2014:. I can fully understand the view that we have too many bios in this field, and I would even be willing to advocate that our criteria for them ought to be stricter. But I wouldn't close according to my personal view here, because our job as closing admins is to interpret and apply policy according to consensus, not to change the interpretation to the way we would rather have it. If we do not like the way consensus agrees to interpret sufficiency of sources, we should argue accordingly in the AfD. People will either accept our argument or not, but an AfD close is not the place to use our own view of the guidelines.
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1147:. Why Biruitorul consider this publication obscure? Can you tell us, Biruitorul, your reason to disqualify such big publications and institutions and specialist? Iām a big fan in a big Country. IonuÅ£ Caragea is an appreciated author by specialist and publications and itās my right and my freedom to make an article. I think Biruitorul try to disgrace this author because he donāt want to recognize the evolution of this author in the last year. Thank you very much, please check and verify the authenticity of my affirmations. Thank you. --
2122:. This was very close to the limits of the closer's discretion, but still within them. As the closing statement accurately indicates, the sourcing advanced in support of the article was not substantial enough -- mostly trivial pieces on news aggregation sites. The article subject is a nonnotable porn performer whose repentance was covered in a local newspaper and, briefly, in a single magazine -- and has since returned, without much notice, to her porn career (apparently even before the Christianity Today piece even ran).
1845:. Convert the close to a fresh !vote, and give it another week. Spartaz may be right in his opinion, but this was too close (to no consensus). The final consensus is a little too rough. No consensus does not default to delete, and especially not for non-private persons. AfD participants should individually consider privacy and ethical concerns, not the closer alone. I think Spartaz was saying that there is a complete lack of independent secondary source material that addresses the subject directly. Consider
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not literary magazines; they are just local newspapers in
Romania. We speak here about a Canadian writer who live is Canada. He is notable in Canada, Germany, he have international notoriety in literary magazines. We speak about facts, diploma, documents, awards, not about fiction stories and suppositions. We must respect Knowledge (XXG) rules; we must prove with facts, not with the suppositions like you. I advise you to learn rules and politics of Knowledge (XXG).
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this: he's got a personal position on the inclusionist/deletionist spectrum. There's an extent to which it'll influence his analysis of the arguments raised in the AfD. I think it's possible for you, in perfectly good faith, to believe that
Michael Q. Schmidt and Colonel Warden had the best arguments in the AfD but for Spartaz, in perfectly good faith, to think Tarc and Snottywong were right. That's why DRVs involving these users end without consensus.
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course." "Merge" mentioned in the close was not discussed in that AfD and no one posted the website megados.com in the AfD, so it does not justify the close or justify maintaining the aricle at DRV. The AfD did not have a consensus that topic has not been "noticed" to a significant degree by independent sources and the close should be overturned based on both
Knowledge (XXG):Notability and Knowledge (XXG):What Knowledge (XXG) is not. --
1874:. I'm not sure how the closer overlooked those, but I don't need to speculate to say that the close was unequivocally incorrect. In fact, on the basis of those two sources alone, a closer would have been justified in closing a 6 keeps to 10 deletes nose-count vote as a keep. In the face of the multiple RS coverage, there is no way closing a 10 to 6 keep consensus as delete was reasonable.
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of those editors showed up in that AfD to agree with him and vote the same way. In my opinion, this happens rather too often. Article rescue when it's appropriate is a worthy thing, but good judgment isn't always apparent in what's to be kept and what's to be deleted. None of this is to say that
Michael Q. Schmidt is the most egregious of these users, because he isn't.
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for why the debate was closed as delete. Because the rationale was clear, it is easy for DRV participants to scrutinise it for error. Closing statements like this at least (a) give due respect to the AfD participants by properly explaining the decision reached; and (b) promote transparent decision-making that benefits DRV. The more of this the better.--
1066:. As you can see by clicking their names, all three happen to be single-purpose accounts determined to get Caragea an article. Does he really have that many admirers who disinterestedly set up Knowledge (XXG) accounts for the sole purpose of ensuring his presence here? Perhaps, but more likely, they're the friends and family of a very minor poet who
639:. Now Ionuţ Caragea's article have good sources, criticism, important references in big and international publications and I think he deserve to be in Knowledge (XXG). I selected for you the best sources, the best references and I demand you, with all my sympathy, to recreate this page. Thank you very much and I wish you all my best from Canada.
1346:"In fact, I have more contributions than you on the French Knowledge (XXG), like anonymous" - sorry, but the only way to prove you're not a single-purpose account is by having a registered account right here on English Knowledge (XXG). Right now, you're the third in a highly suspect chain of single-purpose accounts who have come to en.wiki
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be a supervote rather than a summary of the consensus reached by editors. When decisions are so labored and need to resort to discarding votes one way or the other, more admins need to be ready to acknowledge that no consensus has been reached in such cases rather than trying to impose personal views on the subject and onto the community.
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article then you would have discussed the close with me first as you are already well aware this is an expectation and might reasonably have expected me to userfy this. You chose not to do this, so I can only assume that your intention was to try and discomfort me by causing trouble over a page I had deleted. Very poor show.
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action and now is very significant. The author is young and is a rising star. In the last year this author published more than 9 books, and he was appreciated by numerous specialists and critics. For me is very important to respect the rules and politics and, for this reason, Iām here with this request. Thank you Sir.--
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In conclusion, nothing from your declaration is true. You came with suppositions, you disgrace big magazines and specialists, you disgrace the
Diaspora and Canada and you disgrace me with yours remarks. You must be more respectfully, you must respect rules and politics and you must be honest with us.
