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or a biographical article. That sentence about the documentary, for example, seems really out of place. In fact, "album" appears 26 times in the lead, whereas "song" appears less than half that amount (12). I'd suggest rewriting it slightly to make the songs the focal point of the text. For example, rather than "The album is characterized as more polished than its predecessor, featuring songs that emphasized experimentation", you could have "The album's songs are characterized as more polished than their predecessors, emphasizing experimentation". This is all just a suggestion, and not something that I would oppose over. Anyway, have a think about it.
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My main problem is that I think the lead lacks a little focus. This is an article about songs that Talking Heads have recorded, and the lead needs to focus on that. A lot of the prose seems more centred on discussing Talking Head's albums, which feels like it would be better suited in a discography
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Given that Discogs is generally considered an unreliable source because it has user-generated content, we can do without the links in refs 3, 19, and 35. The liner notes themselves are perfectly fine sources, and it's not worth it to include an unreliable source even if they are just convenience
212:"Talking Heads were an American new wave band" - I am not American but my understanding is that American English would say "Talking Heads was an American new wave band". This applies in a number of other places eg "their debut", so probably worth confirming with someone American :-) 1218:
I still think it might be worth very briefly expanding on what he meant by "musical transition", though. So Fear of Music was the band's transition from their more straightforward first two albums, to the musical experimentation of Remain in Light? A Thousand Doors
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I still believe that this needs to be (briefly) explained in the article, then. "Musical transition" isn't really a common enough phrase that it can be just dropped into the lead without further clarification. A Thousand Doors
973:"took their name". Just for consistency. You've been describing bands in the plural throughout the article so far (although, like Chris above, I have a sneaking suspicion that American English uses the singular). 950:"which managed to chart". At what position did it chart, and in which territory? America, the UK, elsewhere? If you can't find any way to easily work this into the prose, just stick it in a note at the bottom. 561:"Beginning as former art school students, Talking Heads released their debut single, "Love → Building on Fire", in early 1977," at that time, did they just self-release independently? Did they have a label? 991:
to me. Words like "outtake" and "reissue" are probably common enough that they don't need to be linked. I'd argue that "compilation album" and "box set" might be too, but I'll leave that with you. – Done
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The only thing different I noticed about this list compared to other FLs of the same type is single releases being indicated separately. But its helpful to readers so no need to remove them.
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It's in quotes because that's how it was perceived by the public. They really broke up in 1988 but didn't officially announce it until 1991, so to the public they were on "hiatus"
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Yes, that makes sense. But, looking now at what the source says, Ruhlmann actually describes it as a "transitional album", rather than a "musical transition". A Thousand Doors (
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The non-album singles aren't grouping together when sorted (I believe its because "I Wish You Wouldn't Say That" has a misplaced apostrophe before the {{N/A}} template).
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The song "New Feeling" was originally a B-side but was later released on their debut later the same year. I have that fact in a note on the song. Yeah unlike
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You haven't used the wording I suggested, and what you have put in doesn't make grammatical sense - you need to say "song from which", not "song that" --
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After taking a break from editing and FLC's for a while, I'm back. My return to FLC is another song list, this time by the rock band
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Otherwise, all of the references are well-formatted and the link-checker tool shows that the links are all in working order.
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Then you need to clarify that with actual wording. Simply putting the word in quote marks doesn't convey that at all --
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Removed the quotes. I mainly used them because AllMusic & their main page puts the word in quotes as well.
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They released 22 singles as far as I can see. Was there really only one non-album song on all those B-sides?
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I decided to remove the "musical transition" part and instead put "The style and sound of
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I originally had it like this but then I changed it even though 'their' makes more sense.
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Yeah I never liked that because it seems biased and non-encyclopedic. I just removed it.
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in its use of African polyrhythms and things like that. Ruhlmann just talks about how
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Notes b, c, and d aren't complete sentences, so don't need terminating periods. – Done
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is wikilinked in citations 3, 22, 23 and 34, but not in the any of the others. – Done
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Thanks for your comments! I'll be sure to check out your FLCs if I haven't already!
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Some of the formatting of the liner note references is a little inconsistent.
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Note a is a complete sentence, so needs a period. Also, "a unfinished" -: -->
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That's how I've had it for my other featured song lists so I think it's fine
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That's how it's worded on their main page so I worded it the same here.
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With those comments resolved, I'd say this source review is a pass.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Added a statement by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That better?
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Sortable table should have every linkable item linked every time.
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this is correct and I believe better explains the "transition".
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Ruhlmann actually used "musical transition" in his review of
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Thanks so much for the comments! Hope everything looks good.
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Ref 14 has a bit of all caps (TIME) that should be taken out.
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commentators, any counter-points? Or even, corroborations?
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AllMusic reviewers seem to get the free pass here as the
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Removed them but kept the first instance of 'US' linked
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Just removed it – its a song list not a discography page
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Per WP:OVERLINK, major geographical features such as
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Spot-checks of refs 14 and 17 turned up no problems.
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was expanded upon on their final Eno collaboration,
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