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depending on which spelling you prefer). Both closed with a recommendation to delete and maybe redirect. The redirect appears to have been created largely to preempt the repeated recreation of the deleted content. I do consider a protected redirect to be a better solution than a protected redlink.
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Alright, so it was transwikied. I still don't see the logic in having a soft redirect to an outside project. Wikia is a for-profit entity. In principle, we should not be redirecting people away from
Knowledge to a non-Wikimedia project. This is not a good precedent to set. I would think that
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Ambiguous redirect. While Pat Green did indeed have a song with this name (a very good song I might add), I think that the Bruce
Hornsby song might be more recognizable, even if it wasn't a single. (Note that the Pat Green song probably isn't notable enough for its own page, which was why I
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Sorry, I don't understand the deletion rationale. It seems more like a justification for creating a dab page with the multiple songs (but pointing to the artists instead of the song titles). Pat Green's "Dixie
Lullaby" is not only mentioned in the target article, it has also charted on the
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If this is going to be a redirect, it should redirect to a
Knowledge article, not wikia. Up until now I'd never seen a redirect outside of the WikiMedia foundation's projects. I'd like a consensus that we don't redirect to non-Wikimedia projects. Wiktionary: fine. Wikia: no.
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the redirect to -phob-. The term is a legitimate if cumbersome piece of medical terminology and is a valid concept for inclusion in wikipedia. The AfDs have decided that we do not need a separate article for the term, so redirect to the generic phobia article.
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article due to size. A redirect to "list of Mall-Wart locations" also won't work, as many of the stores were later closed when Wal-Mart replaced them a little over a decade later with free-standing stores in new locations, leaving nothing but a trail of
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for a short period of time to help transition. Using soft redirects like this isn't uncommon when a page is transwikied. It's useful to help prevent page recreation and helps direct both readers and editors to where the article's new home is. It's a
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Good point. From the fact that it's a redirect to the Naruto Wikia, someone obviously thinks they're related, so I'd support
Rossami's idea as well, if the target article included reference to Akimichi. Until then, it's not an appropriate
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it would be much more useful than a list of Sonic restaurants. However, I would be inclined to support only a partial list of stores that were actually notable in their own right, either in the world or within the
Woolworth company.
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without prejudice for recreation using reliable sources. Recreation can be either a stand-alone article or a redirect to Woolco, if the list is small enough to fit there. Given the historical nature of
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