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1707:-- the cateogory contains a Jewish charity, which received donations, and probably should not be here. Otherwise the contents are the participants in a company, apparently involved in a fraudulent bankruptcy. They could conveniently be linked through a navbox template. We have allowed some family categories and deleted others, for exmaple one related to Harriet Harman, the British politician. 1817:, the media has been saturated with the news about the cases involving them for a few years now. In the North American English-speaking Orthodox world, every single Orthodox and Haredi paper runs guaranteed weekly ads about this or that meeting or fund set up to help them and bring their plight to the readership, on the same level of concern as the 189:. If the term is just too technical, I understand it might need to be changed for a wider audience. However, "laucher" is indeed the term used in the industry for firearms or pneumatic arms launching grenades, batons, etc., and "less lethal" has, for probably more than a decade, been preferred over "non-lethal". Kind of the same idea as "safe 1554:
The Rubashkins are not the Rothschilds whose scions have been notable over many generations and in many countries. One person owned one company and was involved in one court case. Looking at the history of the category (Crime families?) this category's purpose was meant more for propaganda against
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is of course joking, when he states “one person owned one company and was involved in one court case”. It's very difficult to count the members of the Rubashkin family who have been invoved in court cases - but one can try: Aaron Rubashkin, Moshe Rubashkin, Sholom Rubashkin sen., Sholom Rubashkin
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living people than the ability to group together disparate but related articles. The locus of articles is small enough that a category seems to be unnecessary at this time, especially as it has ramifications for living people. --
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jun., Yossi Rubashkin, Gutol Leiter, Milton Balkany, Yaakov Weiss, Rosie Sandman, and I'm sure that I haven't got them all - and in how many, and how many companies they own. But the Rothschilds they are not, that's for sure,
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The Rubashkin family is notable for good and for bad. There are articles on several of their members; that alone is enough for there to be a category. There are also some articles on their companies and scandals.
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Redcoat will have a WP article was a central reason I argued that the category is inappropriate in the first place. But since it is here, it needs to conform to the way categories are named.
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comes immediately to mind as he notably performed on the Royal Variety Performance in 1997 whilst still working full time as a Red coat, but in the past notable singers have had chart hits (
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per Olfactory. Original recording format may be Encyclopaedic, but Broadcast Format is fairly subjective. Nearly every film may be broadcast on HDTV at some point in it's lifespan.
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Avi states the problem succinctly. There is nothing being grouped together here. In the absence of anything being grouped together, the suggestion is that of disparagement.
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lethal" was therefore adopted to let people know "this isn't intended for killing people, but be careful with it to make sure you don't."
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and the main article and its redirect be reversed. Non-lethal is a term of doublespeak; less-than-lethal or less-lethal is more truthful
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In that case, can you explain to me, which of the Rubashkins and which of the Rubashkin owned companies Avi was referring to?
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category consists of one novelty hiphop song by a kid. unlikely to be more than one entry for many years if ever.
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Consensus to move category:Less-lethal weapons to non-lethal weapons. Article also moved. Non-lethal is the
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per nom. This seems reasonable and helpful, given the contents of the main article
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And I would love to see the lethal launchers. Bottom line, the name has issues.
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
October 18
October 20
deletion review
Knowledge:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 October 28
Dana boomer
talk
14:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Category:Less-lethal launchers
Category:Non-lethal launchers
WP:Common name
Marcus
Qwertyus
23:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
transporter erector launcher
mobile launcher vehicle
multiple rocket launcher
East of Borschov
03:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Vegaswikian
talk
05:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
M79 grenade launcher
MatthewVanitas
talk
15:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Non-lethal weapons
Less-lethal weapons
Hmains

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