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meets that project's criteria for A class. At this point the article is still a Good Article, but it is also an A class article for that project. All other involved projects may accept that the article is A class, in which case the article is A class and a Good Article. However, one or other projects may feel that the article does not meet their criteria for A class, in which case they will have it listed as GA class, so the article is shown as both A class and GA class. If the article becomes Featured, then it becomes Featured class for all projects. While not all Good Articles are GA class, all Good Articles are listed in
967:. I assume that Theophilus was from the town now called Şanlıurfa, and a subject of the Abbasid Caliphate. Ethnically he was a Syriac Christian, not a Greek. I am not sure what the other categories should be. Iraq is an anachronistic category, but I do not think we have eliminated the anachronisms in this case. 479:
especially since these categories are all children of the annual sporting events tree. You could have "Annual sporting events in June" to hold Wimbledon, the French Open, etc., and "June sporting events" would hold the always-in-June Olympics while being a parent of "Annual sporting events in June".
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It's redundant: all GA-Class articles are good articles, and all good articles are GA-class, so literally every good article can be placed here. It's like having "FA-class Featured articles" and putting all the featured articles of all types into it. I suppose that this could be converted into "All
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If you want to have them all together, let's emulate the cleanup categories and go with "All Good Articles", or some capitalisation variant thereof. I still don't think it's useful (why would someone browse among more than 21,000 articles?), but if others think we should retain it, this would be my
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which says that categories must be a "defining characteristic" which is "commonly and consistently" named by reliable sources discussing the topic. There are virtually no biographies where recording an Elvis tribute song can be said to be commonly and consistently named as a defining characteristic.
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An article may be A class and also be a Good Article, but an article cannot be B class and a Good Article/GA class, though it can be A class and GA class. By convention when an article is listed as GA, that becomes its base class for all projects; however, a project may decide that the article also
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seems to be collecting categories rather than articles in its children. I think a category for all the Good Articles themselves is a good idea – no relying on the "by project" element to navigate them. Unlike the other ratings (stub, start etc.), Featured and Good article statuses are usually not
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Theophilus of Edessa is described in the article start as a Greek astrologer and scholar, and is of Greek ethnicity, but if this category is deleted he will not be categorised by ethnicity except as a translator of Greek. The Armenian, Greek and Jewish people were widely dispersed throughout the
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I'm not entirely opposed to this, but I feel that "former" implies that something has been succeeded/replaced by another thing or that the thing has changed (former president, former country, former capital, etc). "Defunct" clearly denotes that these are things which have simply ceased to exist.
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per J 1982: if the Summer Olympics were always held in June, they'd fit in "June sporting events", but they wouldn't fit in "Annual sporting events in June". However, if we have an alternate tree to hold non-annual events per month, the proposed rename would be a good solution to the problem,
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tree. I feel the naming should match that parent to indicate this is for recurring events and not one-offs held in the month (a fact which would make the month a much less definitive facet of the event). I also feel the "events in April" wording is much more idiomatic than the current choice.
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I support conversion into "All Knowledge (XXG) Good articles". I think it's important that the "Knowledge (XXG)" be in there to distinguish that this is a community rating (not simple description, as in "All free media").
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redundant. More useful may be categories such as "B-class GA articles", as it seems that such articles require a bit of attention. I've no opinion on whether this should be kept, as I don't know why it was created.
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to account for those parts of sport that are not exactly competitions in nature (professional wrestling is a common example). I also propose using "sporting" over "sports" as a mirror of it's semantic opposite in
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linked to a project and should be independent of that structure. I also support creation of such a category for Featured articles. I support the function of the category, but should we (a) upmerge to
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Not the most appropriate category for the sole target and the parent categories are barely populated as it is. Greeks were not a major element in the development of astrology during this period.
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Even the ordinary "June events" should not be categorized under "annual events by month". Move "annual events by month" to "events by month" (or "recurring events by month").
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as far as contents go, so to resolve issues of upmerging or not and to where, users can deal with this with the categorization of the article.)
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Single-instance category (and inaccurate at that, Theophilus of Edessa was active in Iraq, not Greece) unlikely to be ever populated
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This category covers recurring sporting events which have now stopped. The word typically used in this respect is
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tree. On reflection, my logic is about recurrence of the event, not specifically annual vs. biennial etc.
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130:. I don't think this warrants a merge as we have maintained a parent-child structure between 73:
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Not all of these are annual at all. Some are biannual, others held every fourth year.
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I agree "former", "historical" or "earlier" looks better when it compes to events.
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to keep these at a separate location (and perhaps rename the current parent to
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories.
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In the current WP categorization scheme, the category to merge to would be
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without prejudice against a fresh nomination of the alternative proposal.
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These are a set of newly-created categories that are part of the
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so that all are contained directly there, or (b) rename to
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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No need for this upmerge, the article is already in
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
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עוד מישהו
Od Mishehu
10:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Category:Disbanded sports events
Category:Defunct sporting events
Category:Defunct sports competitions
Category:Sports events
Category:Sports competitions
Category:Recurring sporting events
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23:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Nyttend
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01:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
J 1982
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