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112:: I am pleased to join in nominating Georgewilliamherbert for administrator status. In his prior RfA, my !vote was "Support per nom, answers to questions, comments above, good edit history, contributions on WP:AN and ANI, lack of any reason to believe tools will be misused, and the principle that support on an RfA doesn't imply endorsement of every word the candidate ever wrote." Three months later, all still true (even the last part), and I have also come to know of his good work on the mailing list. I hope soon to welcome GWH to the ranks of administrators. 2567:. The concerns brought up in his last RfA were prominent enough and serious enough that I'm not comfortable supporting. I've also not had enough interaction with him since to verify to my satisfaction that he's learned enough for it not to be an issue anymore. I do grant it's clear Georgewilliamherbert has made substantial positive contributions. Due to those reasons, I'm not ready to oppose either; I need a chance to look more closely into it. George perhaps you could offer a way to demonstrate you've learned from the experience. - 2181:
content misunderstanding with both sides equally at fault or misunderstood, rather than condemning someone deliberately re-inserting unsourced critical material into an article after due warning. He admits that Jay is a friend - well, he's obviously allowing that to cloud his judgement. Conflicts of interests are fine, if they cause you step aside and stay silent. But he involved himself in the RfC to mitigate for a friend at the expense of defending policy and admin action. Would he act like this as an admin?--
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right now" and "it's a fraud or not real, delete it". I know others object to such inclusionism, but I make no apologies for it. I do practice different criteria for what I will advocate (!vote on) and what I'd do if say I get into AFD closing - if I have a personal strong opinion on it, it would best be left to an uninvolved admin to close rather than me doing it.
1837:-- I first encountered this editor during his first RfA and was impressed with good sense after digging into his history then. I don't think he's lost it since then. He's taken on more controversial issues here than some other candidates so of course his track record won't be 100% (nobody's is in those cases) but he seems consistently level-headed and civil. -- 1689:, including his answer to question 6. Surely, he would not get involved as an admin in a BLP situation with someone he has 15-year personal ties to, so there are no impartiality concerns in my book. BLP is not the only policy that applies in cases where it comes up, and it's the right approach to handle BLP issues while being mindful of other issues like 214:
to do or know need improvement, particularly in some engineering topics (alloys, composite materials, etc), aerospace, and a few naval/ship topics. I don't personally have the energy and interest in driving an article through FA status - I'll put in the content, context, references, categorize and wikilink, and so on, but there are too many hoops to FA.
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I've made it a habit to leave warnings and comments on vandal talk pages where someone vandalized a page on my watchlist and another editor or admin cleaned it up without warning the offender. Going the extra mile to communicate is important. Putting something useful in the edit summary, and comments on the talk pages, etc. are important.
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other, even if we have to defuse a problem or deal with a problem user. The worst thing in the world is for a dispute between good contributors to blow up and one or more parties walk away over it. The essay on this remains woefully thin so far, but it is something I want to work on (and see others work on) over time.
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Regarding the deletion guidelines, yes, I object to deleting articles on subjects which a reasonable person can research and identify sources for, even if we haven't found reliable sources by WP definition at a given time. There is an important difference between "we can't encyclopedically cite this
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was improperly blocked or bitten based on the one edit then that's a separate issue to take up with Clown or the unblock-en-l list; I didn't touch ASM's account. On review, I think I may have been wrong to tie him to the IP vandals, the actual edits made were different nature. He hasn't appealed to
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BLP is set (per Jimbo etc) on a higher level than normal content issues. I strongly disagree that there's something wrong with AGF or taking time to do research for BLP related issues which are not evidently immediate and serious. The specifics over which this most recent incident happened had been
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Hi George, I'm not sure it does clarify your position. I take your point about it being preferable to enforce policy non-aggressively whenever possible, but I'm still worried about "if you have to apply BLP, you still have to operate under AGF ..." If you were faced with either assuming good faith of
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My concern is that in the process of handling BLP concerns, one should not use excessive force, forgetting the pillars of AGF and working with the community. It's not just important that we enforce policy - we also have to identify situations where the policy's interpretation and situational context
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It's also important to listen to even the screaming angry people, because sometimes they do have a good point, and often they're perfectly nice people who just got pushed too far and are venting on us. We get a lot of annoying people and vandals complaining to unblock-en-L too, and nobody's patience
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I guess my approach is to assume good faith if it's internal disputes and try to if there's an external party, and work to resolve problems and address abuses without making it personal. It can be hard to not snap at people (I know I've done it), but recognizing that and trying not to is important.
