305:"Starting from pole position is important, as a driver has a greater chance of winning from pole than a driver who has qualified in a lower position on the starting grid." I think this is generally true although it sounds like original research. I know I've seen races where starting in second place was considered advantageous because of the layout of the circuit or because of dirty track on one side etc.
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452:"Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." The official site would be best, although I guess that means some work... (to put it mildly!)
430:, which does at least acknowledge its sources, most of which scan be deemed reliable. Another option would be to use the official f1 site, as although it doesn't list the poles in the way that statsf1 does all the information is on the site its just not collated. Would either of those be a better option?
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Yes, it's statistically better to be anywhere in position 2-24 than on pole; however, it's statistically better to be on pole than any other individual slot. That's like saying a politician who won an election with 40% of the vote didn't win just because 20 people split the remaining 60%. :P
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Funnily enough "the driver that has qualified on pole position has gone on to win the race 347 times" means that less than half the races were actually one by the polesitter so statistically it's best
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As long as it's a reliable source (which I haven't checked), it doesn't matter if it's subscription-only. Would it be better to archive this now and to come back when you've revamped the sourcing?
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