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were well-written. The only outcome I flat-out opposed was having some, but not all, of the relevant countries named in these articles. The example I used was whether I would !vote to delete one non-notable middle school but not another. If it were up to me, they’d all go. But if some have support of the community, than all of them should stay. If I were asked to vote on a random middle school AfD today, I would vote just as I have on the apartheid articles; my first instinct is to delete them all, but if the community feels that they are notable, then keep them all. There is no contradiction here, and no hypocrisy. Indeed, I feel my position has been quite consistent as new articles have been folded in. There was no sense for me of a “bargaining” chip—my feeling was that the Allegations of Apartheid articles were a fait accompli (and that other articles seemed to have wide community support), and that AoIa having survived so many AfD’s, there would be no way to delete it in any case. I would have liked to see an up or down vote on all articles at once, but didn’t think people would go for it, so I did not propose it myself, feeling that all it would do is raise the temperature.
5863: 248:"You clearly don't understand why we created other apartheid articles. All allegations of apartheid articles are meant to antagonize people of that culture; the Israel one included. They are all POV forks. Their existance on wikipedia is proof that WP:NPOV does not apply to article titles or afd's. Since these articles cannot be balanced on their own, the only way to balance them is to create similar articles about other countries, thus making the attack page have less effect since country X isn't the only one being alleged of being an apartheid state. There is nothing encyclopediac about accusing somebody or some culture/country/religion of apartheid. It is all an attempt to push a POV." 2958:
me to task (as part of his group) for “creating” and “developing” the later Allegations of Apartheid articles. I have created none of the articles in question, nor have I “developed” them (or edited them in any way, to the best of my recollection). I have expressed my opinion, and some have doubted the sincerity of my opinions. I am sorry that is so, but not sorry to have expressed those opinions, which I continue to hold. These articles (beginning with the first one that was created by a now-banned sock farmer to disrupt Knowledge (XXG)), have been a huge waste of time, I think, and no reputable encyclopedia would even need a discussion as to whether to include them.
6385:) that it's difficult to do such an analysis, these very results are incomplete and prone to errors, and pressure of time means he will not be changing his contribution "for a few days". I feel that ArbCom members (and regular editors) should have confidence in what we write, and it seems to me unjustifiable - even disrespectful - to leave something faulty out on display. And such behavior risks degrading the work of other contributors, who can apparently produce tabulated results without objection or error. 6783:. The behavior detailed above - creating a series of inflammatory content forks to use as bargaining chips to press for the deletion of an offending article - is the very antithesis of good faith. Given that amnesty was offered in the last Arbitration case and things have reached this juncture, and that a group of editors has blatantly ignored ArbCom's prior injunction to negotiate in good faith, it would seem that stronger sanctions are warranted this time around. 1770: 1798:). Select excerpts include "here are clearly many editors on wikipedia who hate Israel", "will only agree to what is forced upon them", "his article is liked because many wikipedians (the ones who voted keep the Israel one, delete the others in the allegations of apartheid afds) hate Israel", "t is an attack page against Israel, and it was created by anti-zionists to inflame us", and "Israel haters saw that, and want to keep the article bias". 5881: 35: 1479:"Quite honestly, Jay, neither you nor Urthogie are doing yourselves any favours when you pretend that you've suddenly acquired an interest in French social policy; the arrival of the usual clique of (pro-)Israeli partisans all voting in lockstep with you shows rather clearly what's going on here." (running headlong into a violation of AGF that he's persisted with since then). 1487:
this imagined clique of Israeli partisans. And given the volume and vociferous tone of his participation (and dubious admin practices) one could argue that he as much as anyone has disrupted Knowledge (XXG) to make a point. Yet, nobody is doing this, for the simple reason that AGF dictates that we don't leap to such conclusions but rather focus on content. --
1132:"It is very POV to have articles accusing some countries of apartheid while not allowing a similar attacks against others. Allegations of apartheid is an attack against that country, and cannot be written in a neutral manner. The closest thing we can do to make it neutral is allow the allegations against every country. This is the only way to balance it out" 227:
substantial involvement from editors native to the countries under discussion (Ideogram - China, NicDumZ - France, ChrisO (myself) - Northern Ireland/UK, Cerejota - Puerto Rico). Some of these editors (notably Cerejota) have gone on to play significant roles in the development of the other articles after becoming aware of the wider controversy.
