479:"The letter Rico receives from Dubois, partly responsible for Rico "crossing the hump" with his training, is shown as a turning point in his development. This is especially true of the parts of his training that involve indoctrination," The "This" that starts the second sentence is a bit unclear. Are they meant to be turning points? I don't think they are all turning points. It was only in the incident with the Dubois letter that Rico rejects a course of action to leave the military. They do help Rico understand the moral framework that underlies his society and why when told he should go out and shoot bugs, he should go out and shoot bugs.
1086:"The concept of the American frontier is also related to the coming-of-age theme. Heinlein's young protagonists attain manhood by confronting a hostile "wilderness" in space. Coming-of-age in a military, alien context is a common theme in Heinlein's earlier works as well. Rico's coming of age has also been described as being related to his relationship with his father;" these hyphens can be tricky but the second and third are both nouns. Shouldn't they be hyphenated the same? (or you could replace the "Rico's coming of age" with "Rico's journey to maturity" or similar, which would spare the phrase from too much wear on the tires.
573:"Panshin, a veteran of the peacetime military, argued that Heinlein glossed over the reality of military life, and that the Terran Federation-Arachnid conflict existed simply because, "Starship troopers are not half so glorious sitting on their butts polishing their weapons for the tenth time for lack of anything else to do." Some of Rico's dialogue in the novel suggests that the novel is contemptuous of a government without an active military." Doesn't Rico Sr. make clear in the "trip to Mars" conversation that the Terran Federation has never fought a war? Do the sources consider that?
1143:"There has been disagreement among commentators over whether the "Federal Service" required in the book is service in the military and its support systems, or work in any government service. Though Heinlein himself has stated the latter is true, most analyses of the text have supported the former position." Isn't this effectively a duplicate of what is stated (likely better) under Allegations of Fascism? I think you should consider merging the two one place or the other (or simply cut this).
507:"The novel is also highly controversial. Heinlein scholar James Gifford called it one of the most controversial science fiction books ever published." refs in wrong order. Also "Starship Troopers has been acknowledged as one of the best known and most influential works of science fiction." and "Heinlein's discussions of his political beliefs were criticized as being "didactic", " and probably more given how many reference chains you use.
1171:"with both protagonists initially bent on destroying insect-like aliens" I don't think that's true of Ender who thinks that if he is to fight in the war, it will be many years in the future, meantime Dragon Army needs to win its next battle. I might phrase it in terms of humanity being at war against the insectoids. I'd use "against" rather than "with", considering what develops concerning the Buggers.
107:, who knows what's what with science-fiction. Since then I've been over the prose again, and have added more views from commentators to the article. Between the large number of sci-fi authors and scholars, I believe I have covered every significant theme among reliable sources. I think I am also supposed to disclose that I am a Wikicup participant. Have at it.
1260:
1600:
I'd disagree with you there, actually; the
Skinnies play such a trivial role in the whole story. The reviewers mostly ignore them, or mention them in passing; they are only "on screen" in the first chapter of the novel; the movie leaves them out; etc etc. If this were not enough, I've have to use the
178:
In dealing with controversial material (which I do a lot of) I find it generally helpful to have lead citations, where these may be found for the summary style statements that the lead generally contains. Otherwise, you spend a very substantial amount of time reinstating content that drive-by editors
547:
review it, but that material has generally been swamped by the flood from high-profile authors and scholarly sources. Nonetheless, there are some in here; the "Ten books of 1959" comes from Damon Knight in F&SF; and
Anthony Boucher founded the Magazine of SF, though his review is not from there.
765:
Actually this is the battle room itself; Hantke makes that quite clear. "The Battle Room appears to be, for now, the last incarnation of the combat prosthesis whose development I have been tracing from
Starship Troopers on." There's a lot more of this, a page or more. If this is rather too highbrow
1424:
I'd normally expect quotes to be given in-line attribution, which doesn't always happen, e.g. "the discussion of political views is a recurring feature of the "ideologically intense" book" - this doesn't explain who actually said the line. In contrast, see "In a 2009 retrospective, Jo Walton wrote
1129:"and that only retired veterans could vote or hold office" Is it necessary to say this? It's not contradicted by the critics, and Rico says (the musings after his conversation with Ace about going career) "as long as you were still in uniform you weren't entitled to vote". (p. 127 of my hardcover)
1008:"Rico enters Officer Candidate School for a second course of training, including further courses in "History and Moral Philosophy"." This might mistakenly imply to the reader that Rico had History and Moral Philosophy during his first course of training, since you haven't mentioned the course yet.
786:. If the source mentions that both enemies are insectoid (after all, "buggers"?), that is worth including. I'm not sure the word "enemies" is the right word given Ender doesn't know he's fighting real beings and from what I recall, the Hive Queen makes it clear that the Buggers did not hate Ender.
