1077:
miles southwest of ..." etc). In the absence of such a map, this sort of textual description of the various locations and directions is needed. The Map No. 1, for example, shows the road from Kansas City and
Westport to Independence and two fords, as well as several other landmarks that could be used to help the reader, and from which better physical descriptions could extrapolate. A more detailed explanation of where the forces were with respect to various landmarks would be very helpful. Here are some examples: "ordered Blunt to move (in what direction and how far) to Warrensburg", and "Price was only 20 miles (32 km) away (in what direction) at Waverly", there are plenty of examples of where more information is required about locations and their relative position to places and other troops.
1011:
Big Blue days are different, and the scenes of the two sub-battles are also different, one being the ford and the other Potato Hill, with
Westport then also apparently involving the ford. It is interesting that Kansas Memory specifies that the Battle of Byram's Ford occurred on 22 October, and doesn't mention the second day, while the NPS does. This overall confusion seriously impacts on the lead, as what is part of this battle and what is part of other battles is not as clear as it needs to be.
1161:"He then gave Blunt and Melvin S. Grant, who commanded two Kansas State Militia regiments positioned to the south near Hickman Mills," makes it sound like Blunt and Grant both commanded a Kansas State Militia regiment. Perhaps "He then gave Blunt, along with Melvin S. Grant – who commanded two Kansas State Militia regiments positioned to the south near Hickman Mills, orders..."
1015:
happened in one of the World Wars, everything between Little Blue River on Oct. 21 and
Westport would probably be considered a single battle, but for some reason, this is very subdivided in sources. I've tried to clarify the dividing line between Second Independence and Byram's Ford in the lead, and I'm open to suggestion on how to accomplish this better
199:- I can't quite tell with certainty. Official stuff for the park doesn't mention the NRHP, while the NHRP nomination form doesn't mention the park but could well be older than it. There's a number of references to the "Big Blue Battlefield" being on the NRHP, but I'm not sure if that's referring to the park or other parts of the battlefield.
630:"Sinisi considers Lause's figures to be too high, and prefers estimates from researcher Bryce Suderow of 510 Confederate and 361 Union losses for all fighting on the 23rd." Why give Suderow's estimate through Sinisi, and not just that estimate itself? Then you could end the sentence with Sinisi agreeing with it.
1092:
Bit of a messy situation. Technically detached and under
Deitzler, but Deitzler didn't do hardly anything and Blair did more. But despite being nominally a separate wing, I noticed doing a re-read of Lause that he briefly notes that Blair essentially functioned as another brigade for Blunt, so I've
1118:
Three main sources I have access to right now (Collins, Sinisi, Lause) don't mention the Old
Independence Road by name, except for an appearance in a map in Sinisi. I can compare Sinisi's map and Lause's description of the Union line and be pretty confident that the extreme northern one was one the
1010:
I have a fundamental question about whether this is in fact two or more battles, and the overall schema of the related battles: Big Blue 22 October, Independence, Big Blue 22 October and even aspects of the Battle of
Westport appear inter-related and overlapping. The commanders and forces on the two
726:
I noticed a few refs in the lead for alt names, ("Battle of Big Blue River and the Battle of the Blue) was...") any reason why those alt names are only mentioned in the lead and not in the main prose? I thought the should summarise the article but not contain facts that don't appear in the article.
795:
Don't have access to
Monnett at the moment, but checked the other three I view as the principal sources (Lause, Collins, Sinisi) and all three use "2nd Kansas State Militia Regiment" or "2nd KSM", so the "State" is standard in sources. Adding the "infantry" in the article is needed for the MILHIST
368:
The source (Sinisi) specifically notes that that the
Confederates needed to use the captured axes. The Confederates did have axes on the raid because they'd used them earlier, but my guess is that they must have left them in the rear with the wagons. Would it be too unfair to note that this was a
1014:
The overwhelming consensus of high-quality sources treat this as a single battle (I don't know why, I personally would be tempted to divide this up among the other actions). In particular, the ending stage of the rout at the end isn't clearly delineable between
Westport and Byram's Ford. If this
824:
Changed the mention to
Department of the Missouri. Collins and Lause use "Department of Missouri", but Sinisi, which is the best of the three, uses "Department of the Missouri" and Collins quotes a period letter that uses "Department of the Missouri", so I think going with that title is supported
1435:
I've tried to clarify this a bit (I actually forgot to mention a second recrossing of the Big Blue). I've added part of the distance which is directly stated in Sinisi, but aside from attempting to OR distances by trying to use the scale for a map found in the Collins PDF, I don't think there's a
1076:
it would help a lot if the rough distances between Curtis' force and Pleasonton's force and Price's force were included at the bottom of the second para of the "To the Big Blue River" section. In fact, a local map would help a lot in understanding the dispositions ("five miles east of ...", "ten
1000:
also, the link at fn 3 refers to Battle of the Big Blue, not Battle of the Blue. Also Battle of the Big Blue River and Battle of the Big Blue are almost identical and I'm not sure the second one is justified in the lead. It also seems to me that the NPS is a far better source than Kansas Memory.
