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Ian Erix and when I recently joined Knowledge (XXG) to build him a page I saw that it had once been deleted so before I went forward I wanted to make sure it was okay to write something new. I read most of the deletion comments and there is a lot of new information since this article was deleted. Ian Erix was signed to a major record label IDMG Scandinavia (Island Def Jam) and his music video is currently in the YouTube Top 100 chart for the week of June 5th. Also, his music video charted at #7 on the VEVO World Music Charts and he was play listed nationally on MTV and on radio stations in many countries + his music video has been viewed more than 5 million times on YouTube so far. I think all this and the other stuff about his career should qualify him more than enough to have an article. Can you please give me the permission to write something fair and balanced without it getting deleted? Thank you
270:] . Also, I researched the reference article that the other user mentioned above and that article is talking about him but because the translation issues that occurred when the Portuguese media reported on this it is not as clear as it should be but Ian Erix appeared on stage in Rio De Janeiro with David Guetta on New Years Eve. There are pictures and other stories online if you type in Ian Erix reveillon. He was an official celebrity presenter and gave an award to Brazil for making the best New Years Eve Party in the World. He performed on stage that night in front of millions and one line of his speech from that night has been quoted in many articles and was used as part of a front page story on all Brazilian newspapers and many other newspapers and publications around Latin America. Here is a more clear article about it in English. 374:] he also meets requirement #2 that says "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart". Plus I think it also should help that he is mentioned in hundreds of credible newspaper articles in relation to his appearance as a celebrity musical ambassador for the world travel guild in Brazil on New Years Eve(Check Google for Ian Erix Reveillon and you will see many newspapers and magazines articles about it) He is pictured here at left on the stage in front of 2.5 million people in Copacabana Beach, Brazil giving the award to the city and to Brazil's Secretary of Tourism and he is talked about in the article as well. 363:
are not being fair really because maybe you don't know Ian Erix and think he isn't notable but to young people like me and there are a LOT of us he is VERY notable and I read some of the guidelines for musicians on Knowledge (XXG) and it says that he meets a lot of the criteria to be included here without a problem. First of all, he has been play listed on major radio stations around the world. One example in the USA is 106.7 KROQ which is one of the biggest Modern Rock stations in Los Angeles. They have been playing his new song and here is a link to it on their official website
376:] Also, the user above seems to make fun of the YouTube and VEVO Charts but these charts are respected in the music industry and they are national and international charts that represent the most popular videos and artists in today's pop culture. That is a true fact and I think that the fact that Ian Erix has been at the top of both the YouTube and VEVO charts, at #1 on YouTube in some countries and Top 10 worldwide, that in itself should absolutely be significant enough to be taken into consideration too. 400:
rather than being shown in rotation on the station. I can't easily evaluate the allmusic bio, the same bio appears elsewhere so it's not that clear if it's promotional puff or has more substance. The article on the Brazilian award seems similar to the previous English link and is just a passing mention, and doesn't really amount to much. In my experience VEVO and YouTube tend not to be considered too compelling here, and number of views there aren't part of the
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outside of Knowledge (XXG) have not written enough about Ian Erix, then there's not enough to summarize within Knowledge (XXG). Now, the writings outside of Knowledge (XXG) that are used within Knowledge (XXG) are not from fan sites or material that has a connection to Ian Erix (his website, public relations writings, etc.). There must be enough coverage in
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have to be met before there will be a Ian Erix article in Knowledge (XXG), Wikipedians will need to be convinced that having an article on Ian Erix won't bring a flood of Ian Erix fans to Knowledge (XXG) to violate Knowledge (XXG)'s processes. If you want, you can develop a draft article in your user
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Urbanturn300 - I linked some of the above abbreviations so you can follow up on them. The short answer is that Knowledge (XXG) is a publication that merely conveys information in the form of text. That text merely is a summary of what others have already written outside of Knowledge (XXG). If other's
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To try and address a few of your points here. The abbreviations generally are linked to articles which explain them. Material being referenced to third party sources is essential, since that is the very essence of the encyclopedia, if we can't reference the material, then it can't be here. As such it
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Hello. I would like to kindly ask community permission and help for restoring an article. I've noticed that the deletion was made a long while ago back in February 2011 and today I reached out to the closer of the deletion and I was advised to post here. The article is about a recording artist called
