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sources which of the two is truer with a given individual (as the distinction is on a continuum.) (Sources for ancestrial or ethnic claims are scarce to begin, and reliable (i.e. neutral ones, ones from reputable publications, and those that consider science to support the claim) virtuall do not exist. . Self-evident claims are far more likely not to have sources, moreover, for obvious reasons. Ultimately categories like this will need to be scrapped as populating them will be impossible. In the meanwhile, I do agree too that there should be a merger of contents (but) with a new naming pattern along the lines of
1535:. There are not enough images in houses in Adelaide to justify breaking this down into non-free images. In any case, eventually all of the free images will be migrated to Commons, which will make a free/non-free image category distinction for houses in Adelaide unnecessary. (I've tried to explain general WP practices respecting images to you lately, but it's been a steep teaching curve, since you seem unfamiliar with the basics of, for example, not creating WP pages of description pages from Commons. It would be helpful if you did some research into how Knowledge (XXG) and Wikimedia Commons deal with images.) 941:. The term "disorders" is a nonsense - there is no such word in standard English in this context. a rename to "Incidents of civil disorder by country" is better, but the currently proposed name is horrible, ungrammatical, and just plain wrong. However, since several of them are already in the form "Riots and x in Foo", why not just change the lot to that (replacing the redirected word "unrest", which I note with some relief is not "Civil unrests"!) 2300:. They are essentially the same thing, and we have generally moved in WP categories from using the short forms like "Nigerian Americans" to the more descriptive "American people of Nigerian descent". I think it would be helpful to move in this same direction here. Yes, one could parse out slight differences in the two, but categories are a blunt tool to do so and I think the pre-existing category should remain. 1591:- As you should be well aware, and would be well aware if you spent less time "being right" and more time reading what I wrote, thinking about what I wrote, and answering my questions, I am quite familiar with the basics. I explained to you, at length, three times, what I was trying to do. You ignored it. I had to ask you a number of questions two or three times before you answered them. 1575:"(I've tried to explain general WP practices respecting images to you lately, but it's been a steep teaching curve, since you seem unfamiliar with the basics of, for example, not creating WP pages of description pages from Commons. It would be helpful if you did some research into how Knowledge (XXG) and Wikimedia Commons deal with images.) 2161:
descend". It could also be "Azerbaijanis of/from Iran". Meanwhile, Prof. Lotfi Asker Zadeh was born in Baku, not Tehran, and immigrated from Azerbaijan to Iran later in his life, where he studied, and then immigrated (again) to USA, where he lives to this day. He, as well as Farrah Pahlavi and her children, and others like them, are
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This is the kind of well-reasoned argument for uniformity that I wish I saw on CfD more often. As stated above, these categories usually contain articles on events that are not strictly speaking riots, so the broader name is useful and necessary. Regarding "disorders" being uncountable, I will bow to
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Just to be clear, the "pre-existing" category is "Iranian Azeris", the new one is "Iranian people of Azerbaijani descent" -- but I've come to agree with the opinion you stated: one cat is all that's necessary, and that can be Takabeg's new one, but everyone in the current cat should be moved to the
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In what way are these categories "problematic"? What is the "nationality" versus "ethnicity" dilemma here? Please do not assume that I have an agenda and am being disingenuous, these questions need to be answered because I truly do not understand why there should be two categories where one would
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The Channel Islands are not part of the United Kingdom (eg. they do not elect MPs to sit in the Commons). Although some editors occasionally add Channel Islands-related (and Bermuda-related etc) cats to "British" cats, these are removed if found, as it has been (perhaps wrongly?) accepted that the
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of Azeri and Russian. But it's disputed whether he is an Azeri (Iranian Azeri) or not. Generally Farah is accepted as an Azeri origin. So her children can be considered as Azeri descent. But it's difficult for us to prove their Azeriness (Iranian Azeri). Maybe some Azerbaijani friends will become
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another way to divide people by categorizing them, which Knowledge (XXG) seems intent on doing. When dealing with multi-ethnic states, this becomes more problematic; for example, what do Americans of Canadian ancestry have in common after some number of generations, and are the various foreign
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the new category, per the creator's rationale (and depopulate the older one to the newer one, as lack of sources dictate). Being of an ethnicity and of an ethnicity's descent (i.e. having ancestry for that ethnicity) are two distinct things, but it's almost always impossible to determine from
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Hi Takabeg, thanks for letting me know about this discussion. I'm not sure about the difference between the two categories - could you please sum them up? I personally prefer "Iranian Azeris" as that's what is naturally said by most people, instead of the longer "Iranian people of Azerbaijani
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The easiest way to answer your multiple question is to simply state that the category you have created is unusual in terms of the vast category tree that currently exists. It is not the usual way of categorizing images. If an image category is created on WP, it is typically a far more general
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and not be about the editors. You have addressed a number of remarks my way implying that I am pushing a POV, that I revert for the sake of reverting, etc. None of these is true, but even if they were, they do not help to advance the discussion. Stay focused, please.
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Ah, OK, yes—I had it back to front, but I think the new one can stay and the old one can be merged into it. We can safely say without too many issues that all Iranian Azeris are Iranian people of Azerbaijani descent, though the reverse may not be as true.
