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that the statement you quoted is "For works (photographs and others alike, but excepting sound recordings made prior to February 15, 1972) not published in the U.S., the following rule applies: If the work was in the public domain in the country of origin as of January 1, 1996, it is in the public domain in the U.S. (Even if it was published after 1923, but only if no copyright had been registered with the U.S. Copyright Office.)" Did you even bother to read the later problems the later six paragraphs illustrate, and the final statements of that paragraph, "And strictly speaking one would also have to verify that a non-U.S. work was not covered by copyright in the U.S. by virtue of some bilateral agreement of the U.S. and the foreign country (see and "Circular 38a" in the "external links" section below). Country-specific public domain tags must therefore be used with the utmost care only."?
864:. Nicely done. However, please look at the sentence, "the factory suffered a surprise attack by some 300, perhaps even thousands, of Muslim Arabs and Hindu Indians." The word "thousands" makes the sentence grammatically incorrect—depending on what the source says, it should say "perhaps as many as a thousand", "perhaps as many as several thousand", or "perhaps even several thousand"—or anything else that involves "thousand" and not the plural. Then drop the "of". -- 2304: 205:
topic. I really enjoyed reading it. Formatting of footnotes and references seem to be all right, as well as the quality of the sources. There is only one problem that I see in this article, it is minor one and perhaps easy to amend: there are three red wikilinks to the commanders of Cabral's ships and one Spanish explorer. Personally I prefer not to see red links in the quality articles.
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may be out there that I haven't read. I cannot speak for every editor/contribution to the article. There are cases where existing material gets rewritten or improved during copyedits which could introduce/reintroduce such issues. However, when going over the article, I do not see anything which sticks out as material from those sources I have read.
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the titles are endless, and the names of any heirs are unknown, so those are useless. Those 2 sites are hardly comprehensive for graphic art, but they are the only places available to most Knowledge editors and reviewers. If there are better databases available to Wiki contributors and reviewers, please do tell so we all can learn—seriously.
502:"30,000 reias in modern currency": Conversion of pre-modern currencies is next to impossible, as authorities debate and propose new calculation methods constantly. None of the sources give even an estimate, and references giving conversions from 15th–16th century Portuguese currency to modern currency are unknown to Lecen and me. 646:) which varied through history. If there is an article detailing 15th century Portuguese grades of nobility, we could certainly add a link. Is anyone really confused by this or think that the various titles used need to be expounded upon further? If so, then it is going to take some time to track down a reference. 975:"The Portuguese retaliated by looting and burning the Arab fleet and shelling the city." Can you add a little context to the lead here? The statement is baffling on its own because we have no idea why they would shell a non-Arab city. It's readily apparent after reading down, but you could add a bit more here. 2025:
sites turned up nothing registered under the 2 artists names (Oscar Pereira da Silva; Roque Gameiro) who died early in the 20th century. There were also no results for Eduard Rensburg and/or George Mathias Heaton to whom the mid-19th century lithograph was attributed. Angilicization possibilities for
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Did you even bother to read that section in its context? Specifically, "However, being in the public domain in its home country does not automatically mean that the work was also in the public domain in the U.S. because the U.S. does not follow the "rule of shorter term"." in the first paragraph and
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All words said by Astynax can be called my own. If it does help in anyway possible, most books used as sources in the article can be easily found in google books and are even written in English, despite the subject being a Portuguese explorer. In other words, I assume complete responsability for the
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Qualification (as these are broad questions): When reading through source material, the brain sometimes picks up on something which can affect wording and organization, so I cannot state absolutely that something of that nature could not have crept in. I also cannot speak to wording in sources which
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The primary aim of the projects is to establish a repository of free material (compliant with at least US law) for others to re-use. The point of providing specific correct information for those images are to help re-users verify for themselves whether or how they can safely use the images in their
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say 1904? Da Silva died in 1939; his Brazilian copyright persists till the start of this year (2010). Does he have heirs? If they authorised reproductions during that 70-year pma, that constitutes publication. If the first publication is after 1922 but before 1977, then US copyright persists for
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Hi, Brian. Thanks for taking a look in the article. In "Return to Europe" section, the last phrase, taken from historian Bailey Diffie and which is sourced, explain why Cabral was the responsible for the birth of the Portuguese colonial Empire. The book used as source has a gallery between pages 222
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The history of exploration of the world is one of the underrepresented topics in Knowledge, and Cabral certainly is one of the most important figures of the Age of Discovery and indeed deserves wider attention. The article is well-written and well-illustrated, and quite comprehensive in covering the
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I am nominating this for featured article because a major overhaul during the last month has been completed. We have, hopefully, learned enough here to have ironed out most issues to bring it up to FA standards. Cabral was a major early Portuguese explorer who deserves wider recognition, and we have
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Well, Spanish surely is not Portuguese. Or as far as I know, German is not English, depite having a common origin. And no, I did not simply translate a Portuguese phrase into English. Don't worry about that. Also, most of the text was created from English-written sources, available at google books.
