1581:"Rivadavia's genesis can be traced to the naval arms races between Chile and Argentina which were spawned by territorial disputes over their mutual borders in Patagonia and Puna de Atacama along with control of the Beagle Channel." Perhaps add a couple of commas to break up the sentence: "Rivadavia's genesis can be traced to the naval arms races between Chile and Argentina, which were spawned by territorial disputes over their mutual borders in Patagonia and Puna de Atacama, along with control of the Beagle Channel."
1990:"This angered the American government, which did not want its warship technology offered to the highest bidder—yet they did not want to exercise a contract-specified option that gave the United States first choice if the Argentines decided to sell, as naval technology had already progressed past the Rivadavia class, particularly in the adoption of the "all-or-nothing" armor scheme." Very long sentence; suggest splitting after "highest bidder", so "...offered to the highest bidder. However, they did not..."
184:, angered many countries, and the choice of an American country angered them further. Still, it turned out to be a fortuitous decision, as a ship ordered from a European company would have been taken over at the start of WWI. After many rumors of a sale to a belligerent country, Argentina took over the ships and did virtually nothing with them, aside from a European cruise in 1937, until they were scrapped in the late 50s.
669:: Generally these look OK. Spotchecks on the online links reveal no problems. One question of format, re the Livermore citations. At present we have "12: Livermore 45", then "14: Livermore 45–46", "15: 46–47" and "16: Livermore 47". With all these overlaps there is scope for combining; why not "Livermore, 45–47"?
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It looks like both the
Radicals and the Socialists made massive gains in 1914 and 1916. The Radicals went from 24% in 1912 to 32%, then 48%. The Socialists went from 21% in 1912 to 36% to 41%. See p. 228 in Jeremy Adelman, "Socialism and Democracy in Argentina in the Age of the Second International,"
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impressive), and I can understand that some writers believe they're following our advice to follow the sources ... and they may be right. If even the best-written scholarly sources tend to use the
Spanish word, perhaps to express a subtle distinction, then we can argue that we're doing the reader a
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Thanks for your review, WSC. You know, I was all about getting the lead sentences right a year ago ... all the good feedback we're getting at FAC these days is making me realize that my focus on
Milhist's A-class review hasn't been entirely good for my copyediting ... I'm faster now, but sloppier.
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I'm currently reviewing a
Milhist article with every 10th word in German, and no one seems to have a problem with that except me, so considered it a victory that I was able to cut out as much Spanish as I did :) My position, FWIW: I can understand that scholarly sources are going to throw in a lot
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Quick comment ... it's been a while since I've jumped in on a FAC that was underway, and I want to make sure no one gets the idea that I'm angling for a bronze star when I review or copyedit ... it's all free. Ed and I have worked together for a long time, including on this article, and he was
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Well, what caught me out when I read it the first time is whether the naval arms races that are mentioned in the first sentence are the same as those in the second sentence. Combining was one option, I suppose another is to say "These arms races flared up...", just to link the ideas together.
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No, all measurements should be in
English, which conforms best to Argentina's usage when it was built. Adding |disp=flip to the templates will get them to display in English units. Be sure to add |sp=us to any remaining metric units to follow the American English used in the article.
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I'm happy with the capitalization. "first division" doesn't mean the same thing as "First
Division" (just as "First Army" doesn't mean "the first army"), but "Training Division" could only mean the training division, so the caps aren't necessary (and so are generally discouraged in
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Perhaps even combine "1890s" into the first sentence here, so "...can be traced to naval arms races between Chile and
Argentina in the 1890s, which were spawned..." The next sentence would then be "These naval arms races flared up again in 1902, and were eventually stopped
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in this case) if that term is often used in
English sources, which happens in some cases, especially if the foreign term doesn't mean exactly the same thing as the word that generally translates it. I haven't read most of the sources so I can't say whether this applies to
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reveals the same. Not sure how strict we are being on the "every fact cited" rule, but we might be able to get away with adding this. Perhaps "...christened by
Isabella, the wife of Rómulo Sebastián Naón, the Argentine Minister to the United States, on 26 August 1911..."
