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German WP and WikiNews are both running FlaggedRevisions, and I haven't noticed the Four Horsemen, lambs and lions living together, or the sun rising in the west. I think we should at least give FR a chance--even if it's just to lessen the incentive for things like the BLP-deletion-o-rama of the past
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concerns are of paramount importance, and necessitate the implementation of effective measures to stop defamation before it is viewed by the general public. For articles of any type, both our perceived and actual reliability would be improved through the reduction of random graffiti and deliberately
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for new and inexperienced people to contribute, or for one-time visitors to make minor improvements, because now those edits are less threatening, since they do not appear in the default version until validated. Also, we owe it to our readers to give them texts with zero threat of vandalism. Using
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I am 100% in favour of this. Me and my wife were talking about flagged revisions with our friends Artie and the microphone. Now normally me and Artie fight like two starving pugs in a glass box but on this, there was complete agreement all around the dinner table - the issue with BLPs is far TOO
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It seems unreasonable for Knowledge (XXG) to want support from the community (via donations and of course countless hours of volunteer work) while holding back important features the community needs. I believe the phrase "biting the hand that feeds you" is rather applicable here.
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that this long-promised and essential feature be working by December 31, 2009, at the latest. If necessary, reassign personnel and other resources from lower-priority development projects—which is to say, all other development projects—and get this implemented
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Yes, we need it available to be properly tested. I have some doubts whether it will be workable or prove to be confusing, but there is no way to tell without trying it on a subset of BLPs, and then seeing if it can be moved to all BLPs. We should
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I don't like making demands, but I agree, this has been taking too long (partly because brion left, but we should have had the developers force in place for this before that). So as an editor, I sign this. It does not reflect on our developers.
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So very long overdue. I realize that most vandalism is quickly reverted, but it is horrible that someone can go to a page soon after erroneous facts is introduced and then actually believe that fact since they trust Knowledge (XXG). --
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Support in principle. Not sure what kind of hell can be raised, and I note nothing has been stated (therefore there's nothing that would likely become a bluff, as I believe has happened with prior petitions on this subject).
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IMPORTANT for there not to be a better way to protect their safety!! Yes! And that is also a yes from my wife and from Artie and from the microphone. Hope you guys are all good - keep fighting the good fight! Your old pal,
137:: We are asking that this MediaWiki extension be enabled on the English Knowledge (XXG). This is not a request for implementing a new policy here, merely the ability to allow the community to do so, if it so chooses. 4834:- think of this petition as a wiki version of a clipboard with room for a signature and maybe a small comment - the talk page is where you can chat to the folk holding the clipboard, and anyone else milling around. 829:
some quality editors who have been avoiding Knowledge (XXG) because of its chaotic nature. A real expert who knows how to write and isn't out to push an agenda is more valuable than 1,000 semi-literate teenagers.
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Support, as long as this petition isn't taken as consensus to roll out new policy right away. I think once we have the technical capability, one big final discussion should go ahead, then we take action.
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Look at the odd bedfellows this has brought together! I don't like "demands," but ... I do want to support the rapid rollout of Flagged Revisions, which could lead to quite a few other improvements. --
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Meant to sign this quite awhile ago. Not sure how we actually will want to use this, but we need the capability to test it and determine how it can best help us (primarily with the BLP problem). --
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as approved by consensus. I know that implementation and testing is ongoing and is progressing, if somewhat slowly. Of course, the interface should be finished before rolling it out here. --
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I've been on both WikiNews and WikiBooks. For some people, here's analogy in terms of prone to vandalisim: Knowledge (XXG) is to Wikibooks as a bed of spikes is to a LaZ-Boy. Get my point?
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Without entering into the rumours about what is holding up implementation of flagged revisions, it is regrettable that there has been no progress and we have further BLP problems such as
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Seriously, pull Werdna off LiquidThreads for as long as it takes to get this on the road. FlaggedRevs is the most important item in the technical pipeline, and it's blocking the plug.
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It is important for the Knowledge (XXG) community to be able to test this extension and develop a policy around its use in order for the encyclopedia to continue to evolve. —
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What was the point in creating it, if it isn't at least going to receive a trial run? If it's not trialled, how can anyone know if it will work, or how best if can be used?
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Many issues remain, not least the extent of its implementation. But I most certainly want it switched on so we can actually implement what does get agreed. ~
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Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the
847:- my vote should not be construed as criticism of the Foundation staff in any way, but rather as very strong support for making this a top priority -- 3794:
We've had the community consensus for a flagged protection version of flagged revs for quiet some time now, lets get this show on the road ;) Best,
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Flagged revisions are needed on BLP articles for safety and on other controversial artilces (for example ones related to evolution) for accuracy.