738:
Because the sources don't make a point of noting that the battle was in Jackson Co., as the county lines were not significant to the fighting. Kennedy states that it was in the county, but Kennedy also provides the county or parish for every battle listed in that book. Essentially, I'm only
332:
Does changing the whole sentence to "As not all of the Kansas State Militia was fully mobilized, and the strength of those units that had arrived at Kansas City had been reduced greatly due to men lagging behind on the march, Curtis had around 5,000 men in his force, which was known as the
96:
With 8 successful FACs under my belt, I'm now taking the bold step of taking an article straight from GAN to FAC. I'm confident in the sourcing and comprehensiveness, but apologies in advance for the prose, which may be even worse than normal, as there have been fewer eyes on it.
842:
Source just uses "signal officers" without any elaboration. I can't find an equivalent link, I'm not sure how to explain it since the source is a bit vague, and the officer's role as signal officers isn't vital to the meaning of the sentence, so I've just removed the word
1432:"south via the Harrisonville Road, recrossing the Big Blue, and then striking the Fort Scott Road south of Little Santa Fe" isn't clear. In which compass direction would they be recrossing the Big Blue? Any idea about distances? There is a rough scale on the old map.
899:
Normally I'd say no, but Sinisi (who is one of the very best sources for this subject, IMO) says it's the preferable estimate, and Suderow has published a book about another battle in this campaign through an academic publisher, so I think it's okay for this specific
1153:"When Union officers on the north part of the line reported seeing minimal Confederate activity on the road to Kansas City, Curtis became concerned about a potential flanking attack." I don't follow the logic of this. Why and where did he expect it, north or south?
608:
Clarified the official reasons. Sources imply that Pleasonton was a little too happy to can Brown because he didn't like it, and McFerran had also hid out behind the lines in his previous battle, but the relative merits of the arrests are probably undue material
1106:
It would be helpful to describe the extent of the Big Blue along which the sides were arrayed. Map No. 1 is unclear, but it looks as if it included the Old Independence Road in the north with what looks to be a unit deployed there. How far south? Hickman Mills?
108:. But historians have treated this as a separate event, so here we are with the third Price's Raid FAC. Confederate cavalry pushes Union cavalry and militia across the ford on Day 1, while Union cavalry trailing the Confederates push across the ford on Day 2.
633:
Sinisi state's that Suderow's work is unpublished and it probably isn't really due weight on its own or directly citable to itself, and the usability of that figure comes primarily through Sinisi agreeing with it. I'm open to other ways to phrase it, though,
1038:
I think it's significant to keep the difference between military and political here - a battlefield victory was out of the question, but there was thought to be a decent chance of the 1864 US election leading to a peace party winning and electing a
605:"Brown ran at least 90 minutes late, and when Pleasonton arrived, he placed Brown and Colonel James McFerran, the commander of the 1st Missouri State Militia Cavalry, under arrest." For being late? The cause and effect is not entirely clear here.
674:
How does "Unpublished research by Bryce Suderow estimates losses of 510 Confederates and 361 Union soldiers for all fighting on the 23rd. Sinisi considers Lause's figures to be too high, and prefers Suderow's numbers." sound?
1004:
Replaced with a source that refers to this specifically as "Battle of the Blue". My OR I won't include is that "Battle of the Blue" is primarily used in Kansas-related sources and seems to focus on the destruction of the 2nd
365:"The Union soldiers had abandoned a number of axes at the ford, which allowed the Confederates to clear the obstructions". The Confederates were attempting to force a blocked ford without having the tools to clear it! Really?
1083:
I've also added a pushpin map indicating the relative locations of Jeff City/KC/Warrensburg/Lexington/etc, although it's a little sketchy because a bunch of those places are crammed in a relatively narrow geographic
1426:
Source doesn't explicitly state this (says that the Union had a firepower advantage due to repeating weapons, but doesn't explicitly say that the Confederate only had single-shot pieces, which would be
983:
I reviewed this at GAN, and am pretty thorough there, but given it hasn't been to Milhist ACR and the extra eyes it would have got there on military technical aspects, I have quite a few comments:
796:
unit naming MOS, I believe. (As an aside, I've noticed that a number of ACW-adjacent articles have names that don't align with what modern sources use; I've had to start a fair number of RMs).