663:
You don't very often use dates to say when the commentary on the book occurred. You're closer to the sources than I am, but I have the sense that there's more hostility to the novel today than in
Heinlein's lifetime, but it's hard to separate out when these things were said, especially since it's
1628:
I resisted this above, but if two reviewers are saying something I better take it seriously :) I've added in text attribution in a couple of places, and paraphrased the quotation in another. I'd really not do it for the "overzealous" because it would really disrupt the text; but if you insist, I
1114:
She went on to argue "Heinlein was absolutely at his peak when he wrote this in 1959. He had so much technical stylistic mastery of the craft of writing science fiction that he could and get away with it." I don't quite see what you're doing here. First, single bracket words convey to me you're
471:
Folks don't seem to be clear on this, do they? The novel uses "Carmencita" four times and "Carmen" 12 times, but never in a context that would make it absolutely clear which is the nickname...indeed from the first use, it seems as though "carmen" may have been intended as the nickname. Based on
1719:
Okay, just looking over the source review above, I'm pretty happy with the rationales provided for using most of the sources questioned, the only one that wasn't true for is
Peterson -- the article is an interesting take on the book, so in a way I'd be sorry to see it go, but unless I missed
1331:
It's an interview with
Steakley; therefore, for Steakley's own opinion, it's a reliable source. Steakley himself is a Sci-Fi author, whose work is notable enough to have an article; therefore, if he says in an interview that it was directly influenced by Starship Troopers, that seems worth
1040:"His training, both at boot camp and at officer candidate school," I'm minded to say that since you capitalize Officer Candidate School in the plot summary you should do so here, but I can see it either way since a plot summary is a bit different from the rest of the article.
227:
I'm not certain about this: MOS:LQ, and what I remember of high-school grammar, says that if the punctuation was part of the quote, then it should be included within the quotation marks. As far as I can tell, I have adhered to this: MacLeod is ending his sentence there, for
145:
Removing the comma would certainly help, as one could interpret it as "The novel explores...critiques U.S. society of the 1950s...and advocating..." But, I guess that still means that the novel would apply to advocating. Regardless, it is a bit confusing when first reading.
493:"Rico, who does poorly in school," when he meets Mr. Weiss, the placement officer, Rico's pleased by Weiss having his high school transcript, "I had stood high enough without standing so high as to be marked as a greasy grind". He's also slated for Harvard Business School.
1443:
I used a quote without the author's name, instead choosing to cite at the end of that sentence fragment, just to break up the style a bit; otherwise, we have a lot of "he said, she said" going on. If you think it's an issue, I can use in-text attribution in this case as
528:
That's not quite true: I use a number of views expressed in the PITFCS debate, which are from the period 1959 to 1961. The earliest in this article is, I think, from
February 1960; between two and three months after the publication of the full-length book in December
1660:
as "overzealous" or suggested that
Heinlein is a "fanatical warmongering fascist"? I think we should also know, without having to investigate the sources, who (or what publication) considers the book "highly readable" and as having "exciting military episodes".
1511:
section. First sentence is redundant - as "controversial/y" is mentioned 3 times in 3 sentences. Some of the analysis strikes me at first impression as slightly repetitive but on looking again I can't find any bits specifically repeated so not actionable.
130:
In the sentence "The novel explores the theme of coming-of-age, and also critiques U.S. society of the 1950s, arguing that a lack of discipline had led to a moral decline, and advocating corporal and capital punishment", who is doing the "advocating"?
1674:
Re. tone, the novel is certainly one of the most controversial in all sf, and a good deal of material on this is included, but I really didn't come away with a particular feeling for where the editor's sympathies might lie, which is as it should
1409:
Some inconsistency in the use of single and double speechmarks, e.g. "Mico commands a platoon during 'Operation
Royalty': a raid to capture members of the Arachnid' 'brain caste' and 'queens'", but "serving with the platoon known as "Rasczak's
1805:
I've rather unexpectedly accumulated 5 supports rather sooner than I could have hoped for. Source and image reviews have also been completed, and I don't think there's any unresolved comments; so would you mind taking a look at this? Regards,
1632:
I'd probably let it ride if there was only one citation for that sentence but with two it seems to muddy the waters even more -- I don't think it'd hurt too much to lose that descriptor and leave the rest of the sentence as is... Cheers,
1741:
Fair enough. As you said some of the points raised were interesting, which is why I'd included it, but I knew it was borderline. I've just removed all uses; if you think anything else needs to be beefed up to compensate, let me know.
758:" compares the battle room in Ender's Game to Heinlein's prosthetic suits" This isn't terribly clear. It's likely not the battle room itself, but the uniforms worn by the child-soldiers that can "freeze" them if hit by the "weapons".
1780:
I've read the book too. I believe that the article as it stands is ready for
Featured Article Status. I made one small change, switching a link on Eisenhower's nuclear test moratorium to the sub-article that explains the subject.
190:
Sounds good, but in that case, could you reduce the number of citations to one each and only for the controversial stuff? Trust me, nobody will add any cn tags more than that—and if they do, you just revert them and explain why.