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The grammar of "she was moored in Puerto
Belgrano from 1948 on, "gradually reduced into ineffectiveness" from 1951, and was left derelict and unarmed, a source for cannibalized equipment, from 1952." could be improved - initial S capitalised & punctuation looked
1211:"stricken from the Navy on 1 February 1957. Three months later on 30 May, Rivadavia was sold... Less than a year after that, the ship was towed by two tugboats to Savona, Italy; they left on 3 April 1959" - 3 April 1959 is not "less than a year" after 30 May 1957
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I'd agree with you if the second sentence had to add a lot more words in order to fit "1890s" in, but it didn't. Since the first sentence seemed to you to need "breaking up" (and I agree), it's not going to help things to add even more to the sentence. - Dank
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I would be fine with this change. The parallel I draw on is with the Brazilian battleships – while were not actively used because they were old and not in the best condition, but at the same time they were employed in limited capacities. Presumably the
2416:"The rumors were partially true; some Argentines in the government were looking to get rid of the battleships and devote the proceeds to opening more schools". Presumably being an Argentine wasn't particularly unusual in that particular Government?
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I rejected "due to" at first, but after reading up a bit, I think it's fine. "Due to" gets the stink-eye from some overzealous style gurus. Otherwise, I prefer Ed's word order, but I can agree to lose "but only". Okay with you, Ed? - Dank
1695:, in the thesaurus, groups "via" with "with the assistance or aid of, on, supported by". Merriam-Webster's gives: "through the medium or agency of". Do you have a dictionary, thesaurus or style guide that sheds some light on this? - Dank (
1065:"During their construction, the two dreadnoughts were subject to numerous rumors that Argentina might sell the two battleships to a country engaged in the First World War, but the ships were not sold" - phrasing is somewhat awkward, reword?
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does suggest that "through" would be better in BritEng. Thanks for bringing this up ... as I said, I'm always looking to massage the language so that it's clear to non-Americans, if we can do that without damage to the AmEng. Done. - Dank
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Looking at the pictures I see five twin gun turrets as the main armament but the article refers to 12 main guns, though I suppose it is possible there is another turret amidships. Please could you check this and confirm their layout.
1481:"During their construction, there were numerous rumors that Argentina might sell them to a country engaged in the First World War, but the ships were not sold." Why say "numerous?"? "rumors" (with the plural) should stand on its own.
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Hmmm. The ship would have only traveled at 10 to 15 knots with stops for coal, but a trip to London at roughly half the distance would have only been a week or so... this is a very good question, and I will look farther into it.
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My Oxford dictionary defines "via" as "by way of, through", but generally only between places, not subjects. If "via" has a slightly different meaning in American English, then keep it in, otherwise "through" flows better.
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section, but I think ordering things chronologically makes the most sense, which puts that sentence after the material on the attempted sale, and it would look lonely in its own paragraph in the previous section. - Dank
721:"a general machinery overhaul,": You've got a comma at the end of a sentence here. If there's a period in the quoted material, you can put it either inside or outside the quote marks; otherwise it goes outside.
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My replies are above. Sorry to Dank for overwriting your lower comments, but I didn't feel like restoring "Ed got it" after the edit-conflict. :-) Ealdgyth, thanks for reviewing this – I greatly appreciate it.
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Fair enough. But where do you draw the line? (Not suggesting you add it, but I'm assuming Boston Harbor is in Boston, Massachusetts, which a graduate of the Australian education system usually wouldn't know).
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It's not wrong, but I can go along with losing the modifier here (as opposed to above) because all the examples follow immediately, so the reader doesn't have to be told that there are a lot of rumors. - Dank
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2206:"...she called on three countries in the Caribbean and northern South America, includingTrinidad, Venezuela, and Colombia." or "...she called on three countries in the Caribbean and northern South America
1128:"Brazil decided in early 1907 to halt three obsolescent pre-dreadnoughts which were under construction in favor of two or three dreadnoughts" - probably clearer to write "..halt the construction of..."
2038:"Even though" is slightly stronger than "although" in AmEng, and appropriate here since she was being commissioned a long time before she was finished. Does it sound wrong to Australian ears? - Dank (
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1299:£2,214,000 pounds sterling. The class article has a dollar figure, but I've been told that using Measuring Worth is not an accurate conversion for something relating to GDP and purchasing power.
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1757:"Historian Robert Scheina commented that the ships ordered by Brazil "outclassed the entire Argentinian fleet."" This is very picky, but the way it is written suggests he said it at the time.
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Conversion from coal to fuel oil is liable to greatly increase the range, or free up bunker space for other purposes. Could you check whether the range figure was before or after the refit?