544:
It's a weird case where the MSG was fighting along with Confederate troops and sometimes under Confederate officers, but were actually fighting for the Missouri government, not the Confederacy
1098:"Pleasonton's division was encamped 6 miles (10 km) to the east of the Little Blue" comes out of the blue. Last we heard, he was at Jefferson City. When did he start chasing Price westwards?
1184:
Done - I'm assuming you were referring to the context of "meaning that the Confederates had cover, but not that element of Jennison's brigade which was in the immediate vicinity of the ford"
1156:
I've tried to clarify that this made the ruse even more obvious for what it was, and added that the expected attack was to the south. Is this better, or does it require additional work
1125:
Down to Battle, but at this point I'm quite concerned that the text doesn't provide enough detail about dispositions and movements. That is making this a bit of a grind. More to come.
1080:
I'll see what I can do. The sources aren't great about providing distances (Lause in particular has been criticized as being almost incomprehensible in geography to a non-Missourian).
1444:
I remember my annoyance at this part when I was writing this article. Sinisi tells me this, but none of the sources give a good total number. Should I just remove this clause?
428:"Seeing Shelby's command disintegrate, Jackman withdrew in the face of Sanborn's brigade. The collapse occurred at about 14:00." Possibly switch the order of these sentences?
380:
Ha! Leave it then. I'm not sure why I was surprised at a commander launching an all out attack on a ford knowing that he won't be able to clear it if he succeeds, but I was.
1395:
suggest "While the Confederates had worked on clearing the ford the previous day, obstructions still remained, and the Confederates had strengthened its defenses."
1280:
Replaced with "the Confederates had broken Curtis's line on the Big Blue" as the source is referring to the general Confederate breakthrough at the various points
1221:
suggest "Curtis had sent his escort to reinforce Jennison at Byram's Ford, placing the escort under the command of his chief of artillery, Major Robert H. Hunt."
743:
redlink isn't going to provide a reader who doesn't already know where the redlink was any information. Suggestions on how to better deal with this are welcome
1411:"positioned on the other side of the road from the ford"? Surely a road runs through a ford? Do you mean the left side of the road? Is that the southern side?
1197:
suggest "Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Battalion was sent north, where it quickly found Hinkle's Ford – a crossing used by local farmers – which was unguarded."
938:- Thanks for reviewing! I've tried to reply to all. Most are done, although I've got a bit of a query on your thoughts for handling the Jackson County one.
574:
541:"A combination of Confederate and pro-secession Missouri State Guard forces" Is there a distinction between the two? I thought they pretty much overlapped?
200:
1587:
As this one has passed image and source reviews, four supports, and supports from non-MILHIST editors, may I have a dispensation for a second nomination?
40:
286:"Eventually, Confederate pressure on the Union center led the Union troops". if we are still talking about the Little Blue, maybe 'these Union troops'?
769:
Because it's the only fact in the entire infobox that isn't cited elsewhere, and I think it's best to keep infobox citations to the minimum necessary
117:
89:
952:
Ok, two responses above, only one needs potential action, but it's not breaking any FA criteria I'm aware of so take it as you find it. Happy to
369:
cavalry expedition led by a general who was too fat to ride a horse effectively and had to be hauled around in an ambulance wagon for much of it?
1213:
suggest "Jennison, who was the senior officer, did not take command overall command of the two-brigade force," It was hardly Moonlight's job.
739:
including that because I feel like I need to have a location in the infobox, and that's about the most useful location I can think of, as the
1638:
1575:
30:
17:
1668:
1625:
1611:
1596:
1561:
1547:
1525:
1480:
1466:
1383:
1365:
1340:
1323:
1134:
967:
947:
925:
783:
757:
714:
687:
669:
647:
536:
511:
491:
469:
212:
187:
166:
142:
1649:
100:
At least to me, this is a two-day battle that feels kinda like a hodgepodge of two different actions: the first day as an extension of the
329:"the units sent to Kansas City had suffered from severe straggling". This is getting a bit specialist. Maybe rephrase or expand a little?
278:"the Union garrison could be reinforced, growing from 1,000 men to 7,000" → 'the Union garrison was reinforced from 1,000 men to 7,000'?
1115:
was the ford at the extreme northern end of the Union line located on the Old Independence Road, or between it and the Missouri River?
1052:
suggest "Price's army took so long to reach Jefferson City that the Union was able to reinforce the garrison from 1,000 to 7,000 men."
397:"the 12 foot (3.7 m) to 15 foot (4.6 m) or 15 foot (4.6 m) to 20 foot (6.1 m)". This is not helpful to a reader. Perhaps footnote it?
