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is accurate. So for example File:Mgr_François_Pallu.jpg has a life+70 years tag which covers its status in France, and also has a published before 1928 tag meant to cover its status in the US. However, because there is no publication date provided, we can't verify it was published before 1928. ("Publication" has a particular meaning in US copyright law, and simply being an old image doesn't necessarily mean it satisfies that - an image could be old and never officially published). So for that image, if you can find
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Essentially we need the image description page (which is the Wikimedia Commons page) to include tags indicating why the work is either freely licensed or in the public domain in both the US and in its country of origin, and also have sufficient information for us to be able to verify that the tagging
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This has been open for more than three weeks and has yet to pick up a support. Unless it attracts considerable movement towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived.
293:, 1928. The painter's name is Huang Xiaoquan (黄小泉), and his death date is not known. Huang Xiaoquan was hired to paint the figures, so arguably a work for hire. I am happy to err on the safe side and remove this image. 100:
This article is about the first Catholic bishop of Chinese ethnicity, who was active during the 17th century. This is my first FAC. As no one have agreed to mentor me, I decide to be bold and give it ago. Cheers,
266: 377:: since the collector died in 1715, even if we assume it is unpublished, it would pass by the strictest "120 years since their creation" rule for unpublished images. Am I correct? 225: 541:
that says the painting was made in 1653, and that the work was re-canvased and placed in a new stretcher in the 19th century. Latest auction was 2019. Cheers, --
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https://download.thereformedcatholic.org/%E7%BE%85%E9%A6%AC%E5%85%AC%E6%95%99%20Romanism%20Catholic/%E4%B8%8D%E5%BE%97%E5%B7%B2_%E9%99%84%E4%BA%8C%E7%A7%8D_
40: 173:, thanks for the image review. The entire "tagging" thing is new to me, as I just scrape whatever is there on Wikimedia Commons. I will try my best. 753: 30: 17: 764: 216:
The rationale would be that it was collected somewhere between 1642 and 1715, implying that it was definitely published before 1928.
277:– If you look very closely to the image itself, it dates "1685" at the bottom right corner. If we can't use this, may I suggest 262: 539:
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/philippe-de-champaigne-bruxelles-1602-paris-1674--%20%20%20%2019-c-a3a4bfd866%7Chere}}
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File:临汤若望〈耶穌方釘刑架像〉.png: possible to translate the information on the image description page? Looking to verify the tagging
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Understood. Please see updated response-- I think there was a slight edit conflict in the last few minutes. Cheers, --
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If it was indeed unpublished, you would be correct. What is the first publication that can be identified?
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has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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I cannot identify a first publication. Can we just treat it as unpublished? Cheers, --
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is the link. The description is also given on the page. A part of the description says
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I think we just need to fix the commons "tagging"... and it will be all right?
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File:Luo_Wenzao_(Gregory_Lopez).jpg is tagged as potentially non-public domain
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You are very correct. Thanks for removing the graphic templates. Cheers, --
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Copies and Analysis of the Images Presented by Johann Adam Schall von Bell
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Copies and Analysis of the Images Presented by Johann Adam Schall von Bell
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File:Mandatum_seu_Edictum,_Charles_Maigrot.jpg is incorrectly tagged.
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File:Mgr_François_Pallu.jpg: when and where was this first published?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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as they are known to cause issues with loading time of FAC page.
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Collection numérique : Collection Gaignières (histoire de France)
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Collectionneur : Gaignières, Roger de (1642-1715). Collectionneur
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confirmed publication before 1928, then the image is fine.
