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Yes, the right direction, so you agree that there is a better direction to go. I don't feel we're misleading readers if we highlight with discretion so they can at least get a better view of the subject, in this case a great painted portrait of who is most likely
Columbus. I suppose the point is
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RFCs are a bit of overkill for anything like this. The issue with digital manipulation (which the PNG has, for certain) is that it almost always modifies the color of the work to an unrealistic level. There are no pure whites in the real world, certainly not 255/255/255 like
Columbus' collar. The
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Columbus article. That way we would be better able to determine which of the two images is more appropriate for that encyclopedia
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readers are non-experts in the worlds of art and professional photography, they probably won't grasp the aesthetic value of the "inner beauty" of this candidate and would opt for the "better appearance" of the existing .png image in the article. I very much appreciate the high values of
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I would never oppose this type of nomination, although as the one who reverted this file's inclusion in the article on
Columbus, I have serious concerns about this image. It is darker and grayer with less contrast than the status quo image in the article. Since most of
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I said "right direction", not right. I much prefer the (presumably accurate) Met scan, but if Paine insists on having an edit, something that doesn't blow out the highlights is indubitably "the right direction". —
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I agree with that, and no matter how hard I tried with Corel, and for all the improvement in other areas I made, I could never get the collar detail right. The rest of it looks really good though; here's a gnarly
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Considering I named myself after him, I can't really turn this down. High quality scan of a useful image. Note that no contemporary portraits of
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I really have no qualms about the frame – in fact, I now feel that the frame adds value to the image. I am really concerned about this image's darker appearance and lower contrast. –
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actively mislead readers on the actual appearance of a key early document, any more than we could arbitrarily change the text of an early source while presenting it as the original.
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article because you reverted my inclusion of a better image. Even Chris has stated that the image you reverted "is, IMHO, the right direction...". So I wonder,
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