872:"led to two decisions: Grant decided ": repetitive, perhaps "Grant elected to" or "Grant chose" or something slightly more engaging.
257:
Gonna stick with the current wording, as Price didn't really try to attack either place so I'm not sure "resistance" is the best word
273:
Done. I have a reluctance to use the word "so" leftover from an elementary school teacher who forbid the class to use the word "so"
436:"Price's wagon train was to make its south by taking the Harrisonville Road south". I am not sure why "south" occurs twice.
1356:- before you move on to the rest of the article, how much work is needed on the attempted-addressing of the points above?
105:
176:
155:
131:
101:
962:
920:
818:
778:
752:
888:"continued 4 miles (6 km) south of the place" of the place? why not "continued 4 miles further south" or simlar?
1414:
The left (southern) side. Clarified. It took me a bit to even figure out what the sentence I had written meant.
1119:
Old Independence Road, but it takes some hardcore SYNTH to get there, so I can't really add that to the article.
301:
Rounded on the several with miles/km. I think it's okay with the acres later on because those are exact figures.
65:
1205:
suggest "but arrived at Hinkle's Ford after the Confederates had crossed. He then withdrew towards Westport."
419:
Yeah. We could do with a glossary of common military terms, similar to those for cricketing or nautical terms.
72:
735:
The location is referenced in the infobox and stated as Jackson County yet that's not in the lead, why not?
1068:
suggest "Sanborn temporarily commanded the formation until Pleasonton took up his position on October 20."
792:" 2nd Kansas State Militia Infantry Regiment " State isn't in our article's name for this, why is it here?
1557:
1521:
1462:
1379:
1319:
1130:
1060:
suggest "Brigadier Generals Egbert Brown, John McNeil and John B. Sanborn, and Colonel Edward F. Winslow"
507:
465:
957:
933:
915:
773:
747:
1145:"At around 08:00, fighting began when Shelby drove Union skirmishers back across the Big Blue" where?
1181:
suggest "but not that element of Jennison's brigade which was in the immediate vicinity of the ford"
502:
No worries - look at the state in which some of my drivel arrives at FAC. Nice account. Supporting.
348:
It looks good to me. I might replace "lagging" with 'falling', but that is just personal preference.
1374:
All good thus far. Sorry about the delay in getting back to this, will hopefully finish off today.
740:
1664:
1621:
1607:
1592:
1543:
1476:
1361:
1336:
943:
710:
683:
665:
643:
532:
487:
334:
208:
113:
85:
226:
Infobox: Template infobox military conflict says "Ranks and position titles should be omitted."
1581:
1553:
1533:
1517:
1458:
1375:
1351:
1315:
1148:
Sources don't specify. My guess would be about everywhere, but I obviously can't include that
1126:
859:
Merged the second sentence into the former and done some rephrasing, so the repetition is gone
503:
477:
461:
1642:
1583:
730:
I've added the alt names to the aftermath section, and moved the refs to there from the lead
172:
151:
127:
61:
995:
You may have been looking at an old version - I removed the cites addressing TRM's comments
660:
Could perhaps note that Suderow's estimates are unpublished, but not a dealbreaker for me.
1245:
suggest "Grant's withdrawing men encountered Gordon and the 5th Missouri Cavalry Regiment
594:
295:
1260:
Source just states that he was expecting them, without identifying which ones he expected
992:
in the lead, the alternative names don't need to be cited if they are cited in the body.
772:
I would find it strange that material in the infobox isn't covered in the prose myself.
1641:
has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
848:"Also at 11:00" are we certain of these precise timings? Wouldn't "around" be better?
1660:
1617:
1603:
1588:
1579:
1539:
1472:
1357:
1332:
1293:
suggest "Pleasonton's men were also on the move at this time: McNeil's brigade moved
1044:
suggest "Smith decided to attack the Union forces within his area of responsibility"
1027:
suggest "did not secede – despite allowing slavery – as it was politically divided."
939:
914:
Nothing much more to report. Mostly queries rather than issues. Close to support.
706:
679:
661:
639:
635:
528:
483:
270:"took long enough to reach Jefferson City" → 'took so long to reach Jefferson City'.
204:
109:
81:
53:
1173:
with defensive works prepared by one of Grant's militia regiments the night before"
1089:"Blair's brigade was sent to Kansas City" but then he appears as Curtis' left wing
1101:
I've mentioned that his division converged on Price while it followed the Missouri
1229:
why did Ford's brigade and Deitzler's militia withdraw? Outflanked to the south?
1656:
1585:
1441:"which Union troops incorrectly estimated as 10 guns" how many were there then?
705:- the solutions for the more complex issues seem sufficient to me, nicely done.