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is a copy of it at the Chinese Wikisource project. {{url=
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Let me know if I got it right. Many thanks. Cheers, --
245:Source《臨湯若望進呈圖像說》(The source is from a text called 521:This one also needs info on pre-1928 publication. 457:Suggest copying the translation above to Commons. 287:– I have looked into where it is from. It is from 205:Description : Collection numérique : France-Chine 791:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 595:: I intend to upload a different image from DDB. 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 726:Petition to have this FAC archived. Cheers, -- 593:File:Mandatum_seu_Edictum,_Charles_Maigrot.jpg 297:File:Mandatum_seu_Edictum,_Charles_Maigrot.jpg 797:No further edits should be made to this page. 770:template in place on the talk page until the 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 643:, please avoid using graphic templates like 500:File:Mgr François Pallu, évêque de Chine.jpg 279:File:Mgr François Pallu, évêque de Chine.jpg 199:Référence bibliographique : Gaignières, 1420 185:– I tried looking into BNF and I found it. 502:, hope the new one is in US public domain. 299:- We could find an alternative image here 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 473:Translation added to Commons. Cheers, -- 290:Collection of Figures of Qing Scholars 235:Description 中文:临汤若望〈耶穌方釘刑架像〉(Copy of 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 375:File:Luo_Wenzao_(Gregory_Lopez).jpg 228:provides the following information: 183:File:Luo_Wenzao_(Gregory_Lopez).jpg 24: 257:The text, which I translated as 1: 682:11:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 663:10:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 639:, as per the instructions at 627:14:35, 16 December 2023 (UTC) 586:06:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 555:05:45, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 531:04:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 487:05:34, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 467:04:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 426:05:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 406:04:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC) 370:14:04, 16 December 2023 (UTC) 325:07:32, 16 December 2023 (UTC) 177:I will add the alt text soon. 163:05:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC) 115:09:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC) 94:09:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC) 784:18:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC) 740:10:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC) 722:00:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC) 304:Deutsche Digitale Bibliothek 765:featured article candidates 703:21:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC) 496:File:Mgr_François_Pallu.jpg 275:File:Mgr_François_Pallu.jpg 261:, is in the public domain. 252:Author 楊光先 (Yang Guangxian) 237:Johann Adam Schall von Bell 31:featured article nomination 814: 602:File:Maigrot, Mandatum.png 285:File:吳歷.jpg needs a US tag 239:'s "Crucifixion of Jesus") 226:Its wikimedia commons page 148:File:吳歷.jpg needs a US tag 708::( Understood. Cheers, -- 794:Please do not modify it. 208:Rights  : Public domain 80:Nominator(s): Cheers, -- 36:Please do not modify it. 537:I found a source {{url= 438:confirmed before 1928. 436:File:临汤若望〈耶穌方釘刑架像〉.png 222:File:临汤若望〈耶穌方釘刑架像〉.png 563:I intend to remove 242:Date1 January 1664 64:) 12 January 2024 730:The Lonely Pather 712:The Lonely Pather 672:The Lonely Pather 617:The Lonely Pather 576:The Lonely Pather 545:The Lonely Pather 477:The Lonely Pather 416:The Lonely Pather 360:The Lonely Pather 315:The Lonely Pather 105:The Lonely Pather 96: 84:The Lonely Pather 805: 796: 769: 763: 760:, and leave the 732: 714: 688:Coordinator note 674: 652: 646: 619: 594: 578: 566: 547: 501: 497: 479: 437: 434:Publication for 418: 376: 362: 355: 317: 298: 286: 280: 276: 223: 184: 107: 86: 79: 48:The article was 38: 813: 812: 808: 807: 806: 804: 803: 802: 801: 792: 767: 761: 728: 710: 690: 670: 650: 644: 637:TheLonelyPather 615: 608:at the bottom). 