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The proximity of this nomination to the deletion today of a number of your pages that I listed at AFD stretches the the claim that this was a disinterested good faith nomination because you were just interested in the page well beyond breaking point. If you were serious about being interested in the
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AFD result end in either the article being kept (in one way or other) or deleted. They aren't set in stone never ever let anything else happen to this article. Normal editing and editing decision then apply, this would include merges or "merges" where no content is actually moved. The redirect being
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Because is the first time for me when I try to create this page. The page was deleted few moths ago, but is not my contribution. Iām a big fan of this author and I want to create this page, even my language is bad. I need your help, and this is the reason to be here. The big difference between last
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Obviously this is going to get overturned and I can't argue too much with that outcome. But I do want to say that one of the reasons this DRV is able to come to a clear outcome - with inclusionists and deletionists reaching rare common ground - is that the closing admin gave such a clear rationale
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I'm not completely innocent myself, and neither is anyone who's active at DRV; we all have our own places on the inclusionist/deletionist spectrum. There are users I tend to agree with and users I tend to disagree with. Spartaz is like any closer with enough experience to deal with a matter like
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about Caragea. This doesn't just happen without some sort of coordination. And it reeks of a self-promotion campaign by a man who is, yes, based on the paucity of independent and reliable sources on him, a minor and obscure literary figure, desperately enlisting friends and family in order to give
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As I posted on your talk page, I reverted the redirect by another user because it went against the AfD consensus close made. I posted this request at DRV because it is needed, it is the correct course of action, and you noted on your talk page "if you disagree, you are free to take it to WP:DRV of
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who appreciates Ionut Caragea. Specialists with pages on Knowledge (XXG). You want to tell us that you are more qualified then the others to say minor, obscure etc? You must respect the rules of Knowledge (XXG), you must respect the sources. That it! My dear friends, the international publication
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to no consensus on this one. It's one of those annoying AfDs which is tricky to read and interpret, but however hard I try I can't find a consensus to delete. Both sides have arguments based solidly in policy and guidelines, and numerically the keeps are way ahead. True, there are some weak keep
1360:"Some specialist from the list has notoriety in French wikipedia also. In Romanian Knowledge (XXG) also" - all but two of the linked individuals have articles just on ro.wiki, which as I've said, has notability standards rather more lax than our own, and is often a repository for self-promoters.
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One more thing. When you speak about āobscure exile newspapersā, you made a xenophobic declaration. Canda is not the Exile of this writer. This writer is not condemned, is not quilted for something. He is an emigrant. He is a Canadian citizen and Romanian citizen also. We talk about Diaspora and
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If you are deeply suspicious, is your problem. In fact, I have more contributions than you on the French Knowledge (XXG), like anonymous. Iām not obligated to justify my activity, but here, in this request, I want to deal with people, I respect the others, and for this reason I chose to make an
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in this point. I donĀ“t wanna repeat all arguments, but the main argument is she was really popular, has numerous articles in non-porn media, has made a lot of Cover shootings and so on. Even that she quitted the porn business and converted to Christianity and tries to make
1817:- I do not think there was a consensus to delete this article. That said, I must protest very strongly the recent trend of denigrating all closing rationales you disagree with as a "supervote" and therefore invalid. It seems to me to be a sneaky way of turning AfD into a
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Hello my dear friends. How are you? I hope, very well. With all my respect, I propose you to recover the page of the Canadian writer Ionuţ Caragea (Romanian by origin and living in Quebec). The admin who deleted the page don't talk with me, I have now answer from
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1570:. I think the admin made a big mistake in deleting this page, because the arguments were clearly on the Keep-side (also in numbers: 10 users for Keep, 6 for Delete). This was the 3rd nomination, before she was notable enough for en.wiki. She clearly passes
1343:"I advise you to learn rules and politics of Knowledge (XXG)" - over the course of four and a half years and nearly 70,000 edits, I've done that, and I've become quite adept at identifying self-promotion of the ilk you are trying to foist onto this project.
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another editor who did just that. I don't really know what game is being played here, or what the real purpose of this DRV is, but it seems to me to be a waste of time. Entertainment sites listed at Google News are already discussing the upcoming
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the AfD completely. Start a fresh AfD with different participants. A RFC/U will be completely useless, so consider filing an Arbcom case with a view to forcing certain users to change their behaviour at AfD because they will not do so
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by gradually whittling away the closing admin's discretion to judge the !votes in light of policy. I also find the constant cries of "Closer please note, I disagree with this delete !vote therefore disregard it" to be pathetic crap.
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1964:- Why are we chasing tail here 5 months later? The close cites the weak keep opinions, giving them less weight than the policy/guideline-based deletes. Well within admin discretion, despite the loud protests above.
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this DRV; the AFD could not have been closed as delete, and the proper venue to discuss amending keep to merge, redirect, or what-not is the article talk page.
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and don't call me a xenophobe. (Which is, in any case, absurd: xenophobia is a fear of foreigners; being a Romanian, I cannot, and do not, fear my own people.)
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1380:. To admins reading this: yes, Romania produces a lot of would-be writers desperate for publicity, and many, including Caragea, crave a spot on en.wiki.
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the candidate. Ionut Caragea passed this commission. Paying dues is not the condition to be member; the only condition is the notoriety.
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for the purpose of uploading an article on some unknown "poet".
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account with my name. Keep your suppositions for you, please!
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Diploma of Excellence accorded by Romanian National Patrimony
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1247:āPreceding
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298:S Marshall
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