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the point. The point is all the free-use images which will have to be either recategorised to the new "images" category, or moved to commons. Are you volunteering to do either? If not, then just leave things as they are. I repeat, what's there is working
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Yes. I agree. However, that's not what I meant. You wrote "Delete/merge per nom." My poorly stated question should have been, "Merge what into what? Sorry, I don't understand." My apologies for such a poorly worded question.
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is shorthand for 'novelists from the United Kingdom' rather than 'novelists who have a British passport' (eg. Channel Island novelists). IMHO the word "British" in many Knowledge (XXG) cats is highly confusing, because a
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It made sense to me. My question was written with the understanding that I was answering the question "merge what into what?" I described where category-wise the contents of the nominated category should be merged into.
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in this sense is uncountable and refers to the situation rather than the event. "Civil disorder in Foo" doesn't seem right, either. Probably has to be "Instances of civil disorder in Foo", but that feels too clunky.
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Takabeg, the thing is the Pahlavi's (the shah family) were not of Persian origin - Reza Shah Pahlavi was mostly of Mazandarani ethnic origin, which is distinct from Persian. So you would need to classify him as
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a) Good idea. It's quite clear that you aren't paying attention to the matter at hand, only to the matters that you want to pay attention to, which are largely irrelevant to the matter at hand.
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Yes, either I or the closer will carry out the consensus of the discussion. It's not terribly accurate to say "it's working", since it was just created and already users are questioning it.
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Please keep iyour personal remarks to yourself. You may think what you like (even so, you are sadly mistaken) but remarks here and in other consensus discussions should be addressed to the
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settlers who were given Mexican citizenship (John Sutter, e.g.) become Americans of Mexican descent when the USA takes California from Mexico? Only Knowledge (XXG) debates this crap.
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the prescriptive grammarians if that is actually the case, but for what it's worth, the word "disorders" make sense to me colloquially (American English, Midwestern speaker.) —
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can protect Knowledge (XXG)'s neutrality. Because we must not support Iranian integrative nationalism, Persian nationalism, Azerbaijani separatist nationalism with
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seem to be sufficient. So far, your answers here and in the discussion on your talk page linked above seem (to me, anyway) to be something less than informative.
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and its sub-categories are very problematic. We must clarify these categories by nationality or ethnicity. We have to sovle these problems. By the way,
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Please do not make this about me, I have no dog in this fight. I have simply been undoing your changes until this discussion comes to some conclusion.
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which seems more in line with the format of other similar cats. My point is that unless Takabeg can explain the need for 2 cats, 1 is sufficient.
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In the hope that we might get some fresh input, I've posted neutral notices about this discussion on WikiProject Iran and WikiProject Azerbaijan.
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are relevant topics, not Lofti Zadeh's particular situation or the Pahlavis. Please answer those questions, in a straight-forward manner.
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A "large number of changes"? Not really. We could upmerge the single image, re-add __NOGALLERY__ to the category, and we are done.
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Thanks Saygi1. I know Lotfi's father was an Azeri and mother was a Russian. It's not difficult for us to consider Lofti is a
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failed to explain why another category was necessary, so either one or the either should be deleted and the contents merged,
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is neutral and more comprehensive. But I guess that someone cannot accept. Because for someone (especially those who adopt
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Just to be clear, if the comunity agrees that only 1 cat is necessary, I'm just as happy for the surviving cat to be
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per nom. Images can be moved to commons (or merged to an image category), and it's unlikely to be further populated.
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since you seem unfamiliar with the basics of, for example, not creating WP pages of description pages from Commons.
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wouldn't need to be merged anywhere, since the article is well-categorized. The images could be merged into
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It seems incorrect, however, to name the Channel Islands as a country when they are not. (The subcat,
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redirects to "Civil disorder", so I'm also proposing to uniform the categories with the article name.
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OK, I forgot Shomali :) But it's true that there are many Iranian citizens of Persian descent.
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created this new category today, which appears to be entirely duplicative of the existing cat
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benefit in doing this, particularly given that you provide no reason for the change beyond "
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need to get a life outside wikipedia), lets end the discussion and delete the damn thing.
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The Channel Islands are British Crown Dependencies but not part of the United Kingdom.
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for a category that is not likely to justify retention based on its small size.
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An oversight. They are not categorized within the "Riots by country" category
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etc. When the category is deleted, the only thing we can do is to remove
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Your response does not address the question. Please explain why we need
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damage neutrality of articles and are very harmful for encyclopedia.
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
August 27
August 29
deletion review
Timrollpickering
talk
11:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Category:Riots by country
Category:Civil disorders by country
Category:Riots in Albania
Category:Civil disorders in Albania
Category:Riots in Algeria
Category:Civil disorders in Algeria
Category:Riots and civil unrest in Argentina
Category:Civil disorders in Argentina
Category:Riots in Australia
Category:Civil disorders in Australia
Category:Riots in Cambodia
Category:Civil disorders in Cambodia
Category:Riots and civil unrest in Canada
Category:Civil disorders in Canada
Category:Riots and civil unrest in Chile
Category:Civil disorders in Chile
Category:Riots and civil unrest in the People's Republic of China
Category:Civil disorders in the People's Republic of China
Category:Riots in Colombia
Category:Civil disorders in Colombia
Category:Riots in Croatia
Category:Civil disorders in Croatia

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