1258:
The url is simply a hosting site. The author is described by the Heinlein society as among the first Heinlein scholars. His work on Heinlein, including this particular analysis, has been cited by other scholarly sources: see
362:
I have addressed most of your issues. I will double check the italicization issues, but honestly I've used the citation templates in every case without introducing extra italicization of my own, so not sure what I can do
893:
The reference in the bulleted list to Starship Troopers: Invasion is introduced, including link, as if it had not been mentioned before when in fact it is mentioned a couple of paragraphs before. I would straighten this
1206:
Many thanks, as always. I've addressed all your comments, I believe. If you have the time, would you mind taking a look at Ealdgyth's source comments below? I got the impression she wanted more eyes on it. Regards,
224:. For example, "Ken MacLeodstated that 'the political strand in can be described as a dialogue with Heinlein.'" to "Ken MacLeodstated that 'the political strand in can be described as a dialogue with Heinlein'."
642:
Yeah that's beyond my Spanish abilities (not more than 50 words). I've looked, though, and I cannot find sources which mention this; the only one I've found so far is a reading guide from the St. Louis public
744:"Despite the gestures towards women's equality, women are still objects, to be protected, and to fight wars over." This is very opiniony, and it's terribly broad (no pun intended) to be based on a 1979 book.
464:"Carmencita Ibanez" My edition of the book has the last name as Ibañez. Also, Rico refers to her as "Carmen" when he re-encounters her during OCS, making it likely that "Carmencita" is a childhood nickname.
340:. These should be addressed before the article is promoted. Also, at the time this work was first published the ISBN system did not exist - typically in these cases one wouldn't be included in the infobox.
102:
This article is about a hugely popular, hugely influential, and hugely controversial science fiction novel from 1959. It has been through a GA review, and has also had its reception section looked over by
1309:
It's an online news portal for science-related topics, including science fiction; analogous, for instance, to Salon. It's not critical to the article, though, so if you'd rather I removed it, I will do
1115:
supplying words needed to convey a quote's meaning. This seems to be far more than that and include even a quote (which, in allusion to Hchc's comment below, should properly be in single quotes :)
500:
I guess you're right about that part, it struck me as odd, too. The trouble is this is the Magill source speaking. I've removed that phrase at the moment, let me know if it does not read well.
1583:
The manuscript was rejected, prompting Heinlein to cease writing juvenile fiction for Scribner, end his association with the publisher completely, and resume writing books with adult themes.
1340:
445:"Rico is depicted as a man of Filipino ancestry, although there has been disagreement on this matter among fans." It might be worth noting this is not made clear until the end of the novel.
835:
It hasn't really received too much attention in mainstream sources. I've added sources for now, but I'd like your opinion on whether axing that bullet altogether isn't the best option.
650:
Well, never mind then. Pretty sure I've read that somewhere though. I read through whatever analyses of Heinlein my university library had in the 1980s, so it may be an outdated view.
580:
I think Rico senior says that the TF has not fought a war for a while. In general, though, even the sources that are broadly supportive of Heinlein do not appear to mention that fact.
21:
1597:, I think you need to briefly describe what the Skinnies are like -- the uninitiated reader gets an idea of what the Bugs are like, but doesn't really get a feel for the Skinnies.
1576:
Copyedited so pls let me know if I misinterpreted anything or simply if you disagree with my wording -- for the most part I found the prose very engaging. Some outstanding points:
849:
Removed. Given that the last three sub-sections of adaptations are now quite short, I'm wondering if it would make more sense to bring them together into an "Other media" section.
514:
Thanks for pointing that out. It's a consequence, I think, of significant revisions being made to the text. I used search for the string "][", so I should have got them all.
1068:"Heinlein's young protagonists attain manhood by confronting a hostile "wilderness" in space." Very true, but you should make it clear that you're not just talking about
1679:
That's it for now -- I may take another pass and post other comments if they come to mind, but essentially I think this is good work on a tough subject. Cheers,
717:"Though Rico says he finds women "marvelous", he shows no desire for sexual activity; the war seems to have subsumed sex in this respect." This is 1959, and
431:"It is one of the only Heinlein novels which intersperses his typical linear narrative structure with a series of flashbacks." I would say "few", not "only".
1265:. Potentially a little close to the Heinlein society, which is why I have tried to limit its use to cases where it does not seem to be promoting the author.
1625:-- I think it's generally best to attribute inline quotes, even if only phrases; who describes it as "ideologically intense" and a "philosophical novel"?
782:"dedicates his efforts to protection his erstwhile enemies" possibly "devotes his efforts to protect his onetime enemies. I would also pipe somewhere to
44:
1623:
the discussion of political views is a recurring feature of the "ideologically intense" book, which has been categorized as a "philosophical novel"
1299:
621:
I haven't read through the entire article yet, but I'm surprised not to see discussion of the symbolism of the fact that Johnny is named "Rico".
1826:
34:
17:
486:
I think this was a case of a sentence being unintentionally moved by later additions. I've reorganized it a little. Does it read better now?