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I never said that the work was first published in 1923. What I did say was that the earliest book I could find was one published in 1923. Do not change the meaning of my words, please. I have another book that says that the miniature was from the 19th Century. That is why is written "19th Century".
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Stylistically, there are some bracketed sections that feel like they should be integrated into the main part of the sentence - e.g. "Dom Manuel I (who had acceded to the throne two years previously)", "Afonso Lopes (pilot of the lead ship)", " Nicolau Coelho (a captain who had experience from Vasco
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I had decided to bow out on this unresolved issue, since I did not contribute these images. However, since the insinuation has been put forth that we have violated and misinterpreted policy, I will note that no evidence to back that up has been put forward. Again, I don't see the granularity being
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As for the map, again, the map in the Cabral article is based on another map placed into the PD on WikiCommons. I have no idea of how they drew their original map, nor would I probably know what they were talking about if they told us—we take their statement that it is their own work in GF. As for
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The only way this could qualify for US copyrights (because his works are in the Brazilian public domain before 1 Jan 1996) is if Figueiredo's heirs registered and renewed his works in the US. I was unable to find any signs of this at their website or in the tomes of available Copyright Records on
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I do understand that your personal wish would be to add the letter (you've tried to that before) but I can't do that for some reasons. The article is on Cabral and Caminha is not mentioned at all in it. The former is the focus of the article. The letter would make sense in the article (which there
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Insistence on additional "helpful" information: If we had that info, we would have added it. We don't. Were such additions required by Policy, I'd just withdraw the nomination until someone with access to better resources (or a big legal and travel budget) came along to gather, verify and tag the
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is a journal (now defunct). It reproduced the lithograph, which was originally published by George Mathias Heaton and Eduard Rensburg. These were two foreign illustrators and publishers active during the 1850s in Brazil. Rensburg was born in 1817 and died in 1898. Heaton was born in 1804 and must
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I agree with Astynax. As I said before, Commons' rules are misleading if Jappalang's point of view is the one correct. In fact, if we take in account his near impossible demands to prove that an image (including one of the 16th Century!) is in free public domain, all images in history-related
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retroactive for older works, those are under the copyright provisions in force at the the time of their creation/publication. If that isn't the case, then policy needs to be changed/clarified. I don't see anywhere that Wiki agrees with efforts by some to privatize works that are in the public
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The ones related to US-Copyright were changed to others that are more clear and taken in accord with Wikimedia Foundation's policy. Since some of the works were also made in Brazil, I added tags which reveals their copyright status in their country of origin. Lastly, I added a little bit of
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If the policy and the comments you've made are supposed to be in alignment, then either the policy or your explanation of policy needs to be clearer. The day only IP law students are allowed to edit here or contribute material will be a sad day indeed. Editors must rely on clear policy, and
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One followup question to our (new) plagiarism checklist: are you aware that literal translations from Portuguese to English would also be considered plagiarism, and that non-English translations also have to be reworded to avoid close paraphrasing? Just clarifying ...
