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that made passing references to this, merely as an example to how films can spawn "religious" groups and nothing more. There was then a university article that merely paraphrased the content of one of these books. There were then two news articles. The first, from the Sydney Morning Herald, was merely an interview by the author of that aforementioned university article. The only real details about the Matrixism that it mentioned were that the religion "claims 300 adherents" (no justification was given for this claim). The second news article, from the Scotsman's light-hearted "living" section was written by a guest author and again gave no more than a passing description of a religion that "now claims to have 500 genuine follows". Note the use of the word "claims" again and the fact that this was not a news article but a magazine extract. So I don't believe that any of those references are non-trivial and, even if they were, the only content that we could get from them about Matrixism would be "

2505:: At the moment, there's probably a headcount that indicates that this may not survive. If the DRV closer can bother to look at the weight of arguments combined with what DRV actually exists for, they'll notice that this article has only been through one full AfD (which resulted in a merge over a year ago, which is an editorial decision), and nearly two dozen improper speedy deletions. Furthermore, the most recent AfD was closed by the same person who initiated it. Furthermore, there are plenty of endorse arguments that, when read closely, could very well aid in the arguments to overturn the argument, such as needing "accurate content, verified by sources that have done their fact checking" (which would include the multiple mainstream media mentions). Beyond that, there's still significant discussion as to what constitutes enough sources for this article anyway, which, truly, is beyond the mission of DRV. 512:. Page exclusively promotes a company, product, group, or service without realistic encyclopedic rewrite." If this isn't a clear explanation, I apologize, but I try to provide clear rationale whenever I delete something. I'd be glad to userfy it somewhere. The person who originally created the page hasn't edited in a month, but I can move it there, or to your userspace if you'd like to take on the job, Aquatics. Realistically, it's going to need a bottom-up complete rewrite, but if you're volunteering, let me know. - 1331:) and expanded by others in userspace and eventually moved to article space once it was sufficiently dealt with concerning prior issues. Of course, the AfD closes within a few days anyway. So here we are - the pseudo(?)-religion has been noted as an example of alternative/net-based religions in media on three continents as well as a few books, and notability is thus established through said reliable sources. Much of the discussion revolved around the 1939:

articles because it was published by a reputable source. The kind of double-thinking, double-checking folks are doing for this article is not consistent because people feel like they're getting hoaxed, but the lack of fact checking here in the Scotsman link and others is of similar magnitude to the kind that we let pass quite fine into biographies of living persons pretty much constantly. --

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and the creation of an article for ShareASale was on my to-do list (can be verified by going the edit log of my userpage where it clearly shows that I added it to my to-do list long before the article was actually created). Any accusation that I meet the criteria for COI in this matter in very far fetched. I made clear what my relationship with the company is and what it is not.

1381:. None of the reliable sources found actually look into the so-called "religion" - they just repeat what's found on the anonymous Web site. Until and unless we have some reliable sources which amount to more than "there's this Web site on the Internet called Matrixism," there's nothing we can reliably or verifiably say about it. 1702:. None of the reliable sources found actually look into the so-called "religion" - they just repeat what's found on the anonymous Web site. Until and unless we have some reliable sources which amount to more than "there's this Web site on the Internet called Matrixism," there's nothing we can reliably or verifiably say about it. 1570:- of the sources I could get to from a Google cache of the article, I saw only one-sentence comments about this. Can't read the books or anything else, but really, I think the fact that all of the arguments over all these different AFDs, DRVs and everything else have set consensus: right now, this is not notable. 904:

You just discovered one of the problems of the affiliate marketing industry. Just look at the coverage of Google's purchase of Doubleclick. Performics was mentioned as search engine marketing company, but they are a lot more. They are also one of the largest affiliate networks out there and do search

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opened and closed this AFD discussion. The role of DRV is to determine if process has been followed; it has not. I hope that this evidence being presented very late does not mean that it is irrelevant (apologies - I've been on Wikibreak), and I hope the DRV closer takes note of the fact few of the

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FCYTravis, your analysis of the independent blog article by Phil Johnson is what is consider to be "independent research" and is not allowed according to Knowledge (XXG) policy. Also you understate or misrepresent the amount of research he has done. According to Knowledge (XXG) Policy the article is

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Jeff, there are two forms of legitimate deletion. The form where we slavishly follow every step of process until we have wearied our bones with yping, and the form which looks at an article that remains stubbornly free of non-trivial independent sources after many, many attempts at re-creations and

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is the goal and two articles with the subject somewhere in the body wins you enough points for an article. It's about our central goal, providing reliable and therefore accurate content, verified by sources that have done their fact-checking. If there's nothing we can say and back up apart from the