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ArbComm also delivered the following ruling in this case: "Editors of articles concerning apartheid are directed to negotiate in good faith appropriate article names using relevant policies and guidelines. If negotiation is unsuccessful, interested parties are required to enter into good faith mediation regarding the matter.") (refer:
1162:"Reguardless of what you think of the sourcing of the Allegations of Israeli apartheid, it is a POV fork, like all allegations of apartheid articles are. It is even more POV to allow the allegation on some articles but not others. This seems like an attempt to delete all allegations of apartheid articles except the Israel one" 677:"As I have said elsewhere, I generally do not like "Allegations of" articles (or articles that amount ot that even when not so-called). However, what I'd like would be cherry-picking which allegations are "true" and deleting the rest. If someone wanted to put all of these articles up for an AfD, I'd be willing to vote yes." 4094:(This analysis is based on extracts that I've made from available AFD discussions. I've parsed the data the best I could, but there may be residual errors. If so, these should be a result of technical problems, not any systematic bias. Anyone who wants to review the raw data is welcome to; feel free to email me). 738:"In my view, and that of many others, the only real solution for the "Allegations of Israeli apartheid" POV-monstrosity is outright deletion, salt the earth, etc. The article is an embarrassment to Knowledge (XXG), a political propaganda-fest that a good encyclopedia (like Britannica) would never put up with." 2804:; Urthrogie and Jayjg get no support, ChrisO gets support. Urhtrogie also declines to discuss the content changes with an uninvolved editor who describes Urthrogie as "removing sourced material and references from this article" while the moving is occurring. Urthrogie never discusses the content changes. 6878:
First, I'm not sure one is intended to comment in others' evidence sections, particularly when I have a finding of fact on this in the Workshop which is open to response. Otherwise, I fully encourage editors to read the diffs, as I believe they are the central issue here (please do explain "ven some
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IronDuke on Jayjg's deletion: "Delete The article is a POV fork, and the majority of !voters favor being rid of it in some fashion or other. I will also note that the loudest cries against Jay as a biased editor seem to be coming from editors with a pronounced (and in some cases acknowledged) bias of
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My first choice was to have all the articles deleted. I believed they all suffered from the same flaw, which basically boiled down to OR. If the community felt that the Allegations articles were somehow not OR, I would disagree, but would then advocate keeping all the ones that had decent sources and
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I'm not sure what's more flabbergasting: that I have been accused of incivility where a brief glance would reveal that not to be the case, or that it's been done by an editor I have never, to my knowledge, encountered before, who has never made any attempt to warn me of my allegedly uncivil behavior,
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this one or delete them all per Humus Sapians. These is an obvious POV fork. It is very POV to have articles accusing some countries of apartheid while not allowing a similar attacks against others. Allegations of apartheid is an attack against that country, and cannot be written in a neutral manner.