1837:
1288:
1263:
703:
You sort of dance around the point, but in the Race/gender section, I would more clearly state that the Mobile Infantry is entirely male.
1585:-- if he ended his association with the publisher completely, isn't it redundant to say he stopped writing juvenile fiction for them?
452:
Hmm. I'm not too happy doing this, because there aren't any sources that mention this...d'you think the novel is enough of a source?
1856:
1815:
1792:
1765:
1751:
1729:
1712:
1688:
1642:
1613:
1552:
1527:
1485:
1460:
1434:
1390:
1377:
1356:
1235:
1216:
1194:
1164:
992:
974:
956:
931:
867:
687:
596:
411:
393:
372:
349:
318:
297:
275:
252:
204:
159:
116:
94:
457:
I wouldn't use the novel as a source to say something that would effectively require reading the book to prove. So I'll drop this.
1033:
Hmm. I hadn't counted, I'd just gone off of Gifford; so I've just gone with "several", because saying 12 and citing 13 is dodgy.
1417:
Thanks for pointing this out: I've always been a bit doubtful about quotation styles. I believe I have fixed the inconsistancy.
270:
247:
199:
154:
1756:
I think we're good -- I guess Peterson could be added to ELs but up to you. Happy to support, tks for your hard work. Cheers,
1523:
1451:
NB: I'm generally familiar with the literature around this novel, and the account/analysis here seems balanced and complete.
800:
The last three subsections of the article are in the form of bulleted lists. I would say you should stay with straight prose.
1543:
That's a fair point. I've removed Gifford's statement; probably not adding much, anyhow; and rephrased the first sentence.
1291:
on google scholar, which is probably under counting a bit. Not sure why those were not sfn citations, though. Fixed that.
1150:
Fair enough: I've cut it. You're right, it's rather repetitive. I've also moved the remainder of the paragraph up a bit.
1022:
You mention that Heinlein wrote 13 Scribner's juveniles. The box at the foot of the article lists only twelve. Possibly
337:
1054:"German soldiers in the First World War." I'd go with "World War I" here since it is the more usual American style.
1321:
751:
I've added in-text attribution. Let me know if that is enough, or whether you'd rather I removed it altogether.
1300:
https://web.archive.org/web/20051028142830/http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/books/troopers_book_000610.html
1155:
Hope to finish later today. Don't take the length of this review as reflective. You've done a fine job here.--
1287:. Writer, science fiction critic, influential enough to have been cited frequently. The book in question has
428:
Wehwalt, good to see you here. I was hoping to have you review this. I'll do my best with your suggestions.
134:
The novel itself/Heinlein. "The novel explores....arguing that...and advocating..." How may I clarify this?
587:
I looked at it and what he says is ambiguous. In fact, it's more suggestive of war in Rico Sr's memory.--
1811:
1747:
1708:
1548:
1481:
1373:
1212:
988:
952:
543:
I'd added a few per your comment below; I've added a few more now. I'm sure the mainstream SF magazines
407:
368:
314:
293:
112:
90:
607:"Suvin called it an example of agitprop in favor of military values," this seems an unsourced fragment.
548:
If you think it a problem, I'll try to find more; though the reception section's pretty beefy already.
1122:
Yeah that's just an unintentional error on my part: is all that should have been in square brackets.
389:
345:
1852:
268:
245:
197:
152:
1276:? What makes it a high quality reliable source? Is it the same as the Panshin in the bibliography?
858:
I would favor that. This article is about the book, and lumping them together de-emphasizes it.--
332:
I'm mostly looking at images (see below), but I wanted to flag for your attention MOS issues (eg.
1787:
1761:
1725:
1684:
1638:
1609:
1517:
1456:
1430:
1387:
1353:
728:
Huh, that's a point that had escaped me. The Magill source is quite insistent about it, though...
104:
1231:
1190:
1160:
970:
927:
863:
683:
592:
336:), inconsistencies in citation formatting (eg. some works are italicized and others not), and
76:
1671:
I don't write book articles myself but the structure seems fine, as does the level of detail.
384:
File:StarshipSoldier.jpg: source link is dead. Same with File:Starship_Troopers_(novel).jpg.
1830:
1807:
1743:
1704:
1544:
1477:
1369:
1208:
984:
948:
403:
364:
333:
310:
289:
108:
86:
65:
1601:
novel itself for any material I add; there just isn't substance about them in the reviews.
1273:
424:
I've read the book, I have the book, I've seen the movie, I have opinions. A few comments:
559:"A review in The Herald Tribune " probably the full name of the newspaper should be given.
385:
357:
341:
1720:
something it just doesn't seem clearly to be of the same standard as the others. Cheers,
1047:
Well in my head this was the generic, as with boot camp, but I too can see it both ways..
1829:
has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
536:
Drop in a few more dates then. What about the regular SF magazines, did they review it?
1848:
1800:
1284:
947:
I believe I have either fixed or responded to all the points you have raised. Regards,
304:
283:
263:
240:
192:
147:
57:
1579:
Thanks: I've looked over all of your changes, and I don't take issue with any of them.
