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462:. The keep arguments are purely theoretical, while the nomination and delete !votes have given valid reasons as to why these redirects are potentially confusing and counterproductive. The relative obscurity of the template's name to someone who doesn't already know of its existence makes it a highly unlikely search term anyway. ~ 202::I don't think we have to delete it. Maybe we can write something about the Kodra and other massacres, where women and children from Korça were massacred by Cretan irrgulars. What about the massacres in Kossovo? What about the starving Chams, children and old people in the Greek-Albanian border? If you need any refs, I can help. 654:
per Black Falcon. I am sympathetic to TMiQ's reasoning in terms of the second one, but in truth they DO both look like a WikiProject link and so those sorts of arguments carry less weight in my mind in this case. Since it's not a project but a tool, I think less is more, especially the simpler,
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per NE2. You can use things such as this for search terms, as doing an advanced search in non-mainspace areas is possible. Seems harmless enough, and I can see it being searched by someone at somepoint, who then finds their way to the main template.
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article by the same editor, so there is no attribution issue; in any case, the material has been gone from that article since February 2004 as well. Neither represents a useful searching or linking term for the target.
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Not properly descriptive of its target. A reader searching for "Hammer thingy" might well be looking for any sort of hammer (...thingy), and a link through this is essentially an easter egg.
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Yes, as I explained. If I'm only a casual tagger with WikiProject templates, I might forget the exact name of the "banner shell". "Multiple WikiProjects" is a plausible thing to try. --
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Unused, no need to have Every Combination of capitalization for this (as many different versions makes it harder for WikiProject tagging bots to recognize the shells). Keep it simple. –
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article and navigating from there; I can't imagine that more than a negligible number of people would ever search on "Hammer thingy", especially without trying "Hammer" first.
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Both of these originate as an attempt to add content on a protest of David Icke in February 2004, redirected the same month. The material in question was also added to the
1457:. I linked to the target page in the deletion log so that editors who have bookmarked the article can continue to find the page in project-space and update their links. – 220:, there's northing stopping you from creating an article on it. This discussion is about the redirect that leads to articles that don't mention anything about genocide.-- 1421:
is a widely-used and -recognised template, so this seems to me to be a case where a redirect with such a different title is more likely to be confusing than helpful. –
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Ah, CSD R2 suggests leaving the link there for a few days, probably so that people can update their links. I won't tag it then, the RfD will give people time. --
913:, multiple targets it could be redirected to, but not a suitable term for a disambiguation page, and not really a plausible search term for an encyclopedia. -- 1094:. This was a mistake on my part but the appropriate targets for these redirects are redlinks and therefore I propose the redirects should be deleted. 1212:
as a plausible "search term" (which I'm using here mainly in the sense that someone who can't remember what the template is called might type it). --
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as implausible search terms. Neither have relevant information in the target page either to explain why such search term may be considered. --
332: 137:? Pyramid scheme? I seem to remember something about a pyramid scheme sucking in vast amounts of the population somewhere, but genocide? 17: 877: 749: 897: 727: 675: 1113: 1091: 569: 164: 576:. I don't see why anyone would type the second part as one word instead of typing it all as one word or as three separate words. β€” 356: 1415: 1173: 1075: 511: 487: 827:
be appropriate? Anyways, gets no traffic, has no history; whatever happens to this will have a trivial effect on the 'pedia.
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I think there were only very few uses and all made by a single editors. I can't be bothered to check exactly right now. --
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We have plenty of redirects to the same target. This one a) is unused, b) has not similar name with all the others
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a
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no context in the target article. If only this had been speedied as a hoax when created, but it got
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 9, 2009
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reason #5, as it is a cross-namespace redirect from the article namespace to the project namespace.
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This redirect has gone back and forth. I'm really not aware of an appopriate target, if any.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The original article was a hoax. None of the suggested targets are appropriate.--
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Were these really used? Very few links probably added by a single user once. --
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Anyone who is looking for a random hammer probably would start by loading our
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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That proves nothing. Still the current redirection is misleading.
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I originally created these redirects and pointed them to
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
Log
December 8
December 10
BLACK FALCON
06:50, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Albanian genocide
Greater Albania
links to redirect
history
stats
Grsz
00:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
WP:ZAPped
mass suicide
Josh Parris
00:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
History_of_Albania#1990s
Josh Parris
00:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
History of post-Communist Albania
Grsz
00:48, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Ptolion
talk
19:39, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Guildenrich
talk
10:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Ptolion

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