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What tripped me up was that there are eight consecutive words which are linked. The fact that Argentina was a republic is not critical to understanding this article, but I'll let this go.
1225:"Debates raged in Argentina over whether to spend more than two million pounds sterling to acquire their own dreadnoughts" - unclear who "they" refers to, I assume you mean Argentinians?
2546:"In 1917, the ship sailed to Comodoro Rivadavia when communist oil workers went on strike" - more detail on this would be interesting, was this to maintain order or to break the strike?
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The Australian/American/British English divide is generally exaggerated; I read a lot of texts published in the States for my work and study, so I'm generally aware of any differences.
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I really think that a reader would be better served by a couple paragraphs of description rather than littering the infobox with citations. However, that's not really a criteria here.--
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service to define and introduce the word ... in fact, they may not be able to understand the sources if we don't, since most scholarly sources aren't as helpful as we are. - Dank (
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Well, if you feel it's better, I'm open to changing it. I've always thought the link was a bit hidden with "her class", but it has become a habit to write my leads in that way.
2361:"designed by the American Fore River Shipbuilding Company" begs the question who built it? May I suggest "designed and built by the American Fore River Shipbuilding Company".
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General note: I'm happy to respond to any comments on the prose, although I don't always agree. If my suggestions don't sound right to Australian ears, let me know. - Dank (
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It's Spanish for battleship. I've clarified this in the text. I've also removed the translation for the Ergentine Navy, as it was already in the footnote (as you say below).
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Class says 'Fore River Shipbuilding Company' while this article says 'Fore River Shipyard'. The latter is the wikilink for the former - they probably should be consistent.
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has the Conservatives in power until 1916, then losing to the radicals. I think that jibes with the bit about socialist gains in 1914, I was thinking of simply replacing
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Slightly stronger in any English, I think. So it doesn't sound wrong, just a little awkward. My attitude is that you let the reader decide what needs special emphasis.
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Perhaps "She saw no active duty during the Second World War; Argentina remained neutral until March 1945 when the country declared war on the Axis powers, too late for
1155:"the former believed that the British were going to be given the ships as soon as they reached Argentina" - as soon as the ships or the British reached Argentina?
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I think you can probably drop the easter egg link to "launched" in the Construction section, especially as it links to the same article linked for 'christened'.
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2322:: I'm satisfied with the article. There are a couple of outstanding points, but not enough to prevent me from supporting, and I'm confident they'll be fixed.
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The general rule would be to lowercase "the navy", but I understand how you got rolling with "the Navy". If someone wants to change it, that's fine with me.
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turbine malfunctions." Perhaps, "After a two-week delay due to turbine malfunctions, Rivadavia conducted trials off Rockland, Maine, in mid-September 1913."
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There are no cites anywhere to support virtually all the information in the infoboxes. I'd suggest that a couple of paragraphs of description be added.
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Propulsion says 3 screws, shp (which I wikilinked); class says 3 shafts and spells out shaft horsepower. I'm not sure if shafts/screws are synonymous.
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Uh oh, I wonder if Livermore is wrong in his date of 1914? Socialists can't gain in 1914 without an election... does anyone have a source on this?
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I removed the quote and replaced it with textual info and a contemporary quote from the Argentine Foreign Minister. What do you think of it now?
1140:"a fast-growing rival to the United States" - fast-growing in what way? A rival how? Territorially, militarily, economically, in some other way?
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I believe I have addressed your remaining points. Thanks so much for your review – I really appreciate the time you took to put this together.
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Who is Whitley? Give first name/initials and possibly a brief description (ex. "military historian", "professor" - whatever he is) in the text
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Note 1 tells us that "ARA" is an acronym for Armada de la República Argentina which is currently in brackets in the text — why are both needed?
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Thanks Dank, didn't realize you and Ed17 were collaborating on this. Curious isn't it how this site draws one into lots of milhist editing.
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What does "First Division" mean in this context & why is it capitalised when "training division" isn't? (although it is in the 4th para)
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Put it in a note, it's very very jarring out there in the lead. At first, I thought you had misplaced the translation of the ship's name!
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For the most part, battleships are also nice and safe. Isn't it great to avoid all the arguments inherent in controversial topics? :-)
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I've struck out those points which are resolved, commented where it was needed, and I'll wait for Ed to take a look at the remainder.
2004:"Instead, the United States and its State Department and Navy Department put diplomatic pressure on the Argentine government." How so?