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I got in a little trouble last RFA for not having a FA or GA yet. It's not that I don't believe in Knowledge (XXG) being about the content - I don't know how many new articles I've started, I stopped counting a while ago, but it's in the many dozens and I have a list somewhere offline of more I want
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from what I have seen of George, he is a great editor whom I would, and do, trust. I have seen George's polite and accurate respsonses and discussion on unblock-en-l and see his contributions to other admin tasks. Although he could definitely use the tools greatly for unblocking reasons, I am sure
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I still think that defending each other is very important - there are WP users who aren't "community members" who seek to abuse the project's goals and members, and we all need to stand together against that. We also need to offer solidarity to editors and admins when they get into scraps with each
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I saw that. I also saw Georgewilliamherbert's outside view, and his clarification. I came here having read the RfC; I looked at the nomination, and the statements of those who supported and opposed; then I reluctantly opposed and said why. I still reluctantly oppose. Beyond that, I'm content to let
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When I'm active on AFD I do try to locate and cite sources. In the Orca one, I was looking, but didn't find until too late for the initial AFD, as I recall. In a lot of other cases, I've dug up sources for stuff on AFD or PROD and sourced the article properly. There are only so many hours in the
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My problem is that he has spoken of a 'flame war' and an 'assumption of bad faith'. I can take criticism over the block, but I can't accept this as anything other than a flawed, biased judgement, which while accepting Jay's BLP violation wants somehow to see two editors both at fault in a dispute -
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Doc's opposition is more serious and deserves a response. As I understand it George is primarily referring to the block rather than the removal of material from the article, and I think his position that the block was not necessary at that time is a legitimate one. I agree there were better ways to
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Enough time has passed since the issues I had last time, concerning his support in the past for disruptive users. I think I can trust him now with the tools, and have been impressed with what I seen of him in dealing with unblock requests, in the enwiki-l mailing list, and here on the wiki. Please
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Avoid making it a two-way argument - ask for other admins to review, or if it appears to be serious enough to require unilateral action first despite the controversy, then do it but take it to ANI or some other appropriate forum for review, and make sure that the other party knows that I'm inviting
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was qualified and was offered largely, notwithstanding that RfA is not a vote, to offset those opposes that I thought to be relatively insubstantial and unrelated to the likelihood of GWH's abusing or misusing the tools, but I am happy now to be able to support fully and without other motive; I am
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Over time, I've observed that the unblock-en-L admins are getting better at communicating with people they block. I think all of us on that list appreciate that sometimes, people just don't understand, and the more info we put in warning messages and block messages the better off things will be.
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I regret that the candidate's response to question 6 has strengthened my opposition. He now characterises my long discussion with the BLP violater as a 'flamewar'. That's riddiculous, and an assumption of bad faith, (almost a personal attack) on me. He seems to wish to present this as a two-sided
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There are certainly BLP related issues which justify immediate strong action and if necessary followup discussion and consensus. I do not agree that this case was one of them in general, from the specific information available to me, in my opinion. The extra half hour or hour wouldn't have hurt
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per his A6. I strongly feel that WP:CIVIL is our most fundamental and crucial rule, since without civility we won't be able to build an encyclopedia in a collaborative fashion, but WP:BLP trumps everything else, period. When a BLP issue arises (typically poorly sourced or unsourced controversial
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And I second Mongo's advice regarding unblocking and wheel warring. I, like Aude, had concerns in the past about his support for disruptive users. I hope that this does not return to be a problem in the future, but from what I can see of the user's most recent actions on AN/I I feel compelled to
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I still object to giving anyone free passes; as I said earlier, to me good faith is pretty much automatic with long established editors of good standing, but even good people do bad things sometimes. We need to hold experienced users accountable for mistakes, without berating or abusing them.
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Keep in mind the possibility that I'm the party misjudging the situation if it's involving interpretation of a policy or grey area, and act accordingly. That's not "don't act", that's "be prepared to have my mind changed, and don't do anything I will regret or feel guilty about if I change my
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handle the situation, though I do not hold Doc at fault since Jay's edits were obviously inappropriate. Nothing in George's comments suggest to me that he disagrees with the important point, which is that the material should not have been included in the article without reliable sources.
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Do you take the point that BLPs have to be handled differently from other articles? That is, do you accept that AGF and taking time to do research is fine for other articles, but that anything contentious in a BLP that's unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately?