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of Ian Erix haven't written enough text about these accomplishments, then Knowledge (XXG) doesn't have enough material to work with to summarize that external text into a Knowledge (XXG) article. In other words, it's not a matter of Ian Erix's success, it's a matter of third parties not connected to
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To be perfectly honest I am new to Knowledge (XXG) and I don't understand most of the abbreviations listed above and I didn't know that I had to put all kinds of links here to prove my case but I will put some now since I guess I should. It sounds to me like you guys above that said to endorse close
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nationally". That would mean they are regularly playing the single several times throughout a day. KROQ as you say isn't a national station so the "nationally" part can't be met. The MTV stuff shows very low view counts (for me at least) and seems to be "MTV Sessions" for showcasing new "talent",
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per above. Single purpose accounts, and very dubious notability. Original decision was correct, the previous DRV discussion was correct, and I do not think that the community has made a grievous mistake twice. Knowledge (XXG) does not exist for Mr. Erix to promote himself or his work, and the
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Ian Erix caring enough to make the editorial decision to write about him and his life in their publication. While there are plenty of people who enjoy Ian Erix's success, no one cares enough to write about it. Knowledge (XXG) and Ian Erix have no control over what
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really doesn't matter it people here don't know him, nor does it matter that you believe a lot of people think he's notable, what does matter is the third party coverage in reliable sources. The links to MTV or KROQ as far as I can see don't show him being in "
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I didn't know that I was supposed to put references here but if you want something to prove he is notable then here are links to him in the official YouTube Top 100 Chart. His video is number #90 amongst all major label stars
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to try to get a consensus to keep the Ian Erix article in Knowledge (XXG). That's not a good thing as it produces reactions that are hostile to allowing an article on Ian Erix within Knowledge (XXG). So now, not only does
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doesn't contribute anything to notability. There's not even anything here showing it's the same guy. I remember the hassling over the original awful article, and there's no point in wasting time going through that again.
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he does meet several of the guidelines. # 11 says "Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network." Those links above prove that. Also, according to All Music Guide
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of the subject" to determine whether there should be a stand alone article on a given topic. On top of that, Ian Erix fan(s) came to Knowledge (XXG) before you and posted at the
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guidelines. I'm not saying he doesn't meet the notability guidelines, merely that what's been presented so far isn't clearly showing that. --
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and post another request at Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review once the draft is complete and ask that the draft be move to
463: 455: 446: 426: 365:] Also, his music videos have been in the Featured Playlist natioanlly at MTV. Here is a link to MTV Asia proving that: 534: 104: 17: 493: 313: 479: 292: 169: 489: 343:. This is typical with fringe musicians, a gaggle of fans come to try squeeze blood from the notability stone. 439:
Your initial request above is asking Knowledge (XXG) to reward Ian Erix with a Knowledge (XXG) article for:
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pushing the same claptrap isn't promising. A lone news reference to somebody working in
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Not sure I understand that. so I'm probably being dense. The relevant part seems to be
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of Ian Erix to maintain a stand alone article within Knowledge (XXG). See
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choose to publish and that is a main reason why Knowledge (XXG) uses the
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Significant new information has come to light since the deletion.
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sockpuppet army's time would probably be better spent elsewhere.
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While impressive, a Knowledge (XXG) article is not a reward. If
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Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
Log
2012 June 12
Deletion review archives
2012 June
2012 June 14
13 June 2012
Ian Erix
NAC
Armbrust, B.Ed.

The Undertaker 20–0
08:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
deletion review
Ian Erix
talk
edit
history
logs
links
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DRV#1
Urbanturn300
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01:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
"Brazilian city hosts world's largest New Year's Eve party"
Latin American Herald Tribune
Uzma Gamal
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