194:
181:
160:
136:
57:
1499:
7th Kansas Cavalry Regiment" as the sentence isn't clear who they belonged to.
1403:"the main Confederate line" does this refer to Clark's brigade at Potato Hill?
565:"and order to collect available cavalry and move towards Kansas City" Ordered?
389:"the unit and cannon were completely overrun." Does "completely" add anything?
1257:
what troops were the "reinforcements from Hickman Mills" Grant was expecting?
896:"Unpublished research by Bryce Suderow ..." is that notable enough for an FA?
597:
somewhere? Not a term I'm familiar with (outside another article I reviewed).
1035:
suggest "the Confederacy had essentially no chance of prevailing in the war"
482:- I think this is all done. I'm sorry you had to deal with my rough prose.
337:." improve this somewhat, or do I need to take a crack at simplifying this?
1538:- Replies above, I've got a query about if a statement should be removed.
1237:
which formation was 19th Kansas State Militia Infantry Regiment part of?
360:
Done. I'm not entirely sure what my rationale for adding the quotes was.
766:
Why is it the only fact in the entire infobox with an inline citation?
357:"with only a "strong skirmish line"". I think you can lose the quotes.
1305:"Smith's XVI Corps began a movement towards Independence" from where?
1331:
This batch should hopefully be addressed, except one I can't answer.
1110:
Clarified using Collins - 15 miles from the Missouri to Hickman Mills
864:"1865 depiction of..." avoid starting even fragments with a numeral.
408:
Done. I'm slightly surprised there's not an enwiki link for the term
39:
Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
245:
Forgot to remove that when I rewrote the opening sentence; gone now
622:"was to make its south via the Harrisonville Road" Make it south?
171:
is The Big Blue Battlefield Park separate from the NRHP listing? (
405:"had heard rumors from stragglers". A wikt link for "straggler"?
1314:
Down to October 23: Pleasonton crosses the river. More to come.
1285:
suggest "McNeil's and Sanborn's brigades successfully attacked"
580:
Linked. And italicized since it's the title of a printed work
746:
It was a minor point, I think your explanation is just fine.
557:
Some more names and terms could be linked in image captions?
1391:
Continued from October 23: Pleasonton crosses the river
856:"found Hinkle's Ford. Hinkle's Ford was" repetitive.
614:"and begin firing into the Confederate flank" Began?
549:"to the southwestern Missouri" Why definite article?
585:
Missouri River is linked twice in the article body.
452:"after the campaign ended". Consider deleting this.
1277:"the Confederates had crossed the Big Blue" where?
1419:"which provided a significant firepower advantage
1676:The above discussion is preserved as an archive.
801:"garrison could be reinforced" could he, or was?
203:says yes but it's unreliable and cannot be used.
1421:over the single-shot rifles of the Confederates.
1169:suggest "Jennison's brigade since around 09:00,
150:pass, sources look good, no source checks done (
43:. No further edits should be made to this page.
1682:No further edits should be made to this page.
1655:template in place on the talk page until the
809:"not armed or only poorly armed" why "only"?
242:"The Battle of Byram's Ford," Why the comma?
29:The following is an archived discussion of a
8:
575:Official Records of the War of the Rebellion
262:"Price's army reached Texas". Mention when.
883:Yes. Linked in both the lead and the body
41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
1297:from Independence towards Hickman Mills"
1063:Done, although I do like my oxford commas
444:"was very incomplete". Is "very" needed?
321:"He then formed a plan". Delete "then".
104:, and the second as an extension of the
1189:suggest "Jennison's stubborn defence."
234:"Union Victory": why the upper case V?
905:"the dual defeats" no need for "dual"
825:enough by the sources to add the "the"
254:: → ' Union resistance led Price to'.
18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates
7:
1247:who had crossed at the southern ford
851:Yes, around would be better. Added
1436:good way to provide more distances
880:Is there a link for wagon train?!
24:
830:"stand at the Little Blue" -: -->
552:I'm not entirely sure. Removed.
294:"6 miles (9.7 km)" Looks like
265:Added in the lead and the body
250:" Union forces led Price to".
1:
1507:"and the Battle of the Blue"
1232:Order from Curtis. Clarified
106:Second Battle of Independence
1308:16 miles to the east. Added
298:to me. Similarly elsewhere.
1650:featured article candidates
839:What's a "signal officer"?