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The concern is that his heirs would have authorized publication of the work before 1978 and have registered and renewed copyrights in the US for it, thus getting the 95 years of US copyright protection. If there is no such publication, then there would be no worries.
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been consulted for punctuation of quotations? If the period is part of the quotation, it should be inside the closing quote. I'm looking at the second para of "Fleet commander-in-chief". There are other places, such as "Posthumous rehabilitation", where the periods are
904:. I was wondering what's the point of having a section 4. Later Years followed by subsection 4.1 Fall from grace and death with no text in between and no 4.2 subsection. Wouldn't it be better to just rename section 4 as Fall from grace and death and do away with 4.1?¨-- 2017:
demanded here for 120+ year old images and works based on PD work created by Wiki contributors as being at all supported by policy. Indeed, what is being demanded itself seems to violate Wiki's position as explained in the PD-art and PD-old templates. Name searches at
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Aurélio de Figueiredo died in 1916. Was this work published during his lifetime? From 1916 to 1987, his heirs (if any) have the rights to authorise publication of his works. Did he have any heirs? Was this work reproduced anywhere during that time? What year is
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The apparent contention that works which are public domain in other nations may not be in the public domain in the U.S. (or on U.S. servers) also does not seem to be policy. Policy states that a work is public domain in the U.S. if its copyright has expired in the
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Obviously we're not understanding your point about the volumes in the References section. Please feel free to be more specific, or just reformat them as you wish. My personal view is that they should have been left as given in the references
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From which public domain or "free" map was the geographical outlines copied from, or which set of geographical co-ordinate data set was used to create the underlying map? From which sources were information on Cabral's routes taken from?
1569:. São Paulo: Companhia das Letras, 2002) doesn't assign a name for the map, just a date and the artist (Sebastião Lópes). Perhaps there is another source which gives a name (if a distinct name exists), but seems an unnecessary bit of info. 425:"Cabral was christened Pedro Álvares de Gouveia and only later, supposedly upon his elder brother's death in 1503, did he switch to using his mother's surname rather than his father's" - I'm confused, isn't de Gouveia his mother's surname? 1438:
Google books. Therefore, it is a very unlikely case. I had to plow through Brazilian websites just to find a simple answer to which year that magazine is: the answer—April 2010—which the nominators could have simply provided such.
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and 223. The pages that are part of the gallery are not numbered as pages. Below on of the images which is part of the gallery there is a text which says that the carracks were used in Vasco da Gama, Columbus and Cabral's voyages. --
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A work might be public domain in Portugal or Brazil, but US law determines what copyright it is in the country of the server (US). Just like how Popeye is in the public domain outside of the US, but is still copyrighted in
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Roque Gameiro died in 1935. His copyrights persist until the start of 2006. Any of his work published from 1923 to 1977 are granted 95 years of copyright protection in the US by the URAA agreement. First publication in
819:" Despite a desperate defense by crossbowmen, more than 50 Portuguese were killed (according to other sources, between 20 and 70 were wounded or murdered)" - there's a full stop missing at the end of the sentence I think. 1309:, licensed cc-by-sa 3.0, but could be problematic, since there is no indication of when the monument was constructed. If the monument is still under copyright, this can't be used without proper licensing from the artist. 1057:
Perhaps. Cabral's life before and after the voyage is very obscure. Some historians mention that he was the second eldest child, but others say that he was the third eldest male. Some give his birth in 1467 and other in
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Some comments seem to be projecting provisions of current law backward to cover works which were copyrighted under different rules. Those old rules still apply. I'm fairly certain that the current rules are generally
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The article uses historian "William Greenlee"'s full name but historians "Newitt" and "McClymont" only get a surname; either can work, but it should be consistent. (NB: James McClymont gets his first name again later
1467:"Based on work created by MesserWoland and Petr Dlouhý": What work? Considering the level of details involved, is the base map a recreation from public domain material or a rendering from a set of data. Ref: 2273:
Again, this is not required by any guideline, but it certainly makes article review easier, and I also think it makes article reading easier, since readers will know right up front if a source is in English.
