657:"In 183 BC, however, Zhao Tuo proclaimed himself emperor in Nanyue and then twice invaded Changsha, occupying a few counties. The reason was Empress Lü's decision to ban the trade of iron ware" This raises several issues. Did he proclaim in Nanyue that he was emperor of China or of Nanyue? Was he trying to conquer Changsha? "The reason was" is vague and "the trade of iron ware" is ungrammatical. Maybe "In 183 BC the empress banned the export of iron wares to Nanyue, and Zhao Tuo retaliated by twice invading Changsha."
360:"domesticated animals including pigs, cattle, sheep, dogs, and chickens and game animals and fowl including deer, hares, wild geese, Mandarin ducks, wild ducks, bamboo partridges, cranes, doves, magpies, owls, and sparrows." You have "and" three times in that list, which reads a little clumsily. Also, are you sure that deer and hares are types of fowl?
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At the least. The lead should summarize the article, and at the moment it's almost entirely summarizing just the history section. Rereading it, I also wonder whether there should be a dedicated section or subsection outlining our sources of information about the kingdom - for example, after the lead
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As for the economy and living standards, I've moved some information on the economy (mainly about agriculture and artisanship) to a new standalone section. What do you think about this? I don't remember reading anything in the sources about details the
Kingdom's daily life – I can't add much to this
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The
Changsha Kingdom was a kingdom of China's Han dynasty, located in present-day Hunan and some surrounding areas." I find this confusing as I would take it to mean that it was independent but you say above that it was a vassal kingdom. For clarity, maybe "The Changsha Kingdom was a vassal kingdom
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China, notably the only one that is not ruled by the imperial clan. Changsha is one of the better known among the kingdoms, but overall, this is perhaps still a relatively overlooked topic in
Chinese history. The article has recently passed GA review, and hopefully it is also up to FA standards now.
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The beginning of the territorial extent section needs to be reworded. Instead of starting with a statement about a theoretical size, before saying it is unlikely, and then giving another theoretical size, then caveating, perhaps group the two sizes and then state both are unlikely, and then provide
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It is not immediately clear what the first source is citing. Upon checking it seems to be the basis for the map, but I haven't seen images sourced like that before. If it contains information that was useful to build that picture, than perhaps it contains information that can be introduced as prose
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The sources indeed say that they were all sons. But the ancient
Chinese usually marry and have children in late teenage years, and there's also the fact that Wu Rui was already quite old in 203 BC. Assuming he was 60 at that time, we'll have 84 years for 5 generations, 17 on average, so still a bit
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I think my point may have been unclear: my question is not whether currently these texts are specific to this region, but historically - were they written by
Changsha scholars, or brought into Changsha from elsewhere? The last work is mentioned to be by a Chu author but for the others this is not
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Adjusted the paragraph and moved the tutor's part higher up. The chancellor is still the highest office – the chancellor was also appointed by the emperor rather than the king himself, so the grand tutor's tasks would not have much to do with him. Based on the job's duties I also imagine that the
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Thanks for taking the time to go over this article! About the language issue, I think the difficulty is perhaps caused by the historical background of this period. There were some very complex conflicts in the 3rd-2nd centuries BC period so it's inevitable that some parts may seem unclear without
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The second source is used to establish that "Changsha was one of the largest and longest-lasting kingdoms in Han China." However, this is not repeated in the article body, and the article body does not definitively support the statement, as it only compares its length with the kingdoms that were
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In which case could you put the map images PD tag(s) inside a =={{int:license-header}}== notice - as you have done for the comets and banner images. I was doubtful as to whether the funeral banner can be considered "two-dimensional", but on consideration I think that it can.
629:"it was the only one to survive the Emperor's campaign to eliminate kings that were not members of the imperial family" This assumes that you have already mentioned the campaign. I would say in x year the emperor launched a campaign and Changsha was the only one to survive.
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For the three images in question I think the "faithful photographic reproduction of a two-dimensional, public domain work of art" tag should be enough for public domain status. They are all used in a lot of articles, especially the map which is also in the FA article
1392:"was demoted first to the rank of duke and then to a commoner" - need a bit more context here. Is duke a high rank within the ranking system at that time? Are there many ranks between duke and commoner? How does it compare to the rank of marquis mentioned later?
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Edited to 'a kingdom within the Han Empire of China'. I'm a bit hesitant to use the term "vassal", though. In
Chinese contexts, the term seem to be more commonly applied to non-Chinese states outside of China proper (for example the Xiongnu in later Han
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The
Economy and Science sections could do more to contextualize their contents. For example, how did diet and agriculture in this region compare to elsewhere in the empire? Are the texts mentioned specific to this region or imported from elsewhere?
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I've addressed the issues. Most of these are relatively minor problems on language and style left over in previous rounds of reviews, I believe. If there are still any remaining it should be entirely possible for me to correct them in one run.
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I started to say above that I have done a little copy editing, and that you should let me know if you are unhappy with any of my changes. But I only got part way through the sentence. Apologies. I have done a little more, and the same applies.