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I've searched the text for "histarmar", and that's not currently a link in the article; the only two links both work for me. - Dank (
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articles to FA. The ship had an interesting beginning but a stunningly boring career. The bidding process, described in detail in
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Ah, good point. I changed "Naval arms races" to "These arms races" in the second sentence, does that fix both problems? - Dank (
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What's wrong with reminding people that Argentina was a republic, and avoiding frequent repetition of "Argentina"? - Dank (
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Prose in general is awkward in areas - though grammar is not a major issue here, suggest copy-editing for flow and clarity
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I became confused with active & in reserve, later followed by "active service" which seems to be something different.
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I'll have to fix that. I added "and built" and moved this bit from the first sentence to the second paragraph. - Dank (
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Do refs 2 & 3 at the end of the paragraph cover the sentence about the naval arms races between Chile and Argentina?
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I wish I could assume it is, but some of the people I know can't even name the capital of the state we live in.
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The smoke from the funnels could interfere with accurate rangefinding of enemy ships in the midst of a battle.
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I tweaked this a bit; I'd appreciate it if you'd both check it to see if you're happy with the result. - Dank (
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I really dislike the whole easter egg link thing - wouldn't it be okay to go "...she was the lead ship of the
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I know very little about the topic, so please accept that some of these comments may be due to my ignorance:
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Thanks Brian. To answer your query, they are in different paragraphs or have different refs in-between. :-)
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I was trying to avoid repeating "Rivadavia", but if you think this is better, I'm fine with changing this.
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I went with "over many years"; "gradually" isn't right, since a lot of it happened immediately. - Dank (
2176:"President of the Republic Victorino de la Plaza." Perhaps "Argentinian President Victorino de la Plaza.
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There were numerous rumors, that is, rumors that sprang independently from quite a few sources. - Dank (
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It's not a Navy Bureau (which would need a capital "B"). They're bureau chiefs from the Navy. - Dank (
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Two of the External links are histarmar, but both seem to be working now, so I guess it's been fixed.
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Enough people have remarked on this, and it's not an integral translation, so I just removed it. :-)
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I can't add the first comma because that's a restrictive clause. I added the second comma. - Dank (
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Unfortunately, that's all Whitley says. I thought the same thing as you when I first read that...
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In the government, which implies also outside the goverment. I can add that if you like. - Dank (
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I split it, but I went with "Neither did they want ...". Rationalizations on request. - Dank (
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I originally wrote this article in mid-2009. I improved it in December 2010, when it passed a
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If "rumors" is at the heart of the problem, I can fix that. Otherwise, I need more. - Dank (
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The majority of this section is about political issues rather than "Construction and trials".
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took page numbers off of their archive, so I need your help to complete references 13 and 24.
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This one I'm ambivalent enough about that you don't need to bother changing just for me.
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I handled a few. Ed's busy but should be back soon. Thanks for your comments. - Dank (
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Hopping in as a co-nom ... I still support, but it's not the same thing :) - Dank (
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This changes the meaning in a couple of ways, but it might be okay. Ed? - Dank (
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Not convinced that "military" is necessary, but it doesn't hurt. Added. - Dank (
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Thanks, I was thinking of linking that into a history of Argentina article, but
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microfilms this weekend for more details on this and the communist oil strike.
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The 22.56 knots article is page 2; the "Off for home" article is page 12.
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Did the wife of the Argentine Minister to the United States have a name?
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Why are we translating the word "battleship" in the lead into Spanish???
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I like it as well – that's a much better way of organizing the article.
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I like the current wording. I can expand on that if you like. - Dank (
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Do you have a suggestion as to how to make it better? They weren't the
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Surely it's common knowledge Buenos Aires is the capital of Argentina?
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I assume Buzaco is a foreign-language source? Should be noted as such
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Thanks for your comments, I think I've addressed the rest! Regards,
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I shortened it to "President" -- there's no need for the wordiness.
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I had the same question; apparently, the sources don't say. - Dank (
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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2743:" refers to the Brazilian dreadnoughts? Might make this clearer.
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It would be before, as it didn't list the armament alterations.
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You're my new favorite person, Sasata. :-) Thank you very much!
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as some readers may not be aware of the meaning of this phrase?
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Might not it be good to note who commissioned HMS Dreadnought?
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The lengths don't match up between the class and this article.
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It's generally appropriate to give the foreign-language term (
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My sources give a single crew size number, and nothing more.