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Be aware that Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to re-factor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties please
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as delete. While he had not been involved in editing the article, his previous involvement in other "Allegations of apartheid" articles and the centralized apartheid discussion made it very unlikely that his closure would be perceived as neutral. While the basic rationale for the closure was soundly
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Beyond that, it's been my contention that all articles' existence should be based on the merit of each of them in terms of notability, NPOV, OR, etc. And since we, as a community, have put the title issue to rest, then articles also need time to evolve to a somewhat stable state. I think AoIa is the
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Tewfik on ChrisO's deletion: "Overturn - while I sympathise with some of the rationales for dealing with the Apartheid entries re: WTA, ChrisO should clearly not have taken administrative action in this case. Even if someone else had done it, there is still no way that 50% delete should be closed as
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Jayjg on Jayjg's deletion: "Regarding the various people who are hinting or stating outright that I have some sort of conflict of interest, or shouldn't be able to make administrative decisions on wide areas of article topics, or, most bizarrely, that I have in the past "illegally" deleted articles,
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MastCell also alleges that I have violated a previous arbcom ruling, though he provides no evidence that I have not negotiated in good faith. I can only say that I have done nothing but, and was willing to accept an outcome which I thought fairly odious, as a compromise position. MastCell also takes
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Now, looking at ChrisO's record in opining and writing about all AFDs since the one about alleged French apartheid, an uncharitable editor might assert that the "only reasonable explanation" for his views is that he was so offended by the allegations against France that he went on a vendetta against
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Humus Sapiens on ChrisO's deletion: "Overturn - I question the qualification of ChrisO (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves) to take an admin action because of his clearly one-sided activism on the page in question and in related discussions. Also, I don't see how the discussion
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6SJ7 on Jayjg's deletion: "I endorse Jayjg's action. I will resist the temptation to respond to claims of "bias", but I do not think it is helpful to throw those allegations around. I do think that Knowledge (XXG) is "broken" when it comes to articles about Israel and Israeli-Arab relations, and it
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because of my views. Apparently, he believes I am acting inappropriately for expressing my views in a clear content dispute, and apparently, he feels actions should be taken against me for having a different opinion than his over this content dispute. He further accuses our voting as being based on
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editors (other than the banned ones) who support AoIa are antisemites. It is perfectly possible to agree with me that AoIa smacks of antisemitism, but disagree with me and say WP needs an article on it anyway. My reasoning may be off (though I don't think it is), but to claim that a general comment
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This is a dispute between ChrisO and his opinionated and misinformed gaggle of know-it-all admins in opposition to a bunch of other admins, a number of whom happen to be Jews. This is something that becomes obvious when the relevant discussion is read in full. It is not without cause that there are
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Urthogie is the editor most heavily involved (in 7 of 10 of these articles), reflecting his role as the principal creator of the series. Jayjg has the largest number of edits, reflecting his leading role in developing these articles (though he only created one of them). Individual articles have had
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in your own section. Please limit your main evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100 diffs and keep responses as short as possible; a shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and on diffs which illustrate behavior which relates
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IronDuke on ChrisO's deletion: "Overturn I did not !vote in the original AfD, but this is waaaayyyy out of process, both in terms of numbers, opinions offered, and, most importantly, because it was done by an admin who is deeply involved--indeed, who is a POV warrior on these subjects. I know this
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First of all, I never accused him personally of being an israel hater; I used it more or less in a general context. But he assumes I have a list of Israel-hating editors, making another bad faith allegation, and basically calling me (or my beliefs) "shit"; also asserting that I apparently am a bad
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It seems to me that Sm8900 contacted me after recently encountering my effort to play a facilitating role in another Israeli-Palestinian topic. I see little basis on which Sm8900 would presuppose my support for his position in the Jenin dispute, given my sparse and rather neutral contributions on
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For example, it is a known fact that in the USA today, most fatalities in traffic accidents are wearing seat belts. You could argue then, that seat belts are unsafe. However, this will ignore the fact that in proportion and absolut numbers, much more people people wear seat belts than before laws
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Tewfik on Jayjg's deletion: "This is deletion review, whose sole aim is assessing whether the AfD warrants a deletion or undeletion. It isn't the place for reviewing anyone's actions, and much less for leveling accusations of 'censorship' or 'abuse of powers' (or even for being "completely out of
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Numerous times Cerejota has falsely accused me of may things including 3rr violations by miscounting, disruption by misinterpritations of my comments, etc. Participation in an afd for an article one thinks should be deleted is not disruption. Besides that, Cerejota has been uncivil. First, he/she
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article, Jayjg was "admonished not use administrative tools without prior discussion and consensus, and to avoid using them so as to continue an editing dispute" and "reminded to use mediation and other dispute resolution procedures sooner when conflicts occur". (It may be worth noting that the
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Some editors tried to move the article without any consensus, the article got protected. From that time, every proposal I would do got "all or nothing" answers ("if you act on the French article, you should act the same on the other articles; If you don't want to act on others, then I will oppose
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upheld at deletion review, several editors (including myself) expressed the opinion that ChrisO was not suitably uninvolved to close this debate. ChrisO should reasonably have known that his close would be seen as inappropriate by a significant number of the AfD participants, resulting in drama.