1782:
1757:
1736:
1721:
1698:
1680:
1634:
1605:
1538:
1513:
1471:
1452:
1426:
1383:
1363:
1349:
1248:
842:
Feel free. I don't consider game adaptions etc 100 percent necessary to the article.
766:
for Knowledge (I'm not sure I understand it myself...) I could just remove that bit.
1572:, and seen the Paul Verhoeven film, and like them all for different reasons... ;-)
1227:
1201:
1186:
1156:
966:
942:
923:
859:
783:
679:
588:
521:
The section marked Reception says almost nothing about how it was reviewed in 1959.
1844:
61:
1313:
Just for the record, this has been removed following Ian Rose's comments below.
1322:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080606225719/http://johnsteakley.com/inter.html
628:
This isn't in any of the sources that I have seen; what are you referring to?
965:
OK, I will give its second look today or tomorrow. Just replying for now.--
1093:
I've gone with the hyphens, since I've used journey later in the sentence.
814:
I would make clearer that Uchū no Senshi was based on Starship Troopers.
1339:
I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors.
1100:"Rico's history teacher" I would spell out History and Moral Philosophy.
922:
That's it for now. Ping me when you want me to give it a second look.--
179:
have removed saying "unsourced," or removing cn tags for that material.
221:
983:
Take your time. Just so you know, I've responded to your responses.
43:
Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
908:
You are not consistent on whether you italicize the names of games.
1568:
Recusing from coord duties -- FWIW I've read this, and Haldeman's
262:
And that is all for now. Maybe I will comment more, I don't know.
1476:
Thanks for the support. I've responded to your points. Regards,
635:
Rico means "Rich" in Spanish, and he was rich (likely still is).
1425:
that Starship Troopers was "military SF done extremely well.""
664:
sometimes sort of hidden behind "commentators say" or the like.
793:
I've added the link, and used "targets" in place of "enemies".
209:
My experience says otherwise, but okay. I've trimmed the refs.
1368:
Many thanks for the review. I have addressed your comments.
472:
common sense, though, I've gone along with your suggestion.
126:
This will probably be a quick review. Anyways, here goes:
721:
hadn't happened yet. There wasn't much sex in SF in 1959.
1274:
http://www.panshin.com/critics/Dimension/hdcontents.html
69:
1382:
I'll leave these out for other reviewers to consider.
175:
Citations in the lead? Is there any reason for this?
1604:Okay, I won't lose sleep over that one... Cheers,
1249:http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/ftp/fedrlsvc.pdf
671:Fair point. I've added dates in a few more places.
1864:The above discussion is preserved as an archive.
1015:I've added a mention earlier, with Dubois' letter
1658:praise of the military and approval of violence
47:. No further edits should be made to this page.
828:The second in that bulleted list is unsourced.
1870:No further edits should be made to this page.
1843:template in place on the talk page until the
1003:Second read. I'm doing some hands-on editing.
33:The following is an archived discussion of a
8:
402:I have added archive links for both images.
45:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
1629:could remove that descriptor altogether.
1588:You're right. I've removed that fragment.
164:I've tweaked the wording: does this help?
1226:Very well done on a difficult subject.--
1026:, but that was later and not Scribner's.
338:Knowledge:Review_aggregators#Limitations
1507:a nice read. Only quibble is para 2 of
1406:Nice work. Some minor points below...
18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates
7:
1703:responded. Thanks for the review!
28:
1348:Otherwise everything looks good.
220:Some stuff needs to be fixed per
1324:a high quality reliable source?
1302:a high quality reliable source?
1251:a high quality reliable source?
614:Neglected to duplicate the ref.
288:I've responded to your points.
1343:shows no copyright violations.
1:
1656:Again, who exactly describes
1838:featured article candidates
1242:Source review from Ealdgyth
239:Oh, well I'm a true idiot.
35:featured article nomination
1887:
1857:20:54, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
1816:17:48, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
1793:23:01, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1766:23:16, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1752:16:12, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1730:15:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1713:14:09, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1689:13:00, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1643:15:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1614:15:11, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
1553:14:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
1528:08:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
1236:06:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
1217:05:50, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
1195:21:03, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
1165:17:51, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
1136:You're right, not needed.
868:09:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
597:09:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
319:06:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
298:06:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
276:21:05, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
253:12:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
205:12:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
160:12:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
117:17:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
95:17:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
1867:Please do not modify it.
1486:12:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
1461:12:13, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
1435:08:15, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
1391:11:58, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
1378:08:30, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
1357:14:31, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
1272:Who is the publisher of
993:12:45, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
975:08:11, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
957:16:58, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
932:10:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
696:More's always welcome :)
688:17:29, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
412:09:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
394:00:37, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
373:09:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
350:00:37, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
325:Comments from Nikkimaria
40:Please do not modify it.