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The information on economy and science are all based on pieces of archeological evidence scattered in different tombs so I don't think making such a comparison will be easy. If you find it really important then maybe I can link the
556:"the Changsha branch of the Liu family saw its autonomy greatly diminished". The relevance of this comment is unclear without explanation. Had the kingship been granted to a member of the Liu family? Did they side with the rebels?
852:" the imperial government". Also, this contradicts the statement that the chancellor was highest. I think you should put the grand tutor at the start of Government section and clarify his power over the king and his government.
1107:"File:Han dynasty Kingdoms 195 BC.png" Source: the image may be "own work" - fine - but I assume that the information for it was drawn from a RS? Which needs to be cited, just like any other information in an article. See
867:"Meanwhile, the high status of the court clerk was similar to that of the Warring States rather than the Han central government." This means little unles you explain the status of the court clerk in the Warring States.
1134:"File:Western Han Mawangdui Silk Map.JPG" Sadly, while the original map may be out of copyright, the photograph of it isn't - or, at least, no evidence has been presented that it is. It has been scanned from
834:"Except for the chancellor and grand tutor (太傅, tàifù) who were selected by the imperial court, all officials were appointed by the king." I think you need a comma after "tutor (太傅, tàifù)" for clarity.
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This is my first FAC nomination but the article's language and style have been much improved thanks to the DYK and GA reviews. I'll try my best to solve any remaining issue. All feedback is welcome!
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Okay, you're welcome to bring this back for another nom after addressing the sourcing issues (presumably beyond the two-week minimum waiting period for a re-nom after this is closed). Cheers,
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This source is used mainly for the translation of
Chinese terms, so there is no inline citations yet. How do you think should the citations be added, or should I remove this entry altogether?
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The lead says the kingdom was "re-established" in 155 BC. That gives the impression it was somehow ended after the initial dynasty died, but the article prose doesn't explain the gap at all.
250:"Zhao Tuo, King of Nanyue" In another case when you use this formulation ("Ying Bu, king of Huainan") you use a lower case k. There are arguments either way, but you should be consistent.
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article right now since the coronavirus is keeping me at home, but once things settle down a bit I can hopefully go through the sources again and see if I can find more about the topic.
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It's from the imperial government. It is mentioned in the first sentence 'closely followed that of the Han central government', and I edited the following paragraph to make it clearer.
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At the moment the article doesn't provide enough information for a reader to know that, even assuming the average reader is familiar with duke vs marquis in the western system.
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383:"A selection of beers, made from wheat, millet, and rice, was also available." This reads more like a sales brochure than an encyclopedia entry. Could you consider rephrasing?
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fully explaining the overall situation. I've rewritten the history section a bit and hopefully the chronology and events are a lot clearer now. Working on other issues soon.
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I have boldly moved it to "Further reading". If you don't like this, feel free to revert. Alternatively, you could add a sentence to this section explaining the book's role.
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As an overall point, the lead is insufficient as a summary of the article. It is also unbalanced, with 1 article section (history) take up the majority of the lead.
132:"until Wu Zhu died without an heir." Could we have a date after this. Which will also tell a reader the duration of the kingdom, which ought to be early in a lead.
612:"When the Chu Hegemon-King Xiang Yu became the prominent leader in the rebellion" This is ungrammatical. I would say "the most prominent leader" or "the leader".
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A fine article. Impressive on first reading and prompt and effective responses to my comments. Are you sure that this is your first FAC? Happy to support.
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806:"Changsha was sparsely populated compared to other parts of the Han dynasty." A dynasty being sparsely populated sounds wrong. I would say "Han empire".
1286:. I originally came in to do a source review but spotted some prose and style issues that lead me to believe this isn't quite ready for promotion yet.
570:"Changsha was one of the largest and longest-lasting kingdoms of the Han dynasty." I think it would again be helpful to clarify with "vassal kingdoms".
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945:. Looks fine now apart from the heading "Culture and life". That does not work because culture is part of life. How about "Culture and daily life"?
1478:" articles or add a summary of them. As for the texts, they are all found exclusively in this region. I've edited the section to make it clear.
1657:, you appear to have edited WP recently so pls address the above issues ASAP as we need to look at closing this one way or the other. Cheers,
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778:"Han would eventually won its conflict with Chu" This is ungrammatical. Maybe "The Han would eventually win its conflict with the Chu"
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That all looks good. Information about the economies of ancient civilisations tends to be fairly thin on the ground. I'm pleased to
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I am confused about the fall of the Qin. Was it a three way fight with Rui defecting from Chu to Liu Bang? If so, you should say so.
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Ah. The original source is at the end of
Description on the Commons page. I have added the cite to Source; feel free to edit it.
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Is it well established that each king was the son of the previous one? Five generations in 24 years (203-179 BC) seems unlikely.
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202 BC was for the establishment of the Han empire, not the
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I'm embarrassed to say that I knew nothing about this topic coming into the article. I'd like to offer the following comments:
1144:"File:Mawangdui Astrology Comets Ms.JPG" Similar. It seems to have been scanned direct from a book. It also lacks a US PD tag.
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Comments aside, I enjoyed reading about the topic, and appreciate how cleanly the historiography is worked into the text.