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The editor who has voted most often here is G-Dett's. She has voted on every single issue except allegations of American apartheid and rejected efforts to create articles about allegations of apartheid in a number of non-Israeli countries, while voting to keep articles about alleged apartheid in
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Tarc on ChrisO's deletion: Endorse Closure - Unless someone can point out where the policy is that precludes an admin who is involved in a topic from taking administrative actions in said topic, this sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from those that support the article. Tarc 13:10, 31 July 2007
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Like it or not, most if not all articles about Israel specifically and the Arab-Israeli conflict generally attracts some level of edit controversy. As much as we don't want, and shouldn't encourage, these articles to be battlegrounds for the real-life conflicts, we also rely on the dialectic to
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Much has been written about the meaning of the titles, and indeed the title "Allegations of Israeli apartheid" is a result of much contention and many changes. The article started its life as Israeli apartheid and many have continued to argue for this title, because to them it is a fact beyond
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Your help is vitally needed. Please go to this proceeding and insert your comments indicating support for those who seek to preserve balance at Knowledge (XXG) by applying this method of inquiry equally, by applying the "aparetheid" analigy to a variety of countries equally, instead of only to
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I feel that a reply ought to be unnecessary, since one only has to click on the diffs provided by Picaroon to see that they do not match his interpretation of them. Also, this was not a proceeding I wished to be a party to, and would have happily ignored it but as it appears there's no opt-out
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Your help is vitally needed. Please go to this proceeding and insert your comments indicating support for those who seek to preserve balance at Knowledge (XXG) by applying this method of inquiry equally, by applying the "aparetheid" analigy to a variety of countries equally, instead of only to
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Yet he also says that instead of asking these disruptive AfDs be speedy closed, as any good-faith editor would do when faced with disruption, he expresses he will participate in them, even if they are disruptive. This is further evidence in support of him being a specially disturbing case of
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Urthogie is the second busiest voter, but it appears he never weighed in with a vote on Allegations of Israeli apartheid, and he abstained from voting on Saudi Arabia and the US. CJCurrie voted several times to keep Allegations of Israeli apartheid but wanted to delete allegations of French,
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ChrisO is sanctioned for his actions, Jayjg's should come under the same scrutiny. FWIW, my personal opinion is that both actions were inappropriate and that the simplest way for Arbcom to take some heat out of the overall dispute would be to forbid future use of admin tools by all involved
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Now that ChrisO dismisses AFD "vote" patterns as evidence for his accusations against me and others, he says that the deciding factor should be the motivations for the votes and other participation. This is presumably why he has included selected quotes, in the evidence he presents above.
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In response the editors of the Israel-apartheid article are now accusing the editors who worked on articles about all the other countries of POV, when it is the editors of the Israel article who are most guilty of a warped unfair POV focus on one country to the exclusion of others.
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
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Your heading is completely misleading: all it proves is that these things happened in quick succession. However, statistics, when measuring behaviors and their consequences, have to be more rigorous than this: I can prove to you pretty much anything if underlying assumptions are
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My reading of this situation was somewhat different. I don't recall that you made point (1) clear at any point in our discussion. (And, for the record, I was unaware of Kiyosaki's prejudical views when I accepted his barnstar. Once he made his views known, I removed it.)