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My sources don't give any... I may try hunting in the London
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Thanks Nikki, I'll address these comments tonight after work!
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No, but it does cover all the sentences back to reference 12.
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Some mention of crew sizes and structure would be relevant.
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is a red link, perhaps add a short explanation, or de-link.
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All of your comments should be addressed. Thanks very much!
2224:"over the years" is an awkward phrase; perhaps "...and was
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under construction in Italy to Japan where they became the
1197:"extensive bidding process" is mentioned only in the lead
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History of Argentina (The Radicals in Power, 1916–1930)
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Guns need should be converted to metric. Ditto Armor.
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2242:I'll be happy to support once these are addressed.
2141:I assumed that was the case. Can that be added in?
1722:The definition at of via at oxforddictionaries.com
1496:" can't cover this. "Numerous" just sounds vague.
657:I hope these comments make sense and are useful.—
118:Featured article candidates/ARA Rivadavia/archive1
2861:The above discussion is preserved as an archive.
1285:I reworded the sentence to avoid using his name.
966:I added citations and removed the bulletpoints.
894:The two images seem to have appropiate licences
41:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates
481:... that information usually occurs before the
43:. No further edits should be made to this page.
2867:No further edits should be made to this page.
2210:including Trinidad, Venezuela, and Colombia."
29:The following is an archived discussion of a
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2355:Hi Ed17, nice work, just a couple of queries
1761:Agreed, changed to "has commented". - Dank (
1693:Webster's New World Dictionary and Thesaurus
1743:abrupt shock". Shocks are generally abrupt.
558:, and other current style guides). - Dank (
18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
196:pretty insistent that I join him. - Dank (
122:
2765:I combined the links, is that all right?
697:. I've just finished copyediting per my
565:So why are they needed in the 4th para?—
2214:Oops, thanks. Dropped "three". - Dank (
191:. I hope you enjoy reading the article!
2486:The Hispanic American Historical Review
1310:Bibliographic information for Scheina,
1112:is linked twice in the second paragraph
389:Are the Navy bureau (1st para) and the
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358:How about "and Argentina sold its two
2469:The only book I checked is Scheina's
1890:So we'll see what the resolution is.
404:I'll go with your expert knowledge.—
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2602:File:Rivadavia-class battleships.jpg
2015:Are there other sources that might?
952:says no bullet lists in infoboxes.--
2747:You're very right, does this work?
1883:It's been mentioned above. - Dank (
1492:I still don't understand why "rumor
1336:as the shortened title for Whitley
1296:Do we know how much the ship cost?
2263:Thanks for your comments. - Dank (
837:Range doesn't match class article.
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2846:Really appreciate it, V. - Dank (
496:Thanks I think that is helpful.—
1865:Either way is fine with me. :-)
1019:still appears to be a dead link
2785:over inflationary conversions.
736:) 16:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
701:; feel free to revert. - Dank (
574:I missed that. Fixed. - Dank (
1908:I think we could link this to
294:Would it be worth wikilinking
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1688:"Through" rather than "via".
1330:Battleships of World War Two
861:Infobox should be fine now.
750:Disambig/External Link check
2488:72, no. 2 (1972), 211–238,
2473:. It's not there. - Dank (
31:featured article nomination
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2721:Yes it would, nice catch!
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2439:, but the dates conflict.
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2372:12:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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1214:Wow, that was sad. Fixed.
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448:Added "starting". - Dank (
393:(2nd para) the same thing?
189:WikiProject A-class review
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473:I created a new section,
202:04:07, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
2864:Please do not modify it.
1799:names her only as "Mme.
384:Construction and trials
338:-class" to the Japanese
334:I found the linking of "
36:Please do not modify it.
1747:Agreed, fixed. - Dank (
1534:should not need linking
1328:Be consistent in using
910:Image copyright review
431:need to be a redlink?
1552:to become involved."
1200:Added in the article
1118:I need more. - Dank (
810:are all battleships.
349:class until later...
56:19:13, 26 March 2011
1369:Scheina or Schenia?
340:Kasuga class cruiser
2735:I'm assuming that "
1620:British mediation."
1252:Explained. - Dank (
730:standard disclaimer
699:standard disclaimer
323:Yup, Scheina does.
1797:The New York Times
1317:Added, nice catch
606:The vessel is the
2130:Over 47,000 what?
1849:a two-week delay
455:Wow, nice catch.
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