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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Neutrality (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 07:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: not deleted

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No, because the source is this image that the uploader created, not the official logo, per se (I've seen enough people who created a logos/image for their organizations in their own free time...including myself). Furthermore, it was released under a GFDL license. This is the official logo made by its creator. The other one is derived from that original creation. If the original creation ceases to exist, the status upon which the image is GFDL is removed and the license no longer applies. — BQZip01 —  01:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh I see. – Quadell 02:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Quadell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 20:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Not deleted, PD-ineligible

File:Brazowy Medal Sily Zbrojne w Sluzbie Ojczyzny.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Witkacy (notify | contribs).
  • This image is marked only {{PD}}. The only way this could be in the public domain:

a) it is {{PD-ineligible}} or b) Polish/EU law allows the public domain status of coats of arms/medals. I do not believe this is the case. Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Keep This image consists solely of rectangles (simple geometric shapes) in two colors and, therefore, is inelligble for copyright. Should be tagged accordingly as a PD image...that is not to say that it isn't elligible for other forms of protection (e.g. trademark, patent, etc. Yes I realize this is not the case here, but I'm just using those as an example). — BQZip01 —  22:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Not deleted

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Believed to be in the public domain in the United States. -Nv8200p talk 01:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Coburg-1915.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kelisi (notify | contribs).
  • it was deleted there as it was less than 100 years old. Not mentioned at the Ffd of 22 May 2006 but my guess is that the 100 year rule comes into play if the copyright holder is unknown. Agathoclea (talk) 12:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  • It was discussed at de:Knowledge:Löschkandidaten/Bilder/22._Mai_2006#Bild:Coburg-1915.jpg. In Germany it would only be PD if the photographer died in 1939 or earlier (70 years after death), but in the U.S. it would be PD if it was first published before 1923. Its name suggests it was first published in 1915, in which case we can keep it here... but can anyone confirm that this is actually from 1915? Since it was deleted on de.wiki, I can't see the original image description there... Is anyone here an administrator on de.wiki? Can you see if it had more info before it was deleted? – Quadell 19:27, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Ys kgk.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Seashore1989 (notify | contribs).
  • Unnecessary fair-use image. It is not being used to illustrate the article on the book in question, it is only used in the article about the non-notable model who is on the book cover. You can't even really see the model, and in any case there's no need to use a fair-use book cover to illustrate a BLP like this. rʨanaɢ /contribs 18:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agreed. The book itself doesn't have an article because it's not notable. Besides, the article itself is about to be deleted per a discussion at AfD (view) which is currently unanimous. The Earwig 19:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 04:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

File:IM000030.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jonrev (notify | contribs).

Also these, by the same uploader:

And these, with a description, but limited use:

  • User also states on his user page that "I am done with Wikishit. I am tired of being harassed by image deletion notices, and am tired of people using my photos without my permission." This makes me question whether he really meant to release these images into the public domain, as tagged. He has probably a hundred other questionable uploads. – Quadell 19:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete no encyclopedic value. rʨanaɢ /contribs 19:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC) Delete all. WP is not a file hosting service, and most of these have no encyclopedic value. rʨanaɢ /contribs 21:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
(I left two of them that might have some use - asking another admin to take a look at them. Thanks. Skier Dude (talk) 04:01, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Not deleted

