sub-national division.
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Settlments is the more general category and should be the parent of the neighbourhood category. So I made it so and moved some neighborhood articles from settlement to neighborhood where they belong .
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wholly accurate for the entire time any game was played in those two places? As mentioned above, in their prior incarnation as the Houston Oilers they played elsewhere, most notably in the Astrodome.
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The category's intro says "The following is a partial list of Warner Archive official DVD-R releases available from Warner Home Video's website", and the inclusion of purchase info rather contradicts
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have potential for expansion. However, since it's a local technical college and not a university, there may be not much else about it is sufficiently notable to justify more standalone articles. --
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all three of the articles which were categorised in it, because in each case was there no mention of "blood money" in the article, let alone a reference to it. The category text says that it is
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per nominator. Doing a good work with these, I think. (I'd support changing all "members of" categories to "politicians" categories in all cases, and just weed out the non-politicians.)
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The fact that a larger entity doesn't have a corresponding category of its own is never, in and of itself, a valid reason to delete the one at hand — anybody, at any time, can
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was the proper action. I mean even if we did want to have something like this which for reasons described above is a bad idea, this isn't even the right naming, it should be
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as a sub cat of the above, so that would seem to render all the above discussion unnecessary. As Wagner wrote very few 'book's, 'Prose works' is a more appropriate category.
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I agree, the speedy criterion does not appear to have consensus, at least in this discussion (I thought I might be the only objector here, but it seems not). Discuss it at
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per Johnbod. The category system works best when we maintain consistency in structure, and I see no pressing reason in this case the break that consistency. Even if a
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Earlier today I removed all the people from the category as unsourced and nominated it for CSD as an attack page. When the speedy was declined, I brought it here. —
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No, that's not correct. "Works by" categories can be for musical works, written works, or artistic works. You are overlooking the parallel category structure of
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Yeah, you're right. We actually have the Browns categorized like I proposed doing the entire NFL. Thanks for the link, my memory had gotten rusty on that.
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Seems like we have a bit of a mess here, as two former names of this team are in sub-categories. All told we have six stadia... I would be happier with
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would be deleted. If this distribution format is especially notable- and there's no indication it is, it could be as an article, not a category.
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a liar. The fact that some people sincerely apply those pejorative labels does not make them any less unsuitable as a basis for categorisation. --
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to both parents. One of the schools also covers primary education, and may need to be given a further category as a Catholoc Primary School.
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which specifically allows for such small categories where they are "part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". --
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per nominator, with congrats for diligently checking that these people were all active politicians and not just party members. --
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per nom to clarify that this category refers to the output of one band, not to musical censorship or political repression. --
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for music. Wagner was a composer. He primarily wrote music, not novels or detective stories. Accordingly composers are
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We generally don't create categories that use subjective criteria to attack people. Thus there are no categories for
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Kleinzach, you appear not to have noticed the difference, even though it has been widely discussed in this debate.
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Another BLP minefield under the garb of a category. I also note this category is, as of this moment, empty?
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Perhaps articles on the Confederate governments of both states should be added to this category? Example:
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expand beyond four articles), but a potentially open-ended category such as this one has no minimum size.
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little. We don't categorize things by how they can be purchased- a category of "Songs downloadable on
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nightmare, since its attachment to any biography of a living person would raise serious legal problems.
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per the general precedent of deprecating people-by-opinion categories like Liberals and Conservatives.
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categories, which is why there have been widespread objections to the creation of the non-standard
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Actually, both incarnations of the Browns are considered by the NFL to be a single franchise. See
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I agree with Peterkingiron on the en-dash, although I think I have a better solution (as above,
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structures, because it contains written works and musical works. (For a similar situation, see
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debating special characters in category names? Time to revisit speedy criterion #7, no doubt.
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terms. And the fact that I got it from four entries to seven with just a two-minute visit to
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I could support that - though I'd suggest that this too needs an "...of America" at the end.
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Interpreting somebody's public statements to determine whether they belong in a category is
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I've had another look, and I still say it does. the difference is that the key article for
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permanently unexpandable (e.g. a category for members of a broken-up rock group which can
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I suggest that it's sufficient to categorise films by the studio which created them (e.g.
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the appropriate category for the larger entity. The only relevant question is whether
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When I read this header, I instantly started to wonder how a song could be illegal.
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books/autobiographies or whatever, they should be categorized per the usual schemes.
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I support this as a second choice. It's better than the current name, in any case.
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If I put a few minutes work into it, I am sure I could find several quotes calling
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suggests that it may, in fact, be justified — that article, in fact, doesn't even
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may in some cases be defining, but the report is not. This category also raises
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listed in that category. I've looked and I haven't found one. The suggestion by
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to parents. Another probably not great idea at partial subcategorization by
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and I think it is worth recording as a sub-category within that category.
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of shared opinion. (Michael Moore, my ass.) The idea that we'd even
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Double standards — and so early in the year! It would be preferable
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I don't think it does. Can I persuade you to take another look?
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either of the suggestions mentioned immediately above.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
December 23
December 25
deletion review
Category:Essays by Richard Wagner
Category:Prose works by Richard Wagner
Category:Autobiographical works by Richard Wagner
Category:Works by Richard Wagner
Category:Autobiographies
Category:Works by Richard Wagner
Category:Works by artist
Jafeluv
talk
14:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Category:Essays by Richard Wagner
Category:Prose Works of Richard Wagner
discussion at WikiProject Richard Wagner
Smerus
talk
21:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Wwmargera
talk
21:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Johnbod
talk
03:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Category:Prose works of Richard Wagner
Klein
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