1898:: Perhaps the repetition is needed because it is difficult to match what we read in Wiki's image policies with what seem to be your statements. Maybe policy is too vague or just wrong, but it is what we go by: 2228:, plagiarism and copyvio. This is not guideline or policy-- it is my suggestion for how to better handle non-English sources, to make it easier on reviewers, and it is what I do when citing Spanish sources. 2163:
If there are any close paraphrases, they are not intentional. The difference between a close paraphrase and a summary must be a very fine line, and the article does summarize and attribute its sources.
970:"His fleet sailed far into the western Atlantic" Do you think it goes without saying "Atlantic Ocean"? I'm just wondering if "the Atlantic" is too colloquial for readers from some parts of the world. 1987:
Indeed we are not to talk about changes to policies or guidelines here and I have certainly not done so here. I am instead pointing out the misinterpretations and thus violations of the policies.
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Unfortunately, we don't. That point was raised in here before and the best we could would be to guess how much was worth it. I am pretty sure that is was very large sum to the time, since 100,000
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information (along with sources) to the year of the two maps above. I hope that was what you were looking after since it will make them far more precise as to their copyright status. Regards, --
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This doesn't look too good. The original image is a vector image the new route lines are raster. It's all pixellated at any decent resolution. Can you get someone to redo this as a vector image?
588:"he was named moço fidalgo (a minor title then commonly granted to young nobles)... He was given the title fidalgo" - fidalgo seems to be a separate title from the one that uses your explanation 2108:
Some recent developments have made it advisable to ask these questions. Please do not take them as indicating any doubt about your work; they are just one more step in the review process.
1717:(underlined words inserted per clarification below 06:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)). As already explained, a 1923 first publishing would qualify it for the 95-year US copyright protection. 1630: 612:"Battered by tempests, attacked by pirates and finally forced aground on the Eritrean coast, in a desperate search for water and food for his rapidly-dying crew" - not a complete sentence. 1384: 1640:
The concern is to clarify that da Silva or his heirs (if any) did not authorize publication of this work before 1978 since that could create the possibility of US copyright protection.
1661:: It should be enough that the image was created before 1887 and that the author died in 1916. The image was exhibited in 1887, and is in the Museu Histórico Nacional do Rio de Janeiro. 809:"was headed to Calicut (or Kozhikode) in India" - is Kozhikode another name for Calicut, or is it another place altogether? (I'm guessing the former, but it's unclear from the wording). 1110:
It's detailed but the quality is still not good. If you do not understand the difference between vector and raster graphics, it might be better to find a graphics person to fix it. --
1911:"faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain, and that claims to the contrary represent an assault on the very concept of a public domain" 1658: 1422: 2129:
Is there any translation which is a verbatim transcriptions or close paraphrase of a (even if idiomatic) translation of the original source(s)? If so, can you tell us which ones?
294:'s letter being one of the most notorious testimonies of Cabral's discovery), which I think is much more informative than the present romantic recreation of the discovery. 1868:
Knowledge pages, including non-English language pages, are hosted on a server in the United States, so U.S. law governs whether a Knowledge image is in the public domain.
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is) on the voyage. The romantic recreation is an iconic image of Brazil's discovery as the painting of Pedro Américo despicting the declaration of Brazilian independence
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I recognize these questions come late in the process but they are necessary to ensure the integrity of the FAC process. Thank you, and good luck with this nomination.