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We've had this on Wikinews for some time. It works a dream over there. Simple and easy to use, with huge benefits. Follow us and get FlaggedRevs!
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We should at least be able to determine what effect they will have on participation, and slapping it onto all BLPs is definitely a good idea.
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Support. As this petition for "immediate action" is now more than two years old, it's getting pretty funny. What a comment on WP inertia!
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This 'demand' is just too lulzy not to support 9000 percent. Only software engineers will get the joke though, I suspect. Poor bastards.
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We.. leave them all alone until Wikimania . I'd say we should even give them a few weeks after that if there is some glitch. And then we
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I pushed to get Flagged Revisions at the Hebrew Wikisource, and it has been a very positive experience using the function. It makes it
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I think they're very possibly a beneficial addition, and the code's already written. Let's flip the switch, at least on a trial basis.
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The technical Problems should really be resolvable, since flagged revisions are enabled on the german wikipedia since over a year. --
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I supported it once and still support it today, and the sooner we have better protection for BLPs, the better Knowledge (XXG) is. --
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Over at tech, simulation models indicate flagged revisions may completely destabilize the universe — bring 'em on, forthwith. ^^
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With reservation against the word "demand" as I know the Wikimedia Foundation does a great job, I do believe it's time. --
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There's no reason that the community shouldn't be able to implement the extension if it reaches consensus to do so. —
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I'm going to echo WereSpielChequers above and say that LiquidThreads can go take a hike, we need this much more.
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Flagged revisions are going to significantly increase the respectability of Knowledge (XXG) in the wider world.
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Since this isn't getting enough attention from the foundation. I'm not sure it'll work though but worth a try.
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Read the Flagged Revisions page, agree with the BLP only restriction, and think this: "A gentle, respectful
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Yes, please. Get it in gear... On an off-topic note... "BLPs smell like sewers." That isn't anything like
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Start with BLP-- 300,000 articles. Semi-protect all the BLPs in the meantime. You could do that tomorrow.
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Come on, no way they can be so lazy as to not be able to press a button. Let's just do it. TURN THEM ON!
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I very much support the implementation of flagged revisions for BLPs on the English Knowledge (XXG).
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My vote should be construed as criticism of the Foundation staff for not making this a top priority.
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If this is the roll out of the trial, then yes, let's run it up the flagpole and see how it flies. –
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that the foundation's actions would introduce more delays. Unfortunately, it appears I was correct.
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I could swear I signed this before, but I guess not. No time like now to see this change happen!
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This should be a project which the board ensures is delivered (on time would have been good..).
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To promulgate throughout the world malicious accusations is without a doubt an abomination.
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I have to agree with everyone else. I also wonder why I didn't even notice this until now!
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I support this, since I think all vandalism and unconstructive edits should get noticed. —
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Seriously, what are you people doing? How is it possible that this hasn't been done yet?
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Maybe a bit more of the donations should be spent on developers, give em what they want!
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It's working well on the German Knowledge (XXG), and should be no less successful here.
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Demand? .. hmmmm ... meh - why not, count me in for support of Mick's 9000 percent. —
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Flagged Revisions we can do this while at the same time keeping wiki collaboration.
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As an OTRS volunteer, I can testify that this would substantially improve things.
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I was against FlaggedRevs, but now I realize the true extent of the BLP problem.
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We're so worried about scaring people off, but flagged revisions might actually
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This should have been a much higher priority than liquid threads for talkpages.
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This was our decision to make in the first place, it's been sitting around for
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and implement it. It can always be turned off later if it causes problems. -
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Oh hell, why not join the crowd. But I only support FlaggedRevs for BLPs! --
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And I volunteer to help review the revisions log to keep the backlog short.
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Please at least start the trial. (I did ask on wikitech-l for an update.) -
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assume it will be on balance effective here, but we do need to find out.
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At the very least for BLPs, and as soon as is technically possible. --
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It's been discussed time and again, and now is the time to implement.
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Quote: "The encyclopedia anyone can vandalize or reduce quality on"
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How could I miss an opportunity to tell sysadmins to be quicker? :)
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Sure, and I share Shirik's opinion about the word "demand". Thanks!
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Knowledge (XXG):Flagged protection and patrolled revisions petition
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If we're going to do it at all, let's get it over with already.--
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Not that this poll will do anything, but the more the merrier.
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This mustn't end up in a state of indefinite renewed delays.
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Please stop jerking us around, we don't deserve it. - Dank (
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This needed to be done, roughly, yesteryear, if not sooner.
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I support this on all BLP edits by nonautoconfirmed users.
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I've seen it work on German Knowledge (XXG). It's great. --
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With a heavy sigh and the hope that none are turned away,
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to implement it in order to test it out for two months.