102:Battle of Little Blue River
31:featured article nomination
1699:
1669:03:39, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
1626:03:31, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1612:03:31, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1597:03:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1562:01:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1548:00:50, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1526:22:35, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
1481:03:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1467:01:09, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
1384:22:09, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
1366:20:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
819:Department of the Missouri
625:Was missing the word "way"
1341:03:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
1324:07:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
1135:11:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
968:10:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
948:04:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
926:21:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
891:Went with "further south"
784:10:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
758:10:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
715:02:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
688:00:17, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
670:02:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
648:01:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
537:01:39, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
221:Support from Gog the Mild
213:03:40, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
188:02:58, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
167:02:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
143:21:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
118:21:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
90:21:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
1679:Please do not modify it.
1602:Yep, please do. Cheers,
1516:That's me finally done.
1240:Blair's brigade. Added.
963:Keep wearing the mask...
921:Keep wearing the mask...
779:Keep wearing the mask...
753:Keep wearing the mask...
512:09:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
492:04:23, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
470:21:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
36:Please do not modify it.
1471:This has been removed.
1269:resistance led Shelby"
527:I'll have a look soon.
1552:All good, supporting.
73:Battle of Byram's Ford
447:Not really. Removed.
71:
1558:click to talk to me
1522:click to talk to me
1463:click to talk to me
1380:click to talk to me
1320:click to talk to me
1131:click to talk to me
817:Our article is at
335:Army of the Border
1570:Nominator comment
1510:Oops. Corrected.
1265:suggest "but the
966:
924:
875:Went with elected
782:
756:
588:oops. Corrected.
92:
1690:
1681:
1654:
1648:
1645:, and leave the
1576:FAC coordinators
1537:
1406:YEs. Clarified.
1355:
987:Lead and overall
960:
958:The Rambling Man
937:
934:The Rambling Man
918:
916:The Rambling Man
776:
774:The Rambling Man
750:
748:The Rambling Man
721:Support from TRM
481:
198:
184:
163:
139:
79:
64:) 8 August 2021
48:The article was
38:
1698:
1697:
1693:
1692:
1691:
1689:
1688:
1687:
1686:
1677:
1652:
1646:
1624:
1595:
1572:
1546:
1531:
1479:
1364:
1349:
1339:
981:
956:at this point.
946:
931:
723:
646:
595:Ford (crossing)
560:Added a handful
524:
490:
475:
296:false precision
223:
211:
192:
182:
161:
137:
124:Image licensing
116:
88:
76:
34:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
1696:
1694:
1685:
1684:
1672:
1671:
1659:goes through.
1631:
1630:
1629:
1628:
1620:
1591:
1571:
1568:
1567:
1566:
1565:
1564:
1542:
1514:
1513:
1512:
1511:
1505:
1504:
1503:
1492:
1491:
1490:
1489:
1488:
1487:
1486:
1485:
1484:
1483:
1475:
1457:Yes, I would.
1448:
1447:
1446:
1445:
1439:
1438:
1437:
1430:
1429:
1428:
1417:
1416:
1415:
1409:
1408:
1407:
1401:
1400:
1399:
1389:
1388:
1387:
1386:
1369:
1368:
1360:
1346:
1345:
1344:
1343:
1335:
1312:
1311:
1310:
1309:
1303:
1302:
1301:
1291:
1290:
1289:
1283:
1282:
1281:
1275:
1274:
1273:
1263:
1262:
1261:
1255:
1254:
1253:
1243:
1242:
1241:
1235:
1234:
1233:
1227:
1226:
1225:
1219:
1218:
1217:
1211:
1210:
1209:
1203:
1202:
1201:
1195:
1194:
1193:
1187:
1186:
1185:
1179:
1178:
1177:
1167:
1166:
1165:
1159:
1158:
1157:
1151:
1150:
1149:
1142:
1141:
1123:
1122:
1121:
1120:
1113:
1112:
1111:
1104:
1103:
1102:
1096:
1095:
1094:
1087:
1086:
1085:
1081:
1074:
1073:
1072:
1066:
1065:
1064:
1058:
1057:
1056:
1050:
1049:
1048:
1042:
1041:
1040:
1033:
1032:
1031:
1024:
1023:
1019:
1018:
1017:
1016:
1008:
1007:
1006:
998:
997:
996:
989:
988:
980:
974:
973:
972:
971:
970:
942:
912:
911:
910:
909:
903:
902:
901:
894:
893:
892:
886:
885:
884:
878:
877:
876:
870:
869:
868:
862:
861:
860:
854:
853:
852:
846:
845:
844:
837:
836:
835:
831:"stand there"
828:
827:
826:
815:
814:
813:
807:
806:
805:
804:Was. Changed.