1140:"Cabral took vengence by looting and burning the Arab fleet and then bombarded the city in retaliation for its ruler having failed to explain the unexpected attack." 537:"the ships were set afire, or the merchants?": A "merchantman" is a type of ship in modern English. A "merchant" is a person. Regardless, some of both were torched. 1673:: Works Published Abroad Before 1978, 1923 through 1977, Published in compliance with all US formalities (i.e., notice, renewal), 95 years after publication date) 994:"an annual allowance worth 30,000 reais" Do we have any indication of whether that's a lot of money for the time? Would he be considered wealthy based on that sum? 652:
I disagree that "equaled his father's 1.90 meters (6 ft 2.8) height" has a problem with grammar. I've changed the wording from "equaled" to "matched", however.
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I'm going to answer the ones related to the subject. I'll leave the other points related to grammar and style to Astynax, who is far better than I on that.
726:- as I mentioned in my hidden text, this wording is a bit awkward, could it be reworded? I've taken a few stabs, but I can't come up with anything I like. 88: 83: 2043: 1691: 1487: 40: 92: 317:
is regarded as the most iconic on Brazilian independence. I hope you can understand that. Lastly, I would like to thank you all for commenting here. --
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You are correct that the punctuation should be inside the quote marks for the quotation from Newitt. I have adjusted a few others at the same time.
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It is necessary to have 3 or 4 citations for statements such as his birthplace or number of brothers and sisters? Are these likely to be disputed?
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Nice work on this. It is a very interesting read. Where I went to school we learned much about Vasco de Gama but virtually nothing about Cabral.
1804:: The map's status is as noted. The Knowledge editors mentioned helped create the map and/or created the PD map from which this map was adapted. 2187:
Thank you for your quick and helpful response, Astynax. It would be helpful to have other principal contributors also respond. Best wishes,
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Is there any translation which is a verbatim transcriptions or close paraphrase of a (even if idiomatic) translation of the original source(s)?
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I have an older program which is supposed to export svg, though I don't know how many features it supports. Will try converting it tonight.
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Well written and complete. I would change the footnotes section (overly long) into a two-column format but that's a very minor nitpick. --
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If you will switch the pt icon to the front of the source, it is much easier to scan the sources and determine how many are non-English:
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I am getting rather tired of repeating the same things across the board. If you upload items to Commons, then abide its policies. Per
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In some footnotes there is an inconsistency in whether the years are bracketed. and one has "and" instead of a comma for multiple pages
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da Gama's voyage to India)", " a third vessel (commanded by Pedro de Ataíde)", "found in today's Venezuela (northwest of Brazil)," etc.
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We have only the barest outline of the criteria used by the Portuguese government in selecting Cabral to head the expedition to India.
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There are several places where the wording is awkward, making comprehension difficult. Suggest copy-edit to improve clarity and flow
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Is there any verbatim sentence or phrase in the article which is not encased in quote marks and attributed to the specific source?
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images with that "helpful" data (that would never happen, IMO). But unless I've completely missed something, that sort of info is
816:"could result banishment (as it did for one of da Gama's supporters)" Missing an "in", and the brackets probably aren't necessary. 138: 2038: 1768: 1507: 291: 2267: 2243: 1409: 453:
I think some of those quotes would be better paraphrased and cited - you use quite a few, which tends to reduce their impact
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tag. It has since been reproduced several times. As it was published in Portugal, its copyright expired at the end of 2005.
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If the work was in the public domain in the country of origin as of 1 January 1996, it is in the public domain in the U.S.
1009:"So both parties viewed moves by the other with extreme suspicion." Can you rewrite this without the awkward interjection? 2224:: many of the sources are in Portuguese, which makes it hard on reviewers to do the (now necessary) source checking for 79: 1801: 1460: 1299: 290:
I would support it if the choice of images is less centered on modern illustrations, favoring contemporary documents (
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I would argue that the "Discovery of Brazil" section would be best served by being divided into only two subsections
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the route drawn on the map being questioned (my head is spinning), it simply follows the narrative in the article.