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My point that WP:NOT#IINFO is irrelevant stands. WP:NOT#IINFO is a specific list of things that Knowledge (XXG) articles should not be, and this article was not on the list. On the second point, non-notability is a ground for deletion when merger or refactoring is not possible. In this case, it was

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is irrelevant. Who made it up is irrelevant. How many adherents it has, if any, is irrelevant. Call it a mere website if you want. The fact is that this website has been noted and described by writers independent of the website, and details about it have been published in reliable sources. Thus not

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to obtain some semblance of a consensus, there appears to be something notable here anyhow. The suggestion to "advise" conflicted editors to not participate in AfD discussion is complete and utter nonsense. Knowledge (XXG) is built through consensus, and consensus is achieved through discussion.

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so more people can see, and -- just possibly -- edited while on AfD to respectable status. The possibility of editing is one reason for letting articles run their full time at AfD. (And it does happen:each day that several of the articles up at AfD do get re-edited adequately--there are a number of

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2. COI accusations were not warranted, which was also established in the AfD debate. The article was created by a user who meets the COI criteria. I did inform the user of this and strongle discouraged him to continue to make edits on the article. Since I contributed in the past to the same subject

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mention) this falls into the "notable hoax" category; possibly the article should be made clearer that it seems unlikely that this is a genuine religion, but the fact that it's being discussed is, I think, enough to warrant a keep, and certainly didn't warrant a speedy delete. In addition, I don't

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Since others have made AFD-type arguments above even though this is DRV, I'll now make an AFD argument too. We describe things on Knowledge (XXG) the way they're described in reliable sources. The best way to present the information on Matrixism on Knowledge (XXG) would be in the same context it's

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an article is well referenced it shouldn't be deleted? Well let's make this clear: the article was not well referenced. I made my reasoning for this very clear in the AFD but I will do so again here for those who didn't read it or contribute to it. In the references, there were two or three books

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Agreed. Additionally, the standards this one's being held to are silly. We allow stuff in BLP just because newspapers (re)published some author's official bio as part of a feature on an author or her/his book. It's not like papers actually generally fact check that stuff, but it makes it into our

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Then view the article's subject as a noted website describing a dubious religion, instead of a dubious religion described by an unreliable website. And re-word the article accordingly, or better yet, refactor to an article whose subject is the same as the subject of the listed sources, which is

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of the (albeit unfortunately-hosted) Geocities site that's generally regarded as the "official" site of said "religion," thus meeting WP:RS/WP:V but still being dismissed as a useful source elsewhere. So here we sit - I do request that someone undelete the history of the most recently deleted

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and believe that he is a sockpuppet by looking at his contribution history which consists only of AfD debate comments, Mass Replace "Celtic" to "Celt" in numerous articles, Disambiguate "Celtic" to "Celtic xxxx", Disambiguate "John Warren" to "John Warren xxxx", Disambiguate "Fredericksburg to

825:"Fredericksburg xxxx" and Disambiguate "Cimmeria" to "Cimmeria xxxx" plus a few minor edits, which include the rv of spam. This was pretty much all what this user contributed to Knowledge (XXG) during the last 15 months. The comments made in the debate were as vague as the statements made by 1538:

As held up in many AfDs and DRVs. A Geocities-hosted internet gag religion, which even by its own self-reported numbers has only a few hundred adherents. Even if we blindly assume their number is true, it's well below any number of small-town churches all over the world. Bottom line:

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should have linked there; that part of the "always" instruction was not followed before, I suppose. I do not know that the "always" is necessary, or what technical purpose the Links page serves for determining orphans, so it could be that the "always" note is incorrect. --

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believe the most recent AfD nomination was valid as it gave no reason other than "Needs community approval". The article in its final version was better sourced (6 legitimate sources, not including the geocities page) than probably 90% of articles of similar length

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That's not... entirely accurate. It was speedily deleted because it was an advertisement. The deletion decision had nothing to do with sources, and I'm not sure where you got that idea. The deletion rationale I provided was, I assumed, rather clear:

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the group's existence, doctrine, membership and so forth. Everything we've seen related to this so-called religion all comes back to a single Web site hosted on Geocities. Absent that site, there is nothing to show that this thing actually exists.

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failure whose fans have thus far failed to astroturf it to the giddy heights of a Knowledge (XXG) article. We don't need it. We have better things to do than help people who lack the wit even to break out of Geocities. Time Cube this is not.