68:) 20:54, 25 July 2017
1776:Support from Hawkeye7
1497:Support from Casliber
1401:Support from Hchc2009
773:No, I'd let it stand.
309:I've responded, FYI.
735:Well, so be it then.
420:Comments by Wehwalt
122:Comments from Riley
1070:Starship Troopers
98:
77:Starship Troopers
22:Starship Troopers
1878:
1869:
1842:
1836:
1833:, and leave the
1804:
1790:
1785:
1740:
1702:
1564:Support from Ian
1542:
1475:
1367:
1283:Yeah, same guy.
1205:
946:
361:
308:
287:
266:
243:
195:
150:
83:
52:The article was
42:
1886:
1885:
1881:
1880:
1879:
1877:
1876:
1875:
1874:
1865:
1840:
1834:
1798:
1788:
1783:
1778:
1734:
1696:
1570:The Forever War
1566:
1536:
1499:
1469:
1403:
1361:
1244:
1199:
940:
821:Added a little.
422:
355:
327:
302:
281:
273:
264:
250:
241:
202:
193:
157:
148:
124:
80:
38:
26:
25:
24:
12:
11:
5:
1884:
1882:
1873:
1872:
1860:
1859:
1847:goes through.
1819:
1818:
1777:
1774:
1773:
1772:
1771:
1770:
1769:
1768:
1717:
1716:
1715:
1677:
1676:
1672:
1669:
1668:
1667:
1666:
1665:
1654:
1653:
1652:
1651:
1650:
1649:
1648:
1647:Okay, removed.
1620:
1619:
1618:
1617:
1616:
1591:
1590:
1589:
1580:
1565:
1559:
1558:
1557:
1556:
1555:
1531:
1530:
1498:
1492:
1491:
1490:
1489:
1488:
1464:
1463:
1448:
1447:
1446:
1445:
1438:
1437:
1421:
1420:
1419:
1418:
1412:
1411:
1407:
1402:
1399:
1398:
1397:
1396:
1395:
1394:
1393:
1345:
1344:
1336:
1335:
1334:
1333:
1326:
1325:
1317:
1316:
1315:
1314:
1311:
1304:
1303:
1295:
1294:
1293:
1292:
1285:Alexei Panshin
1278:
1277:
1269:
1268:
1267:
1266:
1253:
1252:
1243:
1240:
1239:
1238:
1221:
1220:
1219:
1183:
1182:
1181:
1180:
1179:
1173:
1172:
1168:
1167:
1153:
1152:
1151:
1145:
1144:
1140:
1139:
1138:
1137:
1131:
1130:
1126:
1125:
1124:
1123:
1117:
1116:
1111:
1110:
1109:
1108:
1102:
1101:
1097:
1096:
1095:
1094:
1088:
1087:
1083:
1082:
1081:
1080:
1074:
1073:
1065:
1064:
1063:
1062:
1056:
1055:
1051:
1050:
1049:
1048:
1042:
1041:
1037:
1036:
1035:
1034:
1028:
1027:
1019:
1018:
1017:
1016:
1010:
1009:
1005:
1004:
1001:
1000:
999:
998:
997:
996:
995:
978:
977:
960:
959:
935:
934:
919:
918:
917:
916:
910:
909:
905:
904:
903:
902:
896:
895:
890:
889:
888:
887:
886:
885:
884:
883:
882:
881:
880:
879:
878:
877:
871:
870:
851:
850:
844:
843:
837:
836:
830:
829:
825:
824:
823:
822:
816:
815:
811:
810:
809:
808:
802:
801:
797:
796:
795:
794:
788:
787:
779:
778:
777:
776:
775:
774:
768:
767:
760:
759:
755:
754:
753:
752:
746:
745:
741:
740:
739:
738:
737:
736:
730:
729:
723:
722:
714:
713:
712:
711:
705:
704:
700:
699:
698:
697:
691:
690:
675:
674:
673:
672:
666:
665:
660:
659:
658:
657:
656:
655:
654:
653:
652:
651:
645:
644:
637:
636:
630:
629:
623:
622:
618:
617:
616:
615:
609:
608:
604:
603:
602:
601:
600:
599:
582:
581:
575:
574:
570:
569:
568:
567:
561:
560:
556:
555:
554:
553:
552:
551:
550:
549:
538:
537:
531:
530:
523:
522:
518:
517:
516:
515:
509:
508:
504:
503:
502:
501:
495:
494:
490:
489:
488:
487:
481:
480:
476:
475:
474:
473:
466:
465:
461:
460:
459:
458:
454:
453:
447:
446:
442:
441:
440:
439:
433:
432:
421:
418:
417:
416:
415:
414:
397:
396:
376:
375:
326:
323:
322:
321:
300:
271:
260:
259:
258:
257:
256:
255:
248:
232:
231:
230:
229:
217:
216:
215:
214:
213:
212:
211:
210:
200:
183:
182:
181:
180:
172:
171:
170:
169:
168:
167:
166:
165:
155:
138:
137:
136:
135:
123:
120:
100:
99:
85:Nominator(s):
79:
74:
73:
50:
49:
29:
27:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1883:
1871:
1868:
1862:
1861:
1858:
1854:
1850:
1846:
1839:
1832:
1828:
1824:
1821:
1820:
1817:
1813:
1809:
1802:
1797:
1796:
1795:
1794:
1791:
1786:
1775:
1767:
1763:
1759:
1755:
1754:
1753:
1749:
1745:
1738:
1733:
1732:
1731:
1727:
1723:
1718:
1714:
1710:
1706:
1700:
1695:
1694:
1693:
1692:
1691:
1690:
1686:
1682:
1673:
1670:
1663:
1662:
1659:
1655:
1646:
1645:
1644:
1640:
1636:
1631:
1630:
1627:
1626:
1624:
1621:
1615:
1611:
1607:
1603:
1602:
1599:
1598:
1596:
1592:
1587:
1586:
1584:
1581:
1578:
1577:
1575:
1574:
1573:
1571:
1563:
1560:
1554:
1550:
1546:
1540:
1535:
1534:
1533:
1532:
1529:
1525:
1522:
1519:
1515:
1510:
1506:
1505:
1501:
1500:
1496:
1493:
1487:
1483:
1479:
1473:
1468:
1467:
1466:
1465:
1462:
1458:
1454:
1450:
1449:
1442:
1441:
1440:
1439:
1436:
1432:
1428:
1423:
1422:
1416:
1415:
1414:
1413:
1410:Roughnecks"."
