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453:. I think the length of the article is perfectly fine for a single species of bat. It would be nice, however, to have an image to illustrate the article. Although I wasn't able to find any photographs of the full bat on Google, it looks like there might be published images of the skull. Perhaps you could email the author of the paper which includes the skull images and ask if they could be donated. Just an idea :) 747:– "Females collected on Grande Comore in November were pregnant". If the lead is the only part of the article one read, they'd think that this was November of last year. You have to read the body to see that this means November 2006. To avoid confusion, I think the year should be added to the lead as well. 232:"Miniopterus griveaudi was assessed as "Data Deficient" on the IUCN Red List in 2008, but the account predates the recognition of the species on Anjouan and Madagascar." Again, does the reference cover both parts of the sentence? 248:"Females collected on Grande Comore in November were pregnant, but data on reproduction is limited and suggests individual and inter-island variation." That's not actually a summary of what is said further down the article. 767:
I didn't mention the year because it is not the year that is important, but the season when the females were pregnant. I am open to suggestions for better wording, though—perhaps adding the year is the best option.
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when not reproductively active; the epididymes have to open to transport sperm. Do you think this should be in the article? It seems marginal to me.
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Fully reworded the sentence. It's clearly part of the Afro-Malagasy clade, but relationships among the species within that clade are poorly resolved.
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Could we perhaps have definitions of those technical terms with regards to the skull? Without an article to link to, the reader hasn't got a chance.
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Not sure where though; I have no idea whether this method is limited to bats or whether it perhaps applies in a large subset of vertebrates.
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No, only the first; I added some discussion that is directly sourced from Goodman et al. (2009b) in order to make the point implicitly.
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Thanks. I think Visionholder wrote to Steven Goodman some time ago (though not specifically about this species), without success.
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of African and Malagasy Miniopterus." not sure if this is correct… "any one of the other species"? "any other species"?
208:"M. manavi, M. mahafaliensis, and M. brachytragos have a densely covered uropatagium" Have densely covered uropatagia? 728:. Well written, carefully referenced, and a good job done in making the technical language sufficiently accessible. 553:
But a citation would at least help interested scholars know where to look. Probably not many libraries subscribe to
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That would be too busy, given that four of them may occur in the same place. I will ask Visionholder to make a map.
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Flying bats have mostly been recorded in forests, but this may reflect a lack of survey effort in open areas.
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always nice coming along after Sasata and J Milburn have reviewed. Nothing stands out as easily improved.
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Well, they tend to be nocturnal. I removed the "while it is still light" part, which was redundant.
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I really prefer not to cite things I haven't seen. I'll try to solve this problem on Monday by
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The article has no images to review, but it seems a little on the short side for an FA.
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as a subspecies, Miniopterus minor griveaudi, of the mainland African species M. minor.
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as a subspecies of the mainland African species M. minor, Miniopterus minor griveaudi.
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based on a quick search it appears as if Randolph Peterson is worthy of a redlink
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Until a few years ago, it was thought that there was a single species of small
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I think the article meets the criteria. A range map would be a nice addition.
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why no citation to whatever 1959 paper Harrison published his findings in?
240:"(crown-rump length 14 to 19 mm, 0.6 to 0.7 in)," What does that mean? 175: 682:
Probably not, but that information should be somewhere on Knowledge.
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It is comprehensive, and longer than some other recently passed FAs.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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how about a range map? Maybe a combined one with all the new
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There's non-breaking spaces missing in some short binomials
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Sorry for missing this first time around; I added the link.
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Apparently (Goodman et al. 2010:131), they have convoluted
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How is reproductive activity in male bats determined?
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No, since though there were only two groups in the "
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