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Thoughts, feedback and comments on the talk page please
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At least implement on a trial basis. Loooong overdue!--
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Given the magnitude of the BLP problem, it's overdue.--
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It would generally improve and help things greatly.
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This page is currently inactive and is retained for
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Knowledge (XXG):Petition Opposing Flagged Revisions
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Knowledge (XXG):Fallacy of the revelation of policy
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Do it now for goodness sake. 2305:Please, before we all die of old age - 3940:It's about time we gave it a go... -- 433:Needs to be done before it receives a 2529:It would be great to find FPPR in my 1173:Unbelievably past due. 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2009 (UTC) 170:14:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC) 161:14:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC) 147:14:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC) 4752:No reason not to have this.— 4725:02:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 4716:01:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 4694:22:41, 27 January 2012 (UTC) 4685:15:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC) 4609: 4562:03:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC) 4528:18:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC) 4506:05:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC) 4272:09:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC) 4258:23:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC) 4245:21:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC) 4223:20:10, 30 January 2010 (UTC) 4210:17:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC) 4195:17:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC) 4172:00:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC) 4152:20:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC) 4133:07:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC) 4121:06:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC) 4107:08:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC) 4093:17:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 4063:07:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 4051:21:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC) 4037:12:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC) 4017:13:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC) 4002:09:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC) 3988:03:22, 12 January 2010 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The sooner the better. 1693: 1633: 1630: 1627: 1624: 1621: 1618: 1614: 1611: 1608: 1605: 1456:I am looking forward to use 1332: 1326: 1319: 1107: 993:Immediately, if not sooner. 906: 98:) 19:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC) 4784:05:09, 23 August 2012 (UTC) 4671:13:57, 6 October 2011 (UTC) 4653:07:06, 22 August 2011 (UTC) 4492:01:29, 30 August 2010 (UTC) 4466:16:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC) 4452:03:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC) 4439:03:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC) 3936:15:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC) 3923:23:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC) 3908:14:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC) 3874:21:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC) 3852:15:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC) 3838:11:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC) 3829:23:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 3810: 3804:22:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 3790:16:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 3776:14:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 3758:10:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 3745:21:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 3732:16:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 3715:12:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 3707:09:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 2940: 946:(I am Czar of all Russias!) 4895: 4859:User talk:Jimbo Wales/poll 4770:03:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC) 4576:01:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 4335:12:16, 27 April 2010 (UTC) 4321:23:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC) 4307:00:24, 11 April 2010 (UTC) 1584:Gently, respectfully, but 300:in a one-horse open sleigh 22: 15: 4879:Knowledge (XXG) petitions 4748:22:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC) 4637:16:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC) 4627:Jumping on the bandwagon. 4425:03:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC) 4379:14:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC) 4365:09:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC) 1660:Santa Claus of the Future 773:Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 721:Not holding my breath... 88: 4739:14:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC) 4623:09:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC) 4603:18:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC) 4486: 4405:The community says YES! 4401:05:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC) 1217:Let's get it over with. 4590:12:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 4510:This is really needed. 4357:07:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 2625:incorrect information. 174:...or Knowledge (XXG). 4874:Inactive project pages 4830:Please discuss on the 4111:Please and thank you. 2953:Firsfron of Ronchester 1378:I believe it is time. 1008:Pharaoh of the Wizards 254:WTF is taking so long? 4743:I support this 100%! 4595:Lothar von Richthofen 4176:WTF is taking so long 2992:It's time already. -- 2249:December21st2012Freak 1586:very firmly demanding 1416:This is becoming the 252:A gentle, respectful 4516:Gaia Octavia Agrippa 4488:What did I do wrong? 4125:We need this ASAP!! 2974:Let's try it out. - 2928:(please help review 2429:♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 1544:Alexander Chancellor 1420:of Knowledge (XXG). 671:I predicted back in 311:For what it's worth 118:Wikimedia Foundation 3833:Do it now, please. 2930:urgent FAC and FARs 1485:Yes, we need this. 341:Delicious carbuncle 108:smell like sewers. 4182:" sums it up well. 1418:Duke Nukem Forever 973:(spill your mind?) 151:First not-author. 79:start raising hell 4818: 4807: 4766: 4621: 4616:reven i susej eht 4399: 4150: 4102: 4090: 4033: 3980:Werner Heisenberg 3958: 3954: 3948: 3827: 3727:whisper in my ear 3687: 3638: 3508: 3444: 3430: 3062: 2942:Blood 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WP:FRP

historical
village pump
Jimbo Wales
talk
BLPs
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Wikimedia Foundation
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Scott Mac (Doc)
14:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hipocrite
talk
14:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
FT2
14:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Privatemusings
talk
06:00, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Steve Smith
talk
14:54, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Ϣere
Spiel
14:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Lara
15:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

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