1408:
1405:
1404:
1400:
1392:
1389:
1385:
1381:
1380:
1379:
1375:
1371:
1365:
1360:
1359:
1358:
1355:
1351:
1347:
1346:
1342:
1341:Earwig's tool
1338:
1337:
1330:
1329:
1328:
1327:
1323:
1319:
1318:
1312:
1308:
1307:
1306:
1305:
1301:
1297:
1296:
1290:
1286:
1282:
1281:
1280:
1279:
1275:
1271:
1270:
1264:
1261:
1257:
1256:
1255:
1254:
1250:
1246:
1245:
1241:
1237:
1233:
1229:
1225:
1222:
1218:
1214:
1210:
1203:
1198:
1197:
1196:
1192:
1188:
1184:
1177:
1176:
1175:
1174:
1170:
1169:
1166:
1162:
1158:
1154:
1149:
1148:
1147:
1146:
1142:
1141:
1135:
1134:
1133:
1132:
1128:
1127:
1121:
1120:
1119:
1118:
1113:
1112:
1106:
1105:
1104:
1103:
1099:
1098:
1092:
1091:
1090:
1089:
1085:
1084:
1078:
1077:
1076:
1075:
1071:
1067:
1066:
1060:
1059:
1058:
1057:
1053:
1052:
1046:
1045:
1044:
1043:
1039:
1038:
1032:
1031:
1030:
1029:
1025:
1021:
1020:
1014:
1013:
1012:
1011:
1007:
1006:
1002:
994:
990:
986:
982:
981:
980:
979:
976:
972:
968:
964:
963:
962:
961:
958:
954:
950:
944:
939:
938:
937:
936:
933:
929:
925:
921:
920:
914:
913:
912:
911:
907:
906:
900:
899:
898:
897:
892:
891:
875:
874:
873:
872:
869:
865:
861:
857:
856:
855:
854:
853:
852:
848:
847:
846:
845:
841:
840:
839:
838:
834:
833:
832:
831:
827:
826:
820:
819:
818:
817:
813:
812:
806:
805:
804:
803:
799:
798:
792:
791:
790:
789:
785:
781:
780:
772:
771:
770:
769:
764:
763:
762:
761:
757:
756:
750:
749:
748:
747:
743:
742:
734:
733:
732:
731:
727:
726:
725:
724:
720:
716:
715:
709:
708:
707:
706:
702:
701:
695:
694:
693:
692:
689:
685:
681:
677:
676:
670:
669:
668:
667:
662:
661:
649:
648:
647:
646:
641:
640:
639:
638:
634:
633:
632:
631:
627:
626:
625:
624:
620:
619:
613:
612:
611:
610:
606:
605:
598:
594:
590:
586:
585:
584:
583:
579:
578:
577:
576:
572:
571:
565:
564:
563:
562:
558:
557:
546:
542:
541:
540:
539:
535:
534:
533:
532:
527:
526:
525:
524:
520:
519:
513:
512:
511:
510:
506:
505:
499:
498:
497:
496:
492:
491:
485:
484:
483:
482:
478:
477:
470:
469:
468:
467:
463:
462:
456:
455:
451:
450:
449:
448:
444:
443:
437:
436:
435:
434:
430:
429:
427:
426:
425:
419:
413:
409:
405:
401:
400:
399:
398:
395:
391:
387:
383:
382:
381:
380:
374:
370:
366:
359:
354:
353:
352:
351:
347:
343:
339:
335:
331:
324:
320:
316:
312:
306:
301:
299:
295:
291:
285:
280:
279:
278:
277:
274:
269:
267:
254:
251:
246:
244:
238:
237:
236:
235:
234:
233:
226:
225:
223:
219:
218:
208:
207:
206:
203:
198:
196:
189:
188:
187:
186:
185:
184:
177:
176:
174:
173:
163:
162:
161:
158:
153:
151:
144:
143:
142:
141:
140:
139:
133:
132:
129:
128:
127:
121:
119:
118:
114:
110:
106:
105:Mike Christie
97:
96:
92:
88:
82:
81:
78:
75:
72:
70:
67:
63:
59:
55:
48:
46:
41:
36:
31:
30:
23:
19:
1866:
1863:
1823:Closing note
1822:
1779:
1678:
1657:
1622:
1594:
1582:
1569:
1567:
1561:
1520:
1508:
1503:
1502:
1494:
1289:63 citations
1223:
1185:That's it.--
1069:
1023:
784:Ender Wiggin
718:
678:More soon.--
544:
423:
379:Image review
378:
377:
329:
328:
261:
125:
101:
84:
53:
51:
39:
32:
1320:What makes
1298:What makes
1247:What makes
1178:True. Done.
