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Okay I see it. The problem is that the US Navy template is long, and sits above the next image, which sits above the next table; pushing the template down makes thing look wrong further down, in a variety of font sizes. I haven't done a formal survey, but anecdotally, most people have smaller screens
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OK, I've reworded this to a simpler statement that they never left Bayonne until they were scrapped, which is easier to verify. Effectively, they're in reserve/decommissioned once they get there, but the Navy doesn't formally do that for another year or two; very aggravating as I can't simply just
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I am a little hesitant to nominate this list after the warm reception that List of battleships of Greece received, but I welcome discussion as to if this is really a stand-alone list or if it has sufficient items to qualify for FLC's unwritten length criteria or if it's really an article in list
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This isn't the venue for another 3b/minimum items discussion. As was said beforehand, it entirely depends on the list/article in question. This is just about sufficient to be a "list" as opposed to an article with a couple of tables in it, so it's fine to be here. I'll comment accordingly.
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To get the major comment out of the way, as a critic of the Greece list, I think this one has enough entries to justify having a list. It's much closer to the other similar lists in terms of number of entries than the Greece one, and I have no 3b concerns myself.
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I've modified it with a picture; intended to be above the navbox, but they're both fighting for the top right spot. Anybody know how to modify the code appropriately? I'm not fond of this idea because it breaks consistency with all of the other US ship
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Thanks. Okay, you're not talking about the space to the right of "Key", right? Is it vertical space between the first and second paragraph? In Firefox on a 13" laptop, I have to drop down to a microscopic font to get that. - Dank
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Nope, no duplication. Look more closely, one is Friedman's carrier book and the other is the cruiser book. Much the same with two different volumes of Conways. Thanks for the fixes and the review.--
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and/or use a bigger font than you're using, Ed, and any larger font size makes that little bit of white space disappear. Do you have anything that solves all the problems at the same time? - Dank (
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I don't know why I didn't catch this at the ACR, but right now, the lead implies that the Japanese had battlecruisers at Tsushima; they used armored cruisers as the fast wing of the battle line.
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For some reason WP:SHIPS has ignored grammatically correct English and not hyphenated ship class articles. They're a compound adjective modifying the word "class", which requires a hyphen.--
505:"to pack an offensive punch " not encyclopaedic at all, more like a tabloid newspaper review of materiel. Unless it's a quote, in which case it should be in quote marks with a direct ref. 191:
with a paragraph or two explaining the class history and the notable activities of the ships. I believe that it meets all the FL criteria as given. This is a co-nomination with
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I despecified the Alaska picture size, which helps a little bit, but I'm not sure what to do unless we can somehow get some of the lede to fill in to the right of the key.--
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The changes look great, thanks for your support! I generally defer to Sturm on anything in the end-sections, although I'm wondering the same thing as you. - Dank (
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That navbox doesn't want to play nice. I've changed the paragraph break and anchored it to the next paragraph down; that fixes the whitespace problem. - Dank (
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Good catch; she was sold for scrap in 59, but the actual process began the following year. I've rewritten that bit to clarify that it refers to the sale date.--
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One other thing, from Alaska-class: "and she was scrapped with her sisters in 1960 and 1961." The table says the Hawaii was scrapped in 1959, not 1960.
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had spent 32 months in service. Couldn't easily find that in the ref. Suggest you show the reader how you came to that conclusion in a footnote.
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Tables aren't sortable so no need for over linking things like "scrap". (especially since you don't link scrap at all in the next table......)
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s were decommissioned two years after the end of WWII, not a vague "several years later" (which implies a longer duration, at least to me).
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as it meets all the criteria, but the gigantic whitespace caused by the U.S. Navy ship types box is really distracting (see where the
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Maybe worth spelling out that the WNT was an arms limitation treaty - this is clear to us, but probably not to the average reader.
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Glad to hear it. But I think that a minimum size ought to be specified to avoid any further incidents like that.--
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I jumped in at the A-class review to help with language and organization, and I'm happy to help here too. - Dank (
623:. I also didn't field the "navbox in the lead" point. I think I got the rest of them. Thanks much, TRM. - Dank ( 405:
I really dislike that navbox in the lead, and would by far prefer an image one of the battlecruisers, it would
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Is the "Found using Google Scholar" thing really necessary on the last entry in the further reading section?
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It's between the second and third paragraphs. I've sent you and Sturm a screenshot via email. :-)
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Why are there a couple of works duplicated between the References and Further reading sections?
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help engage readers who perhaps aren't even sure what a battlecruiser is or looks like.
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Looks good to me. I fixed the lead photo/navbox problem, and added a "see-also" link to
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Would link "long ton" the first time round since it's uncommon these days.
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Would it be possible to have some sort of image above the navbox? - Dank (
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battlecruisers", I would suggest consistency within the MILHIST project.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Other than this, everything looks great, so I'm happy to support.
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Ref 13, isn't the publisher NH&HC like the preceding refs?
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The navbox is common to all of the national ship lists.--
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I looked at ref 23 which was supposed to tell me that
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Is "cancelled" USEng? I thought it was "canceled"?
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