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1137:, the related template could be kept, deleted or userfied. If the template gets deleted, the category could indeed be speedied. If the template is kept or userfied, I think the category should still be deleted as it contains only 1 user. And that number isn't expected to go up as CORS once enabled will prevent any convenient way of loading Wikiplus. —
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Muslims, members of the Muslim umma; or as Turks, members of a language group spread over a vast area of Central Asia; or as Persians (the founder of Azerbaijani literature, Mirza Fath’ Ali Akhundzadä, described himself as ‘almost Persian’). ‘Azerbaijani identity remained fluid
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943:-- Millennium categories are rarely warranted. If the top periodic category is centuries, there will be few cases where there would even be 30 subcategories (back to 800 BC), In a very few cases, we might go back another 20 centuries, but 50 subcats in a container is not too many.
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183:. English is a widely used language in Malta and I expect there are Maltese people who write in English or mainly so. I doubt there will be many writers in that language elsewhere. We should not merge writers in one language with those in another.
1976:) The IP's operator, who I presume is the same as whoever operates ""Multituberculata", is doing this in all likelihood to create more audience/i.e. room in order to press such categories as "legitimate". -
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