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I just got done with my last final exam for school yesterday, and I will try now and commit some effort to finding out more about that image of Shen Kuo. So far there is absolutely nothing on the internet that would provide information on where this picture truly came from. It's looking very bleak to
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that uses the image, but the image used is really just a copy from the JOC/EFR site (they provide the link to it at the bottom of the page). Overall
English Google Image results for Shen Kuo are pathetic. I have found that you can find many more images of Shen Kuo by searching with his actual Chinese
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I did some searching, and that picture is used by multiple websites (at least five). Therefore I think it is safe to conclude that its copyright has expired. If it was under copyright, why are there so many webistes using the exact same image? Even if it hasn't, the image would still qualify under
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I have finally decided, after a long period of failed searching, to just scrap the picture of Shen Kuo and keep his infobox. The Public Domain status of his image cannot be successfully verified, therefore the picture had to go. The lead will just have to do without an image of Shen Kuo, because
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Once again, after some trials and errors (and some serious editing and reorganizing), I am placing this article as a FAC. Shen Kuo's article is very important in the scope of general
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True, but it would look pretty awkward to have no picture in the lead infobox. Speaking of the picture, the other site that had a pic of Shen Kuo on the internet was
Thinkquest, and I have been waiting diligently for word from them on Public Domain status info. Here is what they emailed me
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article meets all of the FA criteria and cridentials, and reads much smoother with rewording of some awkward sentences from before. With the addition of the infobox in the lead, the article looks much better and more polished. Therefore, I am once again nominating this article.--
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there is simply no picture of him online that is sufficient for wikipedia (in a copyright sense). I believe now the article is worthy of FA status, as all image-related issues are now solved with this last picture taken out (there are still plenty of pictures in the article).--
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Wow, I can't believe no one (including myself) noticed that about the Shen Kuo image. I will investigate the Shen Kuo image to see what I can figure out, but for now I have replaced the compass image with a more suitable one; one that has a GNU Free
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Wikimachine has now agreed to add another drawn image to the article! This one he will be doing from scratch, showing Shen Kuo mounted on a horse in military uniform during his command in the campaign against the Tanguts of the Western Xia in 1080-1081
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Yes Zeus, I think it is silly as well about the Shen Kuo image, but as
Pagrashtak has pointed out, there is no direct evidence on the web to suggest that it belongs to the Public Domain. There's nothing I can do, my hands are tied on this
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Holy rusted metal Batman! Check out the new drawing of Shen Kuo! Wikimachine, you are simply awesome. That drawing looks incredible (I like the use of shading you did). Ok, this article rocks now.--
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