File:Liam Connor CS.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gungadin (notify | contribs).
  • This is a still of an actor as he appeared in a role which doesn't seem to meet WP:NFC. It isn't necessary to see the actor (who is a living person) to understand the subject of the article, and there is nothing striking about the actor's appearance or presentation that merits discussion in the text. I believe it fails point 8, "significance," as "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Moonriddengirl 20:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep It's a screeshot of a fictional character in a article about the fictional character. Going by Moonriddengirl's argument, no image of any TV or film character, or indeed anything containing a human being who does not have a "striking" appearance, would ever be necessary. Better go and tag Superman's image for deletion. How about Han Solo? Harrison Ford is still alive, after all. It satisfies 8, an entirely subjective rule anyway. This user says it wouldnt increase readers' understanding of the topic, I say it does. This is ridiculous.GunGagdin 22:06, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Comment: This sounds like a combination of WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:ILIKEIT. Our NFC policy was created to ensure that we "support Knowledge's mission to produce perpetually free content for unlimited distribution, modification and application by all users in all media" in part by limiting unencyclopedic uses of non-free images. Is there some reason why this picture is necessary to increase the understanding of readers? --Moonriddengirl 22:24, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep per 100% of Gungadin's argument. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 22:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Note to closer: This seems to me very much like canvassing: here. --Moonriddengirl 22:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Err.... Is there a reason why any image is necessary to aid understanding? Of course there is! So we know what things look like! Please dont quote policies at me, ive been editing here a lot longer than you, and please be careful who you accuse of canvassing if you dont have any proof. I'm discussing my frustration with a friend of mine. Where have I asked anyone to vote? Cheap shot.GunGagdin 22:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
      • Note to closer: By Moonriddengirl's standards, This seems to me very much like canvassing: here.GunGagdin 22:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
        • I sought his feedback on the proper forum prior to listing this. But if Stifle chooses to !vote in this deletion debate, I would agree that his vote should be discounted, along with AnemoneProjectors's. --Moonriddengirl 22:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
          • Well, we'll have to agree to disagree, but I strongly deny your claim that I canvassed. I dont think that's a fair thing to say at all.GunGagdin 23:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
            • It was a biased post to a partisan audience, though limited in scale. It may not have been your intent to invite a participant to this debate who had already been swayed to your point of view, but the problem with making such posts before the person has a chance to come of their own accord is that it contaminates the debate and brings their neutral reception of arguments into question. I felt it was necessary to point out that concern to be sure the matter gets a fair hearing. At issue here, obviously, is whether this use is within WP:NFC. The best way to get a fair evaluation is to allow participation from neutral contributors, who may or may not agree that having the picture for the purpose of showing what the actor portraying the character looked like in the role meets point 8. --Moonriddengirl 23:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
      • You would know what Mr. James-Collier looks like from a free image of him. Stifle (talk) 08:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep, it's standard to have one image of a fictional character to show what that character looked like. This can't be conveyed in words. – Quadell 23:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
    • But it could be conveyed by a free photograph of Mr. James-Collier. Stifle (talk) 08:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
      • I disagree. A picture of Rob James-Collier isn't a picture of Liam Connor. They might look the same, then again they might not, as I've never seen James-Collier out of character. But it would be highly misleading to anyone reading the article. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 11:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
        • Indeed, a picture of the actor (a human being) is not a replacement for a picture of the character as played by an actor. I know, they look a lot alike, but you get into trouble trying to discern when they're equivalent and when they're not: artistic distinctions about when an actor is in character and whatnot. I prefer to concede that a fictional character is always representable by an image of that character, and not replaceable by a photo of any particular portrayer when out of character. – Quadell 13:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment: I agree that the closing administrator should look carefully at canvassing on this FFD. Stifle (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Indeed. Interesting that you have shown up. Your accusations of canvassing are just a political game in this case, used to win your argument. I discussed a topic with AnemoneProjectors; search his talk archives, I have spoken with him regularly over the years. I think it's unsavoury the way an innocent conversation between two editors about my frustration with yet another set of users - twisting the meaning of policy to satisfy their own views - has been turned into a political game. I have not asked anyone to vote. If I wanted to campaign, dont you think I could notify every member of all the soap wiki-projects about this FFD? I havent even listed the FFD in categories for deletion in the wikiprojects! All I did was discuss my feelings about the way the project was going with one user whom I have edited with since I joined.GunGagdin 14:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment The actor/character is styled for the role. I might be able to take a random picture of the actor driving around in his Porsche with his hair slicked back, in ray bans, or wearing a tuxedo at a film premiere, but that's not exactly a factual representation of the working-class character he's meant to portray. Not to mention the actor ages. Would it be appropriate to use an image of the actor when he no longer looks like the character he played? Maybe his hair has altered since he left. He could have a nose ring. It would be ridiculous to suggest that you could use an image of Harrison Ford in his late 60s to portray Han solo from 32 years ago. Going by arguments here, that's what should be done.GunGagdin 14:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment: Teapots are for tea, not tempests. Stay cool, folks. It's really not that important. – Quadell 15:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Keep per Stifle's comments. If the character in a visual medium is notable enough to have an article, they are generally notable enough to have a single image. — BQZip01 —  22:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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