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friend as well. Does all the things we like (fixing vandalism, using edit summaries, being civil, not biting) and as far as I can tell none of the things we don't like, with the sole exception of reserving judgement on a case which is probably better forgotten, which is why
82:) - George. A fine editor, a thoughtful contributor to the project, a long-standing contributor on the unblock list, patiently explaining to blocked users what they have done wrong. An independent person with no trace of groupthink, a useful "critical friend" and a useful 1199:. It's a pleasant surprise to see this user up for adminship again. I nominated him last time and he was rejected for what I thought were pretty frivolous reasons, and I hope that this time, without the kiss of death of my nomination ;), he sails through this process. 481:
When I said that BLP should not trump AGF, my intention was not to suggest that we shouldn't have a BLP policy, nor that it's of secondary importance compared to other policies. Jimbo and the community consensus are that BLP is really really important. I agree with
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which could have been averted had with side backed off. No other serious party to the RfC sees it as such. His pithy 'BLP does not trumph AGF' demonstrates a total lack of judgement in the key area of BLP enforcement, and an inability when faced with his 'friend
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I haven't seen copious amounts of George on-wiki to make a fully-fledged decision based totally on that, but his unblock-en-l responses - to which I subscribe, so every response of his ends up in my inbox and subsequently read - gives me great confidence.
759:. I think enough time has elapsed since the last RfA for the previous issue to be put to rest. Your contributions are still stellar, and two people I respect a lot had enough faith in you to nominate you for adminship personally. My pleasure to support. – 2318:, I think, is reassuring in that regard (and not just because it's a statement I wrote). I have no doubts about Georgewilliamherbert's upholding high standards in this area despite his partial disagreement with the handling of one particular incident. 496:
I think it's increasingly important over time that WP admins know how to address problems without provoking confrontational fights as a result. AGF should have suggested that they should cooperate and talk it out rather than revert-warring over
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I tend to agree with the above. On his last nomination, similar concerns showed up, leading me to doubt his judgement with respect to 3RR, cooldown blocks and dealing with socks. His statement about BLP seems to indicate improvement is lacking.
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material), unless the issue is clearly bogus (i.e. the sources are clearly high quality and acceptable), the item in question must be 'shot on sight' (i.e. removed immediately), followed by discussion if necessary. This is non-negotiable.
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that may have been my fault, I saw the accept from GWH while editing in my optional Qs and took it live. But you can see his previous answers by following the link to the previous RfA. I'm sure he's editing in his answers as we speak.
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I don't want to hold this over George's head forever, but I'm still not comfortable with supporting his nomination due to his comments when MONGO was under attack from the ED folks. I won't oppose this time, but I cannot support.
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I opposed last time, for reasons separate from the MONGO affair, and, reading back, am quite unimpressed by the candidate's response to my concerns... but that was November, and I've seen nothing but good from GWH since.
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per my constructive interactions. Differing opinions are not causes for opposition; however, it should be expected that George should tread carefully around BLP issues, given a few but important concerns raised by some.
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In this situation, we had a respected admin, whose intent it was to enforce an important policy, come into conflict with a respected editor, who agrees with that policy. The result was an escalating flamewar and a
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I am in the process of emailing Doc and another admin in a side discussion on this. I think that this is a valid question, but I'd prefer to answer it after we've had a chance to talk at least briefly offline.
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there for some time; spending an extra 10 min to hour researching, or researching and posting to ANI asking for input, would not have materially changed the damage potential from the potential BLP violations.
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My apologies on timing, all; the nom was made as I was walking in to interview someone, which took 4 hrs. I now need to eat lunch, and catch up on email, and will respond as soon as possible afterwards.
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The first issue is a routine disagreement on a deletion. The second, far from newbie-biting, seems to reflect that the candidate noted on AIV that vandalizing IP's appeared to be related to an editor who
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failed. These events were not one of our stellar moments. Time, I think, to put that behind us and hand George a mop and bucket to help him better do the good things he already does for the project.
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Per two nominators I have a lot of respect for and for a better appreciation by Georgewilliamherbert in regards to the idea of community solidarity against harassment, as evidenced partly in his
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Since his last RfA, my overall impression of this candidate’s interaction with others has been good. I don’t have any concerns with giving him the advanced tools. May they serve you well.
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I didn't intend that comment as a slam on Doc, nor do I think Jay is blameless. Either of them handling the situation less confrontationally would have resulted in no serious problem.
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with consequences for the subject(s) of the article and Knowledge (XXG). If after warnings they continue to do so, blocks may regrettably be required however sincere those users are.
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Knowing that sometimes I want someone else to "take over" if I get too upset, so I can go calm down, helps motivate me to be that neutral person to come help out for others.