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now. My concerns have been addressed, and we have a fine article. I can't wait to read others in the series. --
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congratulations for the work: there's been a great improvement in the article, which is now comprehensive.
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95 years since that year (URAA restoration because work is not public domain in Brazil before 1 Jan 1996).
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Reproductions of older 2-D works: Off-Wiki links notwithstanding, Knowledge's position seems very clear:
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Just the above for the moment. Most (the ones in italics) should be resolved before promotion to FA.
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Image issues resolved; all are verifiably public domain or appropriately licensed for the project.
1856:* that are in the public domain in at least the United States and in the source country of the work. 2090: 1992: 1950: 1885: 1817: 1788: 1753: 1722: 1678: 1645: 1613: 1581: 1543: 1528: 1443: 731: 607: 2192: 2141: 1241: 937: 909: 830: 434:"was as tall as his 1.90 meters (6 ft 2.8) father" - measurement should here be in adjective form 365:
What does the word "gallery" mean, in ref 84? A pity it pushes the page ref into the next column.
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I believe all verbatim sentences/phrases are encased in quote marks and attributed to sources.
1670: 1597:: This is a picture of a page from a report on the expedition, so yes, it is obviously 16th c. 1278: 1221: 765:
Informative, thorough, broad, interesting details. I fixed a few minor things along the way.
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File:Oscar Pereira da Silva - Desembarque de Pedro Álvares Cabral em Porto Seguro em 1500.jpg
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File:Oscar Pereira da Silva - Desembarque de Pedro Álvares Cabral em Porto Seguro em 1500.jpg
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In writing this article, did you adopt the sentence structure or organization of any source?
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The first two paragraphs of "Arrival in a new land" seem to belong in the preceding section
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The point is to clarify the period of the journal since the image is scanned from it.
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was easily acchieved by anyone who had even the most simple job, 324 years before 30,000
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says the painting was first exhibited and acquired by the the state government in 1902.
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There was no intentional adoption of sentence structure or organization of any source.
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It might be, but it would be more helpful to anyone who seeks to reuse this image.
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I have cast in italics the images that are more of a "concern" than a "question".
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not a 1800s (of which 1814 is a valid date, before the birth of the author) work
418:- an important and under-represented topic, but still in need of some polishing. 2225: 1096:
I made a new map which is far more detailed than the other one. Is it better? --
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Not yet. I asked J Milburn to do that. I'm waiting him to respond me. Cheers, --
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I have just wasted nearly an hour poring through the footnotes again, and found
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Again, please be more specific about what wording makes comprehension difficult.
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Yes, I've asked Jappalang and J Milburnto review it (the same who did that in
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Wiki policy needs to be changed or clarified, the place to do it isn't here.
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was the amount needed in Brazil in 1824 to be able to vote. Although 100,000
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Does the book title beginning "Revista" include the word "Trimestral" or not?
1931: 1296:: All images are in the public domain with acceptable sources list, except: 1265:. Well written, well sourced. I made some small copy-edits for clarity etc. 1876:
Any uploads of images to either Knowledge or Commons must satisfy US laws.
1302:, licensed cc-by-sa 3.0 and derived from a public domain source, acceptable 505:"What is fidalgo?" As explained at the first instance of the term's use, 2169:
There are such translations, but they are in quote marks and attributed.
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A viagem do descobrimento: a verdadeira história da expedição de Cabral
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A viagem do descobrimento: a verdadeira história da expedição de Cabral
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I've changed the tags in the paintings available in Cabral's article:
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The article is in need of some minor copy-editing for clarity and flow
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Apologies for misinterpreting your words, I have amended the above.
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It was asked when was the miniature first published. The answer was
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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consistent format for volumes and editions in reference citations:
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1922 is the date of creation or date of publication? Why does
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well sourced, researched, informative, all in all, good work!--
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Ok, I understand. Thanks for your effort to complete article.--
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You're free to add "Ocean", if you believe it would be better.