750:"Rui's army joined forces with the Han leader Liu Bang" You should link "Han" as it is the first mention in the main text.
584:"Changsha was relatively advanced in technology and art." Relatively advanced compared with what? Other vassal kingdoms?
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In the sentence "In 178 BC, the kingdom...", "the kingdom" should be changed, as the last entity mentioned was Nanyue.
1057:! It is really an obscure topic, usually this will only get one or two sentences at most in a book on Chinese history.
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Done, changed to 'was'. It seems that was not a totally new development, so 'Ironware was available' will be better.
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All deleted. It's because much of this article was edited by earlier reviewers. I wouldn't use that myself, though.
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Territory section. The places mentioned will mean nothing to many readers. Is any estimate of the area available?
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Changed to 'rebelled' – I think its cause will be difficult to explain in one or two sentences, so I left it out.
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Fixed the map image. Personally I think the banner is fine – but the 2-D requirement is a bit confusing indeed.
1401:"Stripped of his titles" would be a better expression here. The rank of duke (English translation of the title
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More to follow. This is an interesting article, but I find it difficult to follow due to the unclear language.
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Many thanks for taking the time to review! I've corrected most of the issues here, and replied to the others.
194:"was forced to rebel" Again this seems to beg a question. Perhaps briefly state why, or change to 'rebelled'?
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Those specific examples, yes. The article would benefit from a more comprehensive pass for clarity and flow.
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tutor would not have direct power over other officials and affairs in the court, while the chancellor would.
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of China's Han dynasty, located in the south of the empire in present-day Hunan and some surrounding areas."
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That's it with my comments. See also one reply above. For future articles you might try asking for help at
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You have a section heading "Culture", but it also includes food. Maybe "Food and culture" or "Daily life"
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the current lead should be sufficient. Maybe the second paragraph can be expanded a bit?
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has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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There don't appear to have been any edits to the article since my most recent comments.
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Infobox and text both give established date as 203/202 BC, but lead says only 202 - why?
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These journals probably don't have DOIs. Will urls be sufficient? I've added the links.
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The 'Liu family' is supposed to mean the imperial family, changed to that.
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You can go on and close it. I won't have much time in the next few days.
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Is there a reason the final two kings did not receive Posthumous names?
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Nb. It is my intention to claim points for this review in the WikiCup.
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Unfortunately no, but maybe I can add a map to display these locations.
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stated. And yes, I think broader contextualization would be useful.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Given the length of the article a longer lead would be appropriate
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Changed 'available' to 'discovered', that probably sounds better.
146:"was then still fertile lowlands" I think "still" is redundant.
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A cracking article. I enjoyed that. That's it from me for now.
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Ho hum. OK, let's leave it for whoever does the source review.
202:"the king of Changsha pretended to assist him" Upper case K.
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NB, I intend to claim points in the WikiCup for this review.
399:"Science and Technology" section header. Lower case t per
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The article itself is not very long (18 kb prose) so per
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1369:"was among the weakest among the kingdoms" - repetitive
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Looking pretty good so far. Nice work. More to follow.
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How are things standing with your comments/oppose? --
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Knowledge:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests
1754:The above discussion is preserved as an archive.
1366:"until early the 1st century AD" - missing a word
1329:Have concerns about some of the prose. Examples:
289:Hucker is in the bibliography, but is not cited.
210:"Wu Chen reigned for 8 years" "8" → 'eight', per
98:This article is about a vassal kingdom of early
43:. No further edits should be made to this page.
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1532:as well? That would be better in terms of
281:"Citations" Several "p." should be 'pp.'.
205:Changed this and some other similar cases.
41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
1476:Science and technology of the Han dynasty
605:Done, added the time span of Qin dynasty.
313:Li Shisheng, Wu and Yi need identifiers.
888:Changed. What about 'culture and life'?
711:These are all great points, fixed now.
1151:Changed to appropriate tag on Commons.
18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates
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1269:Did I miss a source review? Cheers,
336:Loewe and Harper need page numbers.
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1109:File:Battle of Cape Ecnomus map.svg
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529:short but not too unrealistic.
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31:featured article nomination
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771:Changed to simply 'king'.
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478:Great to hear that :)
1587:Additional coord note
1542:eliminated by 190 BC.
1188:Sino-Roman relations
591:Rewritten this part.
1099:Image review - pass
222:Link "enfeoffed" -
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100:Han dynasty
1641:Nikkimaria
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1339:Nikkimaria
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1265:Coord note
1721:WP:FAC/ar
1717:candidate
1534:WP:ACCESS
734:rebellion
224:Feoffment
1739:Ian Rose
1715:: This
1698:Ian Rose
1683:Esiymbro
1677:Ian Rose
1659:Ian Rose
1655:Esiymbro
1619:Ealdgyth
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1526:Comments
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1271:Ian Rose
1233:Esiymbro
1192:Esiymbro
1063:Esiymbro
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713:Esiymbro
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577:Changed.
480:Esiymbro
444:Esiymbro
164:Optional
108:Esiymbro
83:Esiymbro
54:Ian Rose
50:archived
1623:WP:LEAD
1474:" and "
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1165:Done.
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