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Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Knowledge (XXG) in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for participants:
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I think it's become well-known that JzG and I, the two nominators, are strong advocates of enforcing the BLP policy. The fact that the candidate has endorsed my statement at
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Obviously some irony here, given that the candidate seems to have been responding in part to concerns on his prior RfA that he wasn't valuing solidarity of the community
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try and locate good sources for the articles in whose AfDs you participate and ask for their inclusion. Doc's reasoning for an oppose is compelling, I cannot support. —
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Yeah, I was tying the prior blocked account (blocked by Can't Sleep, Clown Will Eat Me some weeks prior) to the IP vandals I was reporting for a long term problem. If
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If there's a question where further research on my part may resolve it, spend the time to do that if someone else feels strongly enough about it to make a point of it.
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can be infinite, but it is important for us to spend effort on it. I think we've helped talk some now-productive contributors through issues they were blocked over.
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Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
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A lot of various issues have come up from unblock-en-l discussions, incuding a current Arbcom case about someone unblock-en-l communally recommended unblock on (see
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anyone, in a case where there was no OFFICE, OTRS, evident libel or slander or false claim, or major privacy violation, and would have avoided the confrontation.
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per Doc and answers to A6. I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise, but as things stand, I'm concerned that GWH doesn't understand the need for strict adherence to
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trying to be a useful neutral party. I've also attempted to keep defending admins and editors who come under attack there and elsewhere - putting time into the
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A "2", meaning it's the second nomination appears in the pagename, and the candidate's prior RfA is linked to in the first co-nomination and mentioned in both.
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I also am proud of what I've done with encouraging the final policy approval for deployment of AO blocks as a MediaWiki and Knowledge (XXG) feature.
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s wrongdoing to be either silent (which would have been acceptable), or impartial. I simply have no confidence in his judgement or impartiality.--
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As a disclaimer, the article topic involved in that dispute is of interest to me, and the other party is someone I have known for around 15 years.
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I've been in some conflicts before, when I thought editors or admins were causing problems, and also been involved in attempting to defuse others.
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of a non-free image. I won't oppose, though, based on reading all of the above, because he obviously does a heckuva lot for Knowledge (XXG). --
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Has the experience, has made a positive contribution over a long period, knows his way around and no reason to suspect he'll misuse the tools.
905:. I want to take this opportunity to remind George to be careful when doing any unblockings, and make sure that such unblocks won't result in a 490:
getting into fights over it. Any situation where a respected WP admin blocked a respected WP editor is one where something clearly went wrong.
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an editor or removing unsourced contentious material about a living person that the editor had added to an article, which would you do first?
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again reluctantly. Good wikipedian, but I've had reservations about judgement in the distant past which have recurred over A6 and Doc above.
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per Taxman (no relation). Shouldn't the headline stress that this is a second nomination, and shouldn't there be a link to the first one?--
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Ability to understand opposing perspectives serves him well as an editor and speaks well of his usefulness as an administrator. --
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Off-wiki, I'm also happy to be involved in unblock-en-l, and participate in discussions on wikien-l, foundation-l, among others.
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Per Mongo. We'll find a balance between BLP and AGF, and people like GWH will be at the forefront from what i've gleaned here.
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Fair enough. I put my comment under your !vote because it had to go somewhere, but it wasn't aimed specifically at you.
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Of your articles or contributions to Knowledge (XXG), are there any with which you are particularly pleased, and why?
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As an unblock-en-l regular, I have complete faith in George's dedication and professionalism as a administrator. --
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Despite noting the points made in oppose and neutral comments, my impression is very favourable on this candidate.
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Excellent candidate -- past problems were, I think, a mere difference of opinion largely incidental to adminship.
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I am still waiting for some additional offline discussion to resolve, but I wanted to put more of an answer here.
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Also, you've continued to be quite active on the unblock mailing list, to very great positive effect... (quoting
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which led to an Arbcom ruling against the abuser; I spent months trying to work with them before it got that far.
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Solidarity doesn't mean we can't say "I appreciate your work here, but please knock this thing over here off."
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Has made great improvements since the last RfA. I think Georgewililamherbert is qualified for adminship now.
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was going to support, but with regards to your last request I'm not too sure you've addressed the concerns.
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in here? :) Sorry for the premature transclusion, please don't hold it against George, it was my bobble. ++
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George asked me to elaborate my concerns from the previous RfA. I was pretty specific in my comments on
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either
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George has a demonstrable need for the tools and I feel confident that he can be trusted with them.
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Seems like an eminently sensible and well-balanced editor who knows what's good for the project.--
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I am grateful to him for establishing the rule that talk page comments should not be deleted. --
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship/nominate#What to do if you are nominated by someone else:
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Appears ready for the tools and can be trusted. I'm not dissuaded by the oppose comments below.