846:: Thanks. Changes and fixes have been made per your comments. 594:"equaled his father's 1.90 meters (6 ft 2.8) height" - grammar 2157:
I believe the article complies with Wiki policy on copyright.
2022: 1499:(1923) would mean it is still protected in the US until 2019. 459:
Use a consistent formatting for sources with multiple authors
2116:? Do you believe this article complies with these policies? 1671:
http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
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Lecen combined the subsections under "Discovery of Brazil".
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Approximately how much is 30,000 reias in modern currency?
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is "a minor title then commonly granted to young nobles".
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1694:: This 19th century artwork should be covered under the 1469:
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Anyone is free to check it out there. A few examples:
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Be consistent in how volumes and editions are listed.
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I've made another change to the dates you indicated.
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Those footnotes have now been fixed. 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 2202:text of the article is it is written now. -- 1711:was the earliest publication found, this is 1565:: The referenced source (Boxer, Charles R. 531:"2nd or 3rd of May 1500": both occurrences 2044:File:Miniature of Pedro Alvares Cabral.jpg 1692:File:Miniature of Pedro Alvares Cabral.jpg 1488:File:Miniature of Pedro Alvares Cabral.jpg 1432:Revista de História da Biblioteca Nacional 747:: I've tried tweaking the sentence again. 122: 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 1852:* that are explicitly freely licensed, or 1307:File:Bernardelli - Monumento a Cabral.jpg 512:Reference the height of Cabral's father: 1862:Knowledge:Image use policy#Public domain 1517:, issue 6, an "around 1850" publication? 1168:At Lecen's suggestion, I made a request 1062:"an annual allowance worth 30,000 reais" 187:No problems with dablinks or deadlinks. 672:The incomplete sentence has been fixed. 125: 115: 1567:O império marítimo português 1415–1825 400:There is now a reference in the note. 1385:illustration of Vasco de Gama's fleet 358:Endnote B should be cited to a source 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 1848:Wikimedia Commons accepts only media 1830:I hope the above will help clarify. 932:Has there been an image review yet? 522:the subsection to "Goals and voyage" 2049:File:Pedro Alvares Cabral fleet.jpg 1595:File:Pedro Alvares Cabral fleet.jpg 1381:File:Pedro Alvares Cabral fleet.jpg 1244:), but none of them answered me. -- 1172:to get the route map vectorized. -- 2263:. 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Rio de Janeiro: Objetiva, 1998. 2101:Questions on intellectual property 1497:História da Colonização Portuguesa 1055:"Are these likely to be disputed?" 669:instances of identical references. 558:doubled period in reference note: 525:"Provide conversion for 30 tons": 465:Boxer entry: remove doubled period 24: 1776:have died sometime prior to that. 606:Combine identical references per 546:formatting for multiple authors: 2039:File:Pedro alvares cabral 01.png 1769:File:Pedro alvares cabral 01.png 1508:File:Pedro alvares cabral 01.png 370:Otherwise, all sources look OK. 224:; articles that meet notability 600:Issue with volumes is not fixed 496:Surname changed from mother's: 1410:File:Desembarque de Cabral.jpg 1340:- All images look good now. -- 1025:Not too far to go, I think. -- 752:09:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC) 736:23:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC) 682:18:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC) 622:13:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC) 577:09:25, 25 September 2010 (UTC) 478:21:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC) 440:Provide conversion for 30 tons 405:02:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC) 396:23:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC) 380:23:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC) 327:02:43, 21 September 2010 (UTC) 306:21:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC) 274:08:57, 21 September 2010 (UTC) 265:04:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC) 215:12:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC) 197:18:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC) 180:18:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC) 1: 2019:Google Books copyright search 825:with those minor bits fixed. 552:José Olympio vs. J. 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