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Did you also see the video where the CEO of the company received the award from the largest tradeshow of the industry where the company belongs to? Also the references to the leading print publication of the industy. The industry,

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On your second point, no one has denied (except for Sr13, and he's wrong) that there are things that can be reported on Knowledge (XXG) about this website that pass WP:V and WP:NOR. The real dispute is over whether Matrixism is

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Looks to have been an A7, an article on a website that did not establish the notability of its subject. It was also written as a first-person personal essay, and was nothing even remotely close to an encyclopedia article. I

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conflicted editors not to edit the article, and not to participate in the AfD discussion. If they want to make suggestions, I encourage them to use the relevant talk page and disclose their connections to the subject.

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by Sam Jordison. This is a reference book on cults and new religious movements. It treats Matrixism equally alongside Kaballah, Scientology and Freemasonry. Matrixism is also discussed at length in Phil Johnson's blog

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Are you reading the "claims" as a loaded, stressed word used in the context of disbelief? Because for me to read it that way I'd really need it italicized in the Scotsman mention. What happened to assuming good faith?

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The latest version of the article is not available anymore, unfortunately. It was already partially re-edited and I also encouraged people that were involved in the discussion to go over it and make changes too.

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a reliable source and there is not even any evidence that this website is in anyway official. So please, endorse this deletion. We don't need another discussion at AFD and we certainly don't need this article.

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presented in those sources. The sources on Matrixism feature it as one of many "minor religions." The phenomenon described in the sources is that of these "religions" in general. So, Matrixism does not pass

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engine marketing for their clients as well (as most affiliate networks do). Nobody of the big press even mentioned that. Its a niche and that alone does not make it irrelevant or not noteworthy. --

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is met. I asked him also to clarify his vague statement "looks like an advertisement to me". I also recommended that he might want to change any parts of the article that are "advertisement".

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Let's not start using quorum at DRV. If nobody but the nominator is interested in overturning, as judged by the lack of response, there's obviously not a consensus to overturn anything.

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if they insist; it'll get AFDed easy due to the blatantly obvious notability/verifiability issues. Its not a big deal if process has to be gone through; the result will be the same. —

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This isn't the latter kind, because this isn't "stubbornly free" of anything, including sources. "Applying clue," this probably should have never been deleted in the first place. --

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as website with no assertion of notability. Indeed, a majority of the article is an essay about why this individual created this site, and is devoid of any content in terms of

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adheres to it, we don't have any interviews with purported believers and we have no clue where the Web site came from. It's completely possible that the whole thing was

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says "time to move on". This is the latter kind. Knowledge (XXG) is not a bureaucracy, if it ever becomes one I think most of us will leave. Applying Clue, this is a

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adheres to it, we don't have any interviews with purported believers and we have no clue where the Web site came from. It's completely possible that the whole thing was

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outside "the industry" has given non-trivial coverage to them? Industry association awards etc. tend not to be that impressive, where are the broader references? --

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version so people can see what we're working with, and take it from there, but, given that it meets all our relevant standards, we should do the right thing and

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Sigh, the saga never ends. This page has been speedied out of process nearly two dozen times at this point, erroneously endorsed here against proper procedure

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is a reliable and citable source as defined by Knowledge (XXG) policy. The arguments for deletion given above have been made without considering these facts.

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as being about all the minor religions discussed by the academics that were mentioned in the AFD, of which Matrixism is only one. Deletion is not called for.

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More eyes on this certainly can't hurt and there seems to be enough reason to do so. A little more digging might turn up something under WP:CORP. Cheers,

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I'd hardly call a brief mention of one paragraph in a throwaway "lifestyle" section of the paper (Scotsman or NYTimes or otherwise) in the spirit of

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says "This "(disambiguation)" redirect page should always be created for the Knowledge (XXG):Links to (disambiguation) pages listing." Link to the

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I intended those remarks as a sign of respect for a Knowledge (XXG) veteran. But you're right, sarcasm wasn't appropriate. Sorry. I've struck 'em.

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actual independent looks at this putative "religion" and we cannot possibly take an anonymous freely-hosted Web site at its word. There are

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about this, um, religion (or whatever it should be called), so it is not clear to me that the outcome of the AfD will be to delete. So

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Previously, the article was deleted because there were no third-party independent reviews. After the article was deleted, I located

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an indiscriminate collection of information. Additionally, some people dissent with your assertion that V and NOR are met.

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With only one source cited I'd look for a userspace workup first, and we can userfy the nuked version if that will help.