592: 574: 572:Done.Cheers, -- 564: 543: 499: 495: 475: 435: 414: 374: 358: 349: 313: 296: 284: 278: 274: 221: 215: 182: 178: 125:Suggest adding 103: 82: 76: 34: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 811: 809: 800: 799: 787: 786: 774:goes through. 745: 743: 742: 724: 689: 686: 685: 684: 634: 633: 632: 631: 630: 629: 611: 610: 609: 597: 596: 589: 588: 569: 568: 560: 559: 558: 557: 534: 533: 510: 509: 508: 507: 506: 505: 504: 503: 492: 491: 490: 489: 470: 469: 446: 445: 444: 443: 442: 441: 440: 439: 431: 430: 429: 428: 409: 408: 385: 384: 383: 382: 381: 380: 379: 378: 342: 341: 340: 339: 328: 327: 309: 308: 307: 294: 282: 271: 270: 255: 254: 253: 250: 243: 240: 230: 229: 218: 217: 213: 211: 210: 209: 206: 203: 200: 197: 191: 190: 180: 176: 166: 165: 150: 149: 145: 144: 140: 139: 135: 134: 130: 129: 98: 97: 75: 70: 69: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 810: 798: 795: 789: 788: 785: 781: 777: 773: 766: 759: 755: 751: 748: 747: 746: 741: 737: 733: 731: 725: 723: 719: 715: 713: 707: 706: 705: 704: 700: 696: 687: 683: 679: 675: 673: 667: 666: 665: 664: 660: 656: 649: 642: 638: 628: 624: 620: 618: 612: 607: 603: 599: 598: 591: 590: 587: 583: 579: 577: 571: 570: 562: 561: 556: 552: 548: 546: 540: 536: 535: 532: 528: 524: 520: 519: 518: 517: 516: 515: 514: 513: 512: 511: 494: 493: 488: 484: 480: 478: 472: 471: 468: 464: 460: 456: 455: 454: 453: 452: 451: 450: 449: 448: 447: 433: 432: 427: 423: 419: 417: 411: 410: 407: 403: 399: 395: 394: 393: 392: 391: 390: 389: 388: 387: 386: 373: 372: 371: 367: 363: 361: 353: 348: 347: 346: 345: 344: 343: 337: 332: 331: 330: 329: 326: 322: 318: 316: 310: 305: 301: 295: 292: 291: 283: 273: 272: 268: 264: 260: 256: 251: 248: 244: 241: 238: 234: 233: 232: 231: 227: 220: 219: 212: 207: 204: 201: 198: 195: 194: 193: 192: 188: 181: 175: 174: 172: 168: 167: 164: 160: 156: 152: 151: 147: 146: 142: 141: 137: 136: 132: 131: 128: 124: 123: 122: 121: 117: 116: 112: 108: 106: 95: 91: 87: 85: 78: 77: 74: 71: 68: 66: 63: 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 37: 32: 27: 26: 19: 793: 790: 776:Gog the Mild 750:Closing note 749: 744: 729: 711: 695:Gog the Mild 691: 671: 635: 616: 575: 544: 476: 415: 359: 335: 314: 288: 258: 246: 120:Image review 119: 118: 104: 99: 83: 54:Gog the Mild 49: 47: 35: 28: 565:File:吳歷.jpg 498:changed to 179:Alts added. 523:Nikkimaria 459:Nikkimaria 398:Nikkimaria 352:Nikkimaria 311:Cheers, -- 171:Nikkimaria 155:Nikkimaria 73:Luo Wenzao 758:WP:FAC/ar 754:candidate 302:from the 752:: This 127:alt text 50:archived 655:FrB.TG 641:WP:FAC 58:FACBot 16:< 780:talk 736:talk 718:talk 699:talk 678:talk 659:talk 648:done 623:talk 606:here 600:See 582:talk 551:talk 527:talk 483:talk 463:talk 422:talk 402:talk 366:talk 321:talk 263:Here 187:Here 169:Hi @ 159:talk 111:talk 90:talk 62:talk 56:via 772:bot 336:any 52:by 782:) 768:}} 762:{{ 738:) 720:) 701:) 680:) 661:) 651:}} 645:{{ 625:) 584:) 553:) 529:) 485:) 465:) 424:) 404:) 368:) 323:) 161:) 113:) 101:-- 92:) 67:. 33:. 778:( 734:( 716:( 697:( 676:( 657:( 621:( 580:( 567:. 549:( 525:( 481:( 461:( 420:( 400:( 364:( 354:: 350:@ 319:( 281:? 249:) 157:( 109:( 88:( 60:(

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Knowledge:Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
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Gog the Mild
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Luo Wenzao
The Lonely Pather
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The Lonely Pather
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09:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
alt text
Nikkimaria
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05:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Nikkimaria
Here
Its wikimedia commons page
Johann Adam Schall von Bell
Here
https://download.thereformedcatholic.org/%E7%BE%85%E9%A6%AC%E5%85%AC%E6%95%99%20Romanism%20Catholic/%E4%B8%8D%E5%BE%97%E5%B7%B2_%E9%99%84%E4%BA%8C%E7%A7%8D_
Collection of Figures of Qing Scholars

Deutsche Digitale Bibliothek
The Lonely Pather
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07:32, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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