799:
798:
797:
790:
789:
788:
787:
786:
764:
763:
762:
761:
760:
733:
732:
731:
722:
719:
718:
717:
699:
698:
697:
696:
695:
694:
693:
692:
691:
690:
653:
652:
651:
650:
642:
628:
627:
626:
620:
619:
618:
612:
611:
610:
603:
602:
601:
591:
590:
589:
583:
582:
581:
571:
570:
569:
563:
562:
561:
555:
554:
553:
547:
546:
545:
539:
523:
520:
519:
518:
517:
516:
515:
514:
495:
494:
486:
459:
458:
457:
456:
450:
449:
448:
442:
441:
440:
434:
433:
432:
425:
424:
423:
422:
421:
420:
412:
411:
410:
409:
403:
402:
401:
395:
394:
393:
386:
385:
384:
383:
382:
381:
373:
372:
371:
370:
363:
362:
361:
354:
353:
352:
351:
350:
349:
341:
340:
339:
338:
327:
326:
325:
318:
317:
316:
315:
314:
313:
305:
304:
303:
302:
292:
291:
290:
284:
283:
282:
276:
275:
274:
268:
267:
266:
260:
259:
258:
248:
247:
246:
240:
239:
238:
237:I have no idea
232:
231:
230:
222:
219:
218:
217:
216:
215:
207:
169:
145:
112:
94:
93:
84:
80:Nominator(s):
75:
70:
69:
46:
45:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1695:
1683:
1680:
1674:
1673:
1670:
1666:
1662:
1658:
1651:
1644:
1640:
1636:
1633:
1632:
1627:
1623:
1619:
1615:
1614:
1613:
1609:
1605:
1601:
1600:
1599:
1598:
1594:
1590:
1586:
1584:
1582:
1580:
1577:
1569:
1563:
1559:
1555:
1551:
1550:
1549:
1545:
1541:
1535:
1530:
1529:
1528:
1527:
1523:
1519:
1509:
1508:
1506:
1501:
1500:
1498:
1495:suggest "The
1494:
1493:
1482:
1478:
1474:
1470:
1469:
1468:
1464:
1460:
1456:
1455:
1454:
1453:
1452:
1451:
1450:
1449:
1443:
1442:
1440:
1434:
1433:
1431:
1425:
1424:
1422:
1418:
1413:
1412:
1410:
1405:
1404:
1402:
1397:
1396:
1394:
1393:
1392:
1385:
1381:
1377:
1373:
1372:
1371:
1370:
1367:
1363:
1359:
1353:
1348:
1347:
1342:
1338:
1334:
1330:
1329:
1328:
1327:
1326:
1325:
1321:
1317:
1307:
1306:
1304:
1299:
1298:
1296:
1292:
1287:
1286:
1284:
1279:
1278:
1276:
1271:
1270:
1268:
1264:
1259:
1258:
1256:
1251:
1250:
1248:
1244:
1239:
1238:
1236:
1231:
1230:
1228:
1223:
1222:
1220:
1215:
1214:
1212:
1207:
1206:
1204:
1199:
1198:
1196:
1191:
1190:
1188:
1183:
1182:
1180:
1175:
1174:
1172:
1168:
1163:
1162:
1160:
1155:
1154:
1152:
1147:
1146:
1144:
1143:
1139:
1138:
1137:
1136:
1132:
1128:
1117:
1116:
1114:
1109:
1108:
1105:
1100:
1099:
1097:
1091:
1090:
1088:
1082:
1079:
1078:
1075:
1070:
1069:
1067:
1062:
1061:
1059:
1054:
1053:
1051:
1046:
1045:
1043:
1037:
1036:
1034:
1029:
1028:
1026:
1025:
1021:
1020:
1013:
1012:
1009:
1003:
1002:
999:
994:
993:
991:
990:
986:
985:
984:
979:Support by PM
978:
975:
969:
964:
959:
955:
951:
950:
949:
945:
941:
935:
930:
929:
928:
927:
922:
917:
907:
906:
904:
898:
897:
895:
890:
889:
887:
882:
881:
879:
874:
873:
871:
866:
865:
863:
858:
857:
855:
850:
849:
847:
841:
840:
838:
833:
832:
829:
823:
822:
820:
816:
811:
810:
808:
803:
802:
800:
794:
793:
791:
785:
780:
775:
771:
770:
768:
767:
765:
759:
754:
749:
745:
744:
742:
737:
736:
734:
729:
728:
725:
724:
720:
716:
712:
708:
704:
701:
700:
689:
685:
681:
677:
676:
673:
672:
671:
667:
663:
659:
658:
657:
656:
655:
654:
649:
645:
641:
637:
632:
631:
629:
624:
623:
621:
616:
615:
613:
607:
606:
604:
599:
598:
596:
592:
587:
586:
584:
579:
