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3309:?? The same thing applies to all articles - if it gets changed again sometime in the unforeseeable future, the category can change with it each time. (And this isn't one article falling out of any kind of convention - there are many others that the old convention didn't fit, hence the change in both the convention and some of the article titles.) --
501:, but what about renaming all of the instances where nation and state coalesce? I know that there are dozens of people from Kosovo, Macedonia and the Albanian diaspora who are categorized in Albanian people. The opinion of one user is not a good enough reason to change from the most common and correct usage.--
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Schweiker in 1999 and then the 'fineness' of Roy's choices were "later checked" by his buddy Andy Martin. I'm glad these mountains are fine for Roy, Andy and others but this does not make for a category, per
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