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and micromanagement are both essential to playing a good game of, to name the most notable game (due to the fact that it is the only game with a professional league, to my knowledge), Starcraft. Micromanagement involves managing the details, while macromanagement involves the big picture. You can't win a game without being very good at both. If you don't want two articles for this, then the main article should be called "Micromanagement and macromanagement (computer gaming).
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have written about the concept of macromanagement using that term and in this context. Encyclopedias are, by definition, tertiary sources. Until we have writings of others which we can synopsize, we have nothing to say. In the meantime, the redirect provides a historical record in case anyone ever
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Those concerns are nonsense. They refer to micromanagement as "losing sight of the big picture by paying excessive attention to details", while they refer to macromanagement as "getting it right" or "staying so focused on the big picture that you ignore the details". This is bollocks. Macromanagement
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Macromanagement is the exact opposite of micromanagement. Micromanagement involves minor issues like giving commands to individual units, whereas macromanagement involves keeping track of the game's economy. The very meaning of "micro" versus "macro" should make this obvious. Yet, for some reason,
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Actually, I did notice that the target article was about a gay nightclub, I just don't think the gay community refers to it as "Gay hull". But since this discussion is all but closed now, any further argument is moot.
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You're missing the core point of the prior discussions. People have written independently about the concept of micromanagement as applied to computer gaming. No one in the prior discussions (or here) has provided
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macromanagement redirects to micromanagement. This makes no sense and can only confuse people, especially as the word "macromanagement" isn't even listed as a comparison to micromanagement in the article.
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is a gay nightclub. The article was speedy-deleted for blatant advertising, which is fair enough considering its content. I've deleted the redirect in sympathy with the speedy-deletion. -
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I don't think retargeting this redirect to a dab page that also lists people who are not athletes would be in any way disruptive. --Blanchardb-
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Possibly created as an attack against the clientele of the target article's subject. No reference in the target article. Blanchardb-
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And it misleads people who go to the article -now- into thinking that macromanagement and micromanagement are the same thing.
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is already nothing but a disambiguation page to athletes by that name, so the redirect is both unclear and redundant.
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does restore (and possibly rename) the micromanagement article to a version covering both topics.
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 12, 2008
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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Redirect is confusing. There are multiple athletes named Eddie Wilson. The page
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Another issue I just discovered here: there is another Eddie Wilson page (
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Index

Knowledge:Redirects for discussion
Log
July 11
July 13
Gay hull
Fuel Hull
User:Risker
blatant advertising
User:Richardcavell
redirect with no target
UsaSatsui
talk
17:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
22:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Richard Cavell
talk
01:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
01:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Macromanagement (computer gaming)
Micromanagement (computer gaming)
Lenticel
00:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
DDSaeger
talk
15:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Nov 2007
Dec 2005
DDSaeger
talk
21:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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