2048:, famous physician and scientist, credited to understanding of higher human cognition, author of "Descartesâ Error" bases his theories âupon the standard neuroscientific conceptualization of brain function, a framework which originally derived from work on the visual system. Essentially, objects in the external environment cause patterns of activation of retinal receptive cells, and these retinal patterns are processed serially and in parallel to extract the visual aspects of the environment that we perceive. Patterns in the external world correspond with patterns of nerve cell activity in the brain, and these brain patterns are termed cognitive representations. So âthinkingâ is done by means of patterns of nerve cell activation.â If this theory is true, the performing arts of entertaining when seen by the children of entertainers become the childâs world, thus, the children of entertainers must become entertainers. On the other hand, the internal conceptualization of writing and painting cannot be seen by the children of writers and painters, thus, very few children of writers and painters follow in their parents footsteps. Again, this is a theory that needs to be researched at length.The potential research that this category represents is enormous
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v. nurture argument that, in the past, has not had a group of distinguished people, such as entertainers, to research. What I find quit remarkable is that many children of entertainers follow their parents into entertaining, but children of writers / authors and artists / fine arts usually painters do not. Entertaining, writing, & art are all considered âarts,â or âright brainâ activities, but why is it that many children of entertainers become entertainers while children of writers and painters usually do not follow their parentsâ work? Is there something about entertaining that is in the DNA, while writing & painting is not? More research needs to be done on this issue. This category is just the beginning of an important study.
2412:: 'Dedicated group-subject subcategories, such as Category:LGBT writers or Category:African American musicians, should be created only where that combination is itself recognized as a distinct and unique cultural topic in its own right. If a substantial and encyclopedic head article (not just a list) cannot be written for such a category, then the category should not be created.' I don't think that is the case for 'Jewish porn actors'. 'Jewish actors', yes, but Jewish porn actors? While I am aware that there are various subgenres of pornography which emphasise the ethnicity of the participants, I'm not aware of any such genre as '
2178:. âŚThe argument of nature v. nurture is not settled. There is a great many areas to research concerning human behavior, thought, consciousness and so on. There is a great deal that needs to be studied concerning children of military leaders, politicians, U.S. presidents, murderers and more, but this particular research needs time & for others to add their own thoughts, ideas, studies, & conclusions. This category is just the beginning. For instance look at the familiar history of
173:(or certain areas in them). But as far as I know, there are no subdivisions of the United States that have Cherokee as an official language, and few to none where a majority speak it. So a category by this name seems unnecessary. However, this category may still be useful, as it collects the three federally recognised Cherokee tribes. Perhaps it should be kept and renamed to simply
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2237:? These children of entertainers are not normal children; the Knowledge (XXG) guidelines of not categorizing children by their parents' occupations is a valid one, that is for normal children. Children of Entertainers are anything but normal. Their upbringing, their educations, their home life, their environment, their parents are anything but normal.
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writes in his ground breaking book âDescartesâ Errorâ human consciousness is altered by oneâs environment, so much so that it may change the DNA. It is a well known fact that the human body changes DNA when the environment is altered, for instance look at the humans that live closest to the
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Assuming this is a valid intersection (it isn't), it should be deleted anyway because of the inherent unverfiability. Most of the info comes from an interview with the porn star who uses a pseudonym. We should not consider anything verified if we have no way of substantiating it independently. We
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2182:: his entertainer family can be traced back to the late 1700âs in England. How is it that all of Tyrone Powerâs families are entertainers? Even his daughter, who never knew her father, is an entertainer. Is this DNA or is it family nurture? Perhaps both. Like
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2560:'s Knowledge (XXG) page. One of her categories is "Hispanic pornographic film actors." How can the category "Jewish poronographic film actors" be deleted if Knowledge (XXG) allows "Hispanic pornographic film actors"? Seems unfair.
2603:. I see absolutely no reason get rid of this page. There should be no debate, if the person claims they are of a certain religion then they are of that religion, isn't that how we define religion a choice of beliefs.
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