578:
576:
572:
567:
566:
564:
559:
558:
556:
551:
550:
548:
543:
542:
540:
538:
534:
530:
526:
525:
521:
513:
509:
505:
501:
500:
499:
498:
497:
496:
493:
489:
485:
479:
474:
473:
472:
471:
467:
463:
454:
453:
451:
446:
445:
443:
438:
437:
435:
430:
429:
427:
426:
418:
417:
416:
415:
414:
413:
407:
406:
404:
399:
398:
396:
392:Nope, removed
391:
390:
388:
387:
379:
378:
377:
376:
375:
374:
367:
366:
364:
359:
358:
356:
355:
347:
346:
345:
344:
343:
342:
336:
331:
330:
328:
323:
322:
320:
319:
311:
310:
309:
308:
307:
306:
300:
299:
297:
293:
288:
287:
285:
280:
279:
277:
272:
271:
269:
264:
263:
261:
256:
255:
253:
249:
244:
243:
241:
236:
235:
233:
228:
227:
225:
224:
220:
214:
210:
206:
202:
196:
191:
190:
189:
186:
185:
178:
174:
170:
168:
165:
164:
157:
153:
149:
148:Source review
146:
144:
141:
140:
133:
129:
126:looks good. (
125:
122:
121:
120:
119:
115:
111:
107:
103:
98:
91:
87:
83:
78:
77:
74:
68:
66:
63:
59:
55:
51:
44:
42:
37:
32:
27:
26:
19:
1678:
1675:
1635:Closing note
1634:
1573:
1554:Peacemaker67
1534:Peacemaker67
1518:Peacemaker67
1515:
1496:
1459:Peacemaker67
1420:
1390:
1376:Peacemaker67
1352:Peacemaker67
1316:Peacemaker67
1313:
1294:
1266:
1246:
1170:
1127:Peacemaker67
1124:
982:
976:
953:
913:
900:circumstance
741:Byram's Ford
702:
678:Good to me!
504:Gog the Mild
478:Gog the Mild
462:Gog the Mild
460:
251:
180:
159:
147:
135:
123:
99:
95:
49:
47:
35:
28:
1093:added that
400:Footnoted.
1643:WP:FAC/ar
1639:candidate
843:"signal".
617:Corrected
439:Rephrased
1661:Ian Rose
1637:: This
1618:Hog Farm
1616:Thanks!
1604:Ian Rose
1589:Hog Farm
1540:Hog Farm
1473:Hog Farm
1427:implied)
1358:Hog Farm
1333:Hog Farm
977:Comments
940:Hog Farm
707:FunkMonk
680:FunkMonk
662:FunkMonk
640:Hog Farm
636:FunkMonk
529:FunkMonk
484:Hog Farm
252:Optional
205:Hog Farm
110:Hog Farm
82:Hog Farm
54:Ian Rose
50:promoted
954:support
908:Removed
812:Removed
703:Support
455:Removed
324:Removed
312:Agreed.
229:Removed
1140:Battle
1084:window
600:Linked
195:Buidhe
183:buidhe
162:buidhe
138:buidhe
58:FACBot
1502:Added
1497:Union
1295:south
1267:stout
1039:truce
609:here.
593:Link
573:Link
568:Fixed
16:<
1665:talk
1622:Talk
1608:talk
1593:Talk
1544:Talk
1477:Talk
1398:Done
1362:Talk
1337:Talk
1300:Done
1288:Done
1272:Done
1252:Done
1224:Done
1216:Done
1208:Done
1200:Done
1192:Done
1176:Done
1164:Done
1071:Done
1055:Done
1047:Done
1030:Done
1022:Body
1005:KSM.
944:Talk
867:Done
834:Done
711:talk
684:talk
666:talk
644:Talk
533:talk
522:Funk
508:talk
488:Talk
466:talk
431:Done
289:Done
281:Done
209:Talk
201:This
114:Talk
86:Talk
62:talk
56:via
1657:bot
1423:"?
1249:,"
1171:but
52:by
1667:)
1653:}}
1647:{{
1610:)
1578::
1560:)
1524:)
1465:)
1382:)
1322:)
1133:)
821:.
713:)
686:)
668:)
638:.
577:?
535:)
510:)
468:)
179:)
175:·
158:)
154:·
134:)
130:·
67:.
33:.
1663:(
1606:(
1574:@
1556:(
1536::
1532:@
1520:(
1461:(
1378:(
1354::
1350:@
1318:(
1129:(
965:)
961:(
936::
932:@
923:)
919:(
781:)
777:(
755:)
751:(
709:(
682:(
664:(
531:(
506:(
480::
476:@
464:(
197::
193:@
177:c
173:t
156:c
152:t
132:c
128:t
60:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.