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It's practically the same thing. "Many goats" are only "many" if they are found togther at "a place". Again, I remind that
Portuguese surnames are almost always toponyms (locations), e.g. Silva (forest), Pereira (pear grove), Fonseca (dry well), Miranda (look-out point), etc. It is highly unusual to
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Vespucci, and also provides the dates of Cabral's arrival and departure with a link to "Bueno, Eduardo (1998). A viagem do descobrimento: a verdadeira história da expedição de Cabral" book (by the way, the author is a supporter of the idea that
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User Lecen keeps reverting my accurate minor correction to the article so here's a record for any future reality-based revision. Cabral didn't "discover" Brazil. The place that became Brazil was already inhabited for thousands of years when Cabral became the first recorded
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Dunno. Frankly, I'd probably just leave it be, as it currently is, and hope nobody makes a fuss. Or maybe just weaken the term "translates to" to something less strong, like "refers to" or "pertains to" or "can be traced to" or "is rooted in" goats.
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America not by chance). So: 1) at best only the fastest ship arrived at Bezeguiche island on June 2, and Cabral himself arrived no earlier than mid-June (or even early July - see:
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