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activities described in nomination alone merit to keep these deleted. Again, reliable sourceS influence my decision here

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original research.) It's also irrelevant whether the Matrixism website was literally "made up in school one day," since

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documentation of anything related to the so-called religion. By contrast, new religious movement articles such as

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This deletionism is really getting to me. Hell if you have to, userfy it or something. Has anyone mentioned the

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existence of a website and what this website claims about itself, we can't write an encyclopaedia article. --

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This is untrue. There were a number of verifiable sources that demonstrated the subject's notability. --

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did not provide much arguments during the discussion. I provided multiple references that shows that

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Can you clarify? The AFD was open for 7 days, 2 more than letting it run it's full time at AFD. --

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participants above will revisit this discussion at this late date (missing the pretty important

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Am I the only person who absolutely cannot understand what Pan Dan and anony said here?

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reliable and its findings are independent of your (unreliable, unpublished) analysis.

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AFD voters who can't think of a reason to delete that's actually based in policy.

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached

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We don't know who is behind this so-called religion, we don't know if anyone

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Educate me. Why does WP:NFT apply here, given that WP:V and WP:NOR are met?

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Who are you really, and what have done with the real, non-novice Radiant?

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people ever saw this, and that only if you count the closing admin. -

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that make more than a one-off passing mention of this "religion."

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a reference - it had 2 media and 3 print journal references).

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Was not in violation, still confused as to why it was deleted

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Riding the Rollercoaster: How the Risen Christ Empowers Life

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Don't tell me you didn't know that. You must also know that

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COI accusations, Notability was established, Sockpuppetry

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There is no other legitimate result other than to relist

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requires non-trivial coverage from multiple independent

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Clifford & Johnson Strand 1998. Therefore the blog

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yet? It seems pretty attributable and notable to me. --

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Matrixism#Take 2

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2366:Enough notability is established by the version at 1091:as suggested above, the more eyeballs the better. 2256:interviews with any purported believers. There is 1444:, profound lack of independent critical sources. 1115:; a clearer consensus would be nice in this case. 1300:Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review/Log/2007 March 19 665:– Deletion overturned; relisted for new input. – 2403:column, referenced from that Geocities website? 791:Knowledge (XXG):Articles_for_deletion/Shareasale 2231:-- My sentiment on the article itself is still 2051:WP:NOT#IINFO is abused as a catchall by novice 1692: 1276:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Matrixism 2900:. Reasonable in terpretation of the debate. 2146:Clifford & Johnson Victor Books 2003 and 1058:Imagine what would happen to debates such as 966:editors who will fo it if it seems feasible.) 799:1. Notability was clearly established in the 8: 2737:Knowledge (XXG):Disambiguation#Generic topic 1923:that are not verifiable in 3rd party sources 1062:if we actually followed such a suggestion. 578:. I still say to just recreate it, though. - 2649:The following is an archived debate of the 1499:. The AFD was closed early on the basis of 1178:The following is an archived debate of the 679:The following is an archived debate of the 466:Endorse deletion, but feel free to recreate 352:The following is an archived debate of the 279:and I would have deleted it as same also.-- 88:The following is an archived debate of the 2604: 1149: 654: 508:General criteria, subsection 11 - Blatant 327: 63: 1686:Endorse deletion pending confirmation of 1543:not notable even using its own numbers. 2526:. How many people are stating here that 2955:The above is an archived debate of the 2800:is a generic topic disambiguation page. 2589:The above is an archived debate of the 1134:The above is an archived debate of the 639:The above is an archived debate of the 312:The above is an archived debate of the 2370:that it should go through a full AfD. 2039:(edit conflict) On your first point, 7: 1612:deletion as a whole was legitimate. 2772:" The following example is given: " 2334: 2480:. Sometimes people forget it, but 2342: 2215:The article has been recreated at 28: 2350: 2337: 2166:This is a stupid perversion of a 2144:Jesus and the gods of the New Age 2133:Matrixism is covered in depth in 2774:For example, the specific topic 1519:the primary notability criterion 1317:. A new version was started by 796:Arguments against the decision. 2570: 2568: 2566: 2193: 2188: 2168:religion I happen to believe in 1722:" that is unverifiable, as per 1393:. Nothing can be found that is 1037: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review 2810:could of course be recreated. 820:4. I question the comments by 1: 1497:Overturn and continue the AFD 295:- quite obvious speedy A7. - 1780: 1011:to establish consensus, and 2548: 2545: 2229:Overturn and relist for AFD 1773:until and unless there are 2982: 2846:per reasons by WJBscribe. 1691:- FCYTravis's argument of 2524:Strongly endorse deletion 1700:made up in school one day 1379:made up in school one day 2962:Please do not modify it. 2791:R to disambiguation page 2656:Please do not modify it. 2596:Please do not modify it. 2580:14:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC) 2556:14:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC) 2519:12:25, 11 May 2007 (UTC) 2498:00:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC) 2473:17:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC) 2444:. 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