234:: Is there no free image to be found? Photograph, illustration? It's obviously not a requirement, but it would be helpful to include one (if available) -- especially if this to be the first bat FA. :) BTW, I know nothing about bats except it's icky when they get in your hair, so I was looking forward to SEEING one...
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Lead organization – This is just a suggestion, but personally, I would omit the some of the details about the taxonomic confusion and summarize a bit more, as well as move the last paragraph/sentence into the first paragraph. If you disagree, that's fine. I just think it would flow better and give
807:"collected by Léon Humblot on Madagascar" – I don't know what is "proper", but personally, I prefer "in Madagascar" or possibly "on the island of Madagascar", particularly in these cases, where the name refers to both the island and the nation. This is minor though. It's probably a non-issue.
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Unfortunately, no. Malagasy bats are only just emerging from obscurity, and free images are hard to come by. I'm planning to ask some bat researchers whether they are willing to release some, but haven't gotten around to that yet. Several of the linked, open-access scientific papers do have
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I got a little lost on some of the terminology in the
Description section, mostly on things like "transverse line" and "lancet". I'm just not familiar with them, and didn't want to make assumptions. They seem like they would be difficult to explain briefly, so maybe nothing can be
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I do think it's important to mention the recent name change in the lead—it may well confuse people. However, the sentence about phylogenetic relationships isn't that important, so I omitted it. I also united the first and third paragraphs per your
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are an underrepresented topic on
Knowledge—a pity considering their diversity and the many interesting aspects of their biology. This article is about a species from Madagascar with a nice noseleaf and giant (well,
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787:(butterflies and moths)" – For the lead, maybe it should be as simple as possible: either reverse the position of "lepidopterans" and "butterflies and moths" or just wikilink "butterflies and moths" to
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I'd link the unit kHz in the lead. Is the echolocation call frequency a lead-worthy fact by itself? Is it higher or lower than other bats? Maybe mention that it can be easily identified from its call.
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I do think frequency of capture is something that should be taken account in determining niche; the source also mentions these facts together. However, I reworded the sentence.
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You can see the lancets (the three weird things on the nose) in
Garbutt (2007, p. 70). I glossed it "projecting structures", but perhaps there is a clearer way to say it.
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Triaenops and
Paratriaenops furculus occur in the same regions, but it is unclear how their ecological niches of are separated, since both eat lepidopterans
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I was reduced to making a couple of minor style edits only. I can't see anything else jumping out at me as needing improving or changing. Looking good.
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Good find, especially since I have that book. The source he cites (Peterson et al., 1995) doesn't actually give wingspan, but I added this nonetheless.
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Thanks for the review, support, and copyedits. If it's that good, it's only because Jim, Sasata, and
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Aha, I just looked one up. Funny little guys. Thanks for the reply!
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I'd mention that Lepitoptera are butterflies and moths in the lead
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Morphometrics. I added what I could glean from the diagnosis of
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