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In sum, no good options so disambiguation seems the least bad way to aid navigation here. It also offers the potential to add entries as more plausible targets are identified. Of course I may have missed something, and I also respect that it doesn't take much to nudge the needle here.
661:. I think a correct use (present participle/noun form) should take precedence over a spelling difference (no space vs. space). If desired, the hatnote at the current target can be expanded to provide a link directly to other most likely use (
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Hi all, just notifying everyone that I've completed the move that Dsuke requested. I think this should fully resolve the issue, but please feel free to ping me or drop a talk page message if there's anything else that needs to be done.
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Keeping is defensible, a lot of people will be looking for German chocolate cake when they type that, nonetheless it can potentially confuse a good deal of searchers as well, probably fixable with hatnoting, but is it really
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I don't know why that phonetic symbol came up when I typed a colon. I think my computer was on "international
Phonetic Alphabet" instead of "Use native Keyboard". My mistake, I hope you can correct this. Regards,
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