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365:, whose only relevance to the subject is an editorial comment made by Diderot in the Encyclopedie. While this comment is amusing and illustrates the challenges faced by the editors of the Encyclopedie in 1750s, it is also arguably original research, as I can find no third party references about Diderots statement or the plants overall relevance to the category of "Encyclopedism".
437:: We have no reason whatsoever to target a particular genre of writing a research as somehow unworthy of a category (or an article; next stop AFD – if anyone is making NN claims, that will be easily disproven since there are entire books about this topic and lots of scholarly papers from textual analysis, historiography, etc.).
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Just wondering...is this only being done with tennis players? I see categories like "Category:Footballers from Newham (London borough)", "Category:Footballers from
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Each of these examples has been identified by a critic as an antihero, although the classification is somewhat subjective. Some of the entries may be disputed by other sources and some may contradict all established definitions of
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chopping block also? If they aren't, then I'm not sure I would go along with deletion of only tennis players. It seems like country (or perhaps a state) is good enough, I just want to make sure all sports are treated equally.
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