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1206: 884: 65: 1031:(correcting a clear mistake), this article would be more likely to be reached, but I don't see any value in it, so I'm not asking for it to be moved (renamed). The idiom variant(s) might be a contribution over at Wiktionary, but they seem unimportant enough that I am not greatly inspired to try to roll them in there. 1002:
In addition to !votes on the fate of this redirect, I'd also appreciate hearing, from anyone who agrees that the whole lot of these should be deleted, how they think this should be accomplished without causing said trainwreck. My current thinking is to nominate them in batches of ~30, each one
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Looking at this article now, I declare that I should not have created it. Not with that exact title, and not at all. With surrounding quote-marks in its name, this article is unlikely to be reached (and its existence degrades a possible search). If the surrounding quote-marks could be removed
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Fair warning: I once tried to delete a useless, pointless, negative-value redirector that was carelessly created and then (unfortunately) replaced with a redirect instead of speedily deleted. In 2008, a completely worthless redirect was the surest survivor of a speedy delete request (on a
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That was my only edit that day, so the only context is my annoyed edit summary. The phrase "across the world" means the same as "around the world" or "all over the world" (though "across the world" sounds painfully wrong to
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per nominator. These are unlikely to be linked from articles, and interfere with how the search engine normally functions (when you search for "quoted phrase", it either takes you to the exact match for
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These first two common "types" can be handled by cold deletion, because there are no differences to reconcile, no information is lost, and no result changes:
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there are about 125 redirects that are fully enclosed in quotation marks. They uniformly seem like implausible search terms, and in my opinion should all be
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The remaining redirect pages can be handled in groups if other "types" are identified. Ultimately, unique redirect pages must be handled individually. -
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Consider grouping those 125 redirectors with quotes by their "type". Redirects of the same "type" can be handled together with greater confidence.
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2) The redirector with quotes accomplishes the same as go-to (filling the "Search Wikpedia" box on every page) without quotes. Example:
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over nothing, so I thought before I do anything else, I'd test the waters and nominate the first one alphabetically.
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The term "Macho Man" is not mentioned in the target article, so the reference in the redirect is unclear.
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 2, 2018.
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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the quotes, or if that doesn't exist then it gives you search results for "quoted phrase").
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1) The redirector with quotes is identical to another redirector without quotes. Example:
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Kossack, 1911, per Dronen & Blend (2015). They should be deleted. Yours Truly,
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Not mentioned in the target. Cody played a character usually referred to as the "
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an RFD (on one defender who led with "I know nothing of this subject..."). See
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Seems like a plausible variant of "Crying Indian" a reader could search for. --
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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How did I create an article with surrounding quote-marks in its name?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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also is correctly spelled, but is apparently a synonym of
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I can create one by hand-editing an "action=edit" URL.
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for an example) that's not really appropriate here.
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Knowledge:Redirects for discussion
Log
January 1
January 3
January 2
Knowledge:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 January 10#Michael Zazarino
talk page
deletion review
Tavix
02:47, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Sad indian
Iron Eyes Cody
talk
links
history
stats
Crying Indian
Arms & Hearts
talk
22:32, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
CoffeeWithMarkets
talk
01:14, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
SteveStrummer
talk
03:12, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Lenticel
01:03, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
BDD
talk

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