1664:See above.
1332:including.
386:Nikkimaria
358:Nikkimaria
342:Nikkimaria
1849:Sarastro1
1831:WP:FAC/ar
1827:candidate
1808:Vanamonde
1801:Sarastro1
1744:Vanamonde
1705:Vanamonde
1545:Vanamonde
1514:Cas Liber
1509:Reception
1478:Vanamonde
1370:Vanamonde
1209:Vanamonde
985:Vanamonde
949:Vanamonde
876:Combined.
404:Vanamonde
365:Vanamonde
334:WP:NOTUSA
311:Vanamonde
305:RileyBugz
290:Vanamonde
284:RileyBugz
265:RileyBugz
242:RileyBugz
228:instance.
194:RileyBugz
149:RileyBugz
109:Vanamonde
87:Vanamonde
58:Sarastro1
1825:: This
1784:Hawkeye7
1758:Ian Rose
1737:Ian Rose
1722:Ian Rose
1699:Ian Rose
1681:Ian Rose
1635:Ian Rose
1606:Ian Rose
1562:Comments
1539:Casliber
1524:contribs
1504:Comments
1495:Comments
1472:Hchc2009
1453:Hchc2009
1427:Hchc2009
1384:Ealdgyth
1364:Ealdgyth
1350:Ealdgyth
1079:Tweaked.
1024:Podkayne
807:alright.
719:Stranger
643:library.
54:promoted
20: |
1595:Setting
1228:Wehwalt
1224:Support
1202:Wehwalt
1187:Wehwalt
1157:Wehwalt
967:Wehwalt
943:Wehwalt
924:Wehwalt
860:Wehwalt
680:Wehwalt
589:Wehwalt
363:here...
330:Comment
1789:(talk)
915:Fixed.
222:MOS:LQ
62:FACBot
1444:well.
1107:Done.
1072:here.
1061:Done.
901:Done.
710:Done.
566:Done.
529:1959.
438:Done.
16:<
1853:talk
1812:talk
1762:talk
1748:talk
1726:talk
1709:talk
1685:talk
1639:talk
1610:talk
1549:talk
1518:talk
1482:talk
1457:talk
1431:talk
1388:Talk
1374:talk
1354:Talk
1232:talk
1213:talk
1191:talk
1161:talk
989:talk
971:talk
953:talk
928:talk
894:out.
864:talk
684:talk
593:talk
408:talk
390:talk
369:talk
346:talk
315:talk
294:talk
272:投稿記録
249:投稿記録
201:投稿記録
156:投稿記録
113:talk
91:talk
66:talk
60:via
1845:bot
1675:be.
1593:In
1310:so.
545:did
56:by
1855:)
1841:}}
1835:{{
1814:)
1764:)
1750:)
1728:)
1711:)
1687:)
1641:)
1612:)
1551:)
1526:)
1484:)
1459:)
1433:)
1386:-
1376:)
1352:-
1262:,
1234:)
1215:)
1193:)
1163:)
991:)
973:)
955:)
930:)
866:)
686:)
595:)
410:)
392:)
371:)
348:)
317:)
296:)
115:)
93:)
71:.
37:.
1851:(
1810:(
1803::
1799:@
1760:(
1746:(
1739::
1735:@
1724:(
1707:(
1701::
1697:@
1683:(
1637:(
1608:(
1547:(
1541::
1537:@
1521:·
1516:(
1480:(
1474::
1470:@
1455:(
1429:(
1372:(
1366::
1362:@
1230:(
1211:(
1204::
1200:@
1189:(
1159:(
987:(
969:(
951:(
945::
941:@
926:(
862:(
682:(
591:(
406:(
388:(
367:(
360::
356:@
344:(
313:(
307::
303:@
292:(
286::
282:@
111:(
89:(
64:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.