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It's not a contradiction to both be bold and willing to accept criticism and change your mind.
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will grow to be sufficiently fleshed out to be a project space essay, but it's not there yet.
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be careful in unblocking anyone, and make sure to discuss it with the blocking admin, etc. --
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Strong candidate. Will be helpful in doing admin's chores and building up Knowledge (XXG).
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Splendid work on Unblock-en-l and at ArbCom. No, I'm not kissing up, he's done a fine job.
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I don't think that's an either-or, first-second. It's "how do you approach the problem".
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I've added a moderate number of images as well, mostly illustrating technical articles.
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Great volunteer who will certainly help the project even more with some extra buttons
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are controversial and get more eyes on the problem. And we have to enforce policy
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over a drawing of the Starship Enterprise that we unquestionably cannot use as a
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Whilst I'm happy to AGF, BLP is non-negotiable. Not what I want in an admin.--
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The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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George has been one of our most consistently hard-working members of the list
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for comment/Doc glasgow#Outside view by Newyorkbrad
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that he can be trusted with the others as well and can find a use for them.
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the net effect on the project of GWH's becoming an admin should be positive
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review and comment, and make sure they feel welcome to participate in that.
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Unless you have an objection, this page really ought to be removed from
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or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.
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We need admins with his measured approach to balancing BLP and AGF.
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What sysop chores do you anticipate helping with? Please check out
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No objection, I removed it for now. Processes change over time. ++
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Prior to my first RFA I'd gotten into a couple of arguments with
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Plenty of experience and judgment, concerns below are trivial.
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship/Georgewilliamherbert (2)
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Some concerns, however he does have good contributions too. --
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Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
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until questions answered - can't fault the nom's though!
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seems to think that we should AGF rather then enforce BLP.
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Per bowl of petunias (provided he promises not to build a
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good user, good answers, good activity. Give him a mop. -
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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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related contributions. I added a lot of the content in
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Noted and agreed. That's what people's talk pages and
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are for. Talk first, particularly in controversies.
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Free Republic
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To quote the bowl of petunias: "Oh no, not again." 8-)
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Orca (supercar)
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A fine editor, and the oppose arguments are weak.--
735:Great looking contribs., sure to be a great admin. 1211:, George is the type of user we want as an admin. 1506:looks alright, just be csure to follow policy.-- 2515:- my only interaction with George was in an IFD 306:I've been (on and off as time allows) active on 2425:until the questions are answered. Please see 693:, cannot imagine that he'll misuse the tools. 610:Please keep criticism constructive and polite. 440:Could you elaborate on the statement you made 1260:. See him around a lot, sharp contributor. - 8: 1484:Hrm, thought he was already an admin Support 2388:Um... Why aren't the questions answered? - 2074:had been indef-blocked three weeks earlier 2058:; I cannot support at this time. Sorry. — 1100:Support. Angerafte, 20:36 22 February 2007 2090:unblock-en-L or elsewhere that I know of. 340:I asked you some essay questions on your 312:User:Georgewilliamherbert/DefendEachOther 255:User:Georgewilliamherbert/DefendEachOther 130:I gratefully accept this re-nomination. 65:(82/9/8); Ended 03:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC) 1732:better due to George's contribution. -- 291:Societal attitudes towards homosexuality 18:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship 289:There had been a series of abuses on 239:List of nuclear weapons#United States 7: 503:I hope this clarifies my position. 233:and some related ship articles, and 179:Things I spend time on now include 2076:. This is an ill-reasoned oppose. 780:on the strength of your quote :D. 31: 2688:Successful requests for adminship 1418:Of course he should be an admin. 2037:per his reasoning on this AfD – 1634:23:12, Saturday, 24 February '07 1583:is largely an extension) in our 159:Category:Knowledge (XXG) backlog 2154: 2148: 2014: 1608: 1488: 962: 959: 163:Category:Administrative backlog 1865:Can't sleep, clown will eat me 1626: 1312: 1294: 1292:Sounds like a good guy to me. 598:. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship
Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship/Georgewilliamherbert (2)
request for adminship
Georgewilliamherbert
Georgewilliamherbert
talk
contribs
his first nomination
Guy
Help!
17:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Newyorkbrad
17:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Georgewilliamherbert
18:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Category:Knowledge (XXG) backlog
Category:Administrative backlog
administrators
administrators' reading list
WP:AIV
WP:AN
WP:ANI
Georgewilliamherbert
01:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Washboarding
Structural steel
Aluminum alloy
Strength of ships
Alt.space
List of nuclear weapons#United States

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