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359:; I suppose that someone who commits suicide by jumping in front of a car wouldn't be a victim, and we shouldn't try to distinguish between people by the reasons that they were in front of the vehicles that killed them. Going from "location" to "country" is good, because the current name would allow us to mingle country and city and subnational region categories, which wouldn't be good. 1423:
tree. There is no such 'templates' equivalent parent, because worldwide there are virtually no non-navbox football club templates - most non-navbox templates are as generic as possible, such as infoboxes, or specific to an external link site. The Fußball-Bayernliga likewise to match all but one of
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tree are navboxes. Also interested to hear opinions on the name of the last nom - Usually a 'by state' suffix denotes a parent only cat, but this just holds 5 "Football in Foo" templates. Other than that, and the need to merge not rename the first, I think these could be speedy but wasn't certain.
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What if someone comes up with a non-navbox template that would belong in one of these categories? Couldn't you just leave the existing categories in place, create new categories with the proposed names as subcategories of the existing ones, and move all of the contents to the new categories?
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The Echols and Shadily Indonesia-English dictionary (the pre-eminent edition of its type) confirms my suspicions that kecamatan translates as "sub-district". Until shown otherwise, all cats and article references should use sub-district. Please do not change - even if for "consistency".
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Sorry what? This is simply removing the "sub" from "subdistrict" and turning it into "district". It has no effects on parent categories. Of cause it will have on the child categories. What is complex here? Could you please explain why C2D does not apply to
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This island is now a neighborhood in san francisco, and should follow the naming convention for such. (i originally created it with this name, but now believe the new name is more appropriate). I dont know why its not showing up as having pages.
1467:- There is no need to rename these categories just because, at present, the only contents are navboxes. Someone may create a different type of template to go in these categories eventually, and it's not like the current title is misleading. – 1427:
Personally, I wouldn't have had a problem with leaving everything at 'templates', but I value consistency and logical naming patterns, and at the moment things have been left half way through what appears to be a mass migration.
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as it affects the overal structure of the Indonesian category tree. A close examination of the tree will show how complex the issue might become. It requires quite considerable discussion at the project, not just a speedy.
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its siblings - that sibling has a timeline and 20 navboxes. The by state one has no comparable siblings or parents, I included because it also was pure navboxes and there has been a trend to rename such categories lately.
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could be kept for that reason. For individual clubs and leagues it would be creating an unnecessary layer of categorization which in virtually all cases would never get used. --
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Note two changes: "Historical" to "Historic" and "Site" to "site". First off, "site" isn't a proper noun; we shouldn't capitalise it here. Secondly, the article is
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ure Island, California. wondered if i would ever make a silly mistake like that. ive put pages in this misnamed category, so when its changed, they go with it.
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choice of word, as it carries no connotation as to whether the deceased was a victim or in any way at fault, and all the country sub-cats use "deaths". –
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Then would you prefer the existing navigational boxes cats were moved back to templates categories, or just leave things arbitrarily split? --
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Also, we should make this clearly a deaths category. The current name does not make it clear that these are deaths categories.
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Of course this should all be changed so it is consistent. Article and Category space should use the same nomenclature.
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per nom. We clearly hold that categories should be disambiguated at least as much as the corresponding articles are.
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C2D: should match article name, and with 2 musicians of that name it is clear disambiguation is needed. --
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to match title of parent article, which should always be the case, wherever possible.
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i get it, i misspelled the category name! so it at least needs to be changed to Trea
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per my second sentence in the road accident victims CFD.
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Knowledge:Categories for discussion
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Category:Accidental deaths by location
Category:Accidental deaths by country
Category:Accidental deaths by country
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Marco
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