753:"Article lists notable accusations regarding a significant phenomenon in Brazil, and the Allegations of apartheid article is currently deleted. More material undoubtedly exists, and could be added to flesh out the stub, but we don't delete stubs simply because they are stubs" 1462:"On a personal note, I wish people here would stop misusing the term "apartheid" for POV reasons - it cheapens and degrades the memory of that inquitous system." (which sounds to me like a call for using "apartheid" only in reference to the specific system in South Africa. 6610:, "Editors of articles concerning apartheid are directed to negotiate in good faith appropriate article names using relevant policies and guidelines. If negotiation is unsuccessful, interested parties are required to enter into good faith mediation regarding the matter." 3647:
where ChrisO was criticized. As Mantanmoreland put it, "Given that these "apartheid" articles are involved in interrelated debates, it was very wrong of ChrisO, an active participant, to close this deletion debate. This was an abuse of tools and should not be permitted."
6776:: the resulting disruption is obvious in the contentious deletion discussions, the fact that editors of French and Chinese articles have been drawn into this steel cage match, the attacks on neutral admins in deletion discussions, and the fact that we're here at ArbCom. 3865:
Currently, the ArbCom case has degenenerated to accusation and counter-accusation. This was inevitable, sicne ArbCom refuses to address cointent dispute, and only addresses user conduct, forcing even well-meaning, goodfaith editors to level accusations at each other.
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Update: In response to Mackensen's question on the Workshop page, I could find any editor who clearly applied a double standard in the opposite direction. The closest I could find was Tarc, however it is not clear what aspect of Jayjg's actions he was referring to:
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All I can say, Mackan79,is that you might want to hope that most people (unlike me) don't actually click on the references you provide, as they bear only passing resemblance to the charges. And to those who read this, I would encourage you to please do click them.
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As it turns out, the editors who are accused of single-minded pro-Israeli activism have shown remarkable restraint in their participation in AFDs, while relative newcomers to the debate who are doing the accusing are those who have the highest editing intensity:
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At this moment, a massive conflict is breaking out at the following page, in an arbitration proceeding, at Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Allegations of apartheid/Workshop, a subpage of Knowledge (XXG):Requests_for_arbitration/Allegations_of_apartheid.
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The accused editors have all offered different but sometimes related rationale for their views. But what we've all insisted (as far as I can tell) is that if the title is not inherently biased for one country, then it can not be inherently biased for another.
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I should also point out that his tone is in general often combative and sneering on these issues, and there are many, many more instances of unpleasant comments (both general and specific) directed at those who disagree with him, which I can list upon request.
950:"Allegations of Israel human rights violations do merit articles (though one can always wonder the paucity of such articles about other states and regimes who do much worse), but the term "apartheid" is a rhetorical device that distracts from the real issue." 7169:
Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
3982:) was on August 4, 2007, as this arbitration was getting underway. That editor has not participated in the arbitration. There is no indication on the user's user or talk pages of why they are absent. This is highly unusual for that very active editor. -- 2287: 1092: 315: 4086:
I present evidence for this with some misgivings, as I think the evidence will always be circumstantial. But since others have opened the door to this kind of reasoning, there is a much stronger case that one group has voted as a block in order to protect
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By the time the first article was written about allegations against another country than Israel was written, the AFDs about AoIA had run their course. AoIa 3 had closed in August of 2006, and a fourth attempt in April of 2007 gathered much less interest.
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numerous charges of thinly-veiled antisemitism that have been made in the various relevant discussions, not only against ChrisO, but against a significant number of other editors, including a merry gang of uncharacteristically deletionist admins.
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I note the obvious bias that many (though certainly not all) of them have expressed in these areas themselves, and point out that an interest in a topical area is not a conflict of interest in that area. Jayjg (talk) 21:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)"
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The first of Picaroon's diffs refers to a point I have made many times, which is that AoIa is similar to "filthy Jew" in that is an epithet meant to smear a specific ethnicity. Nowhere do I suggest or imply, as Picaroon erroneously claims, that
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It seeks to poison the well by asserting at the outset that all subsequent editors are "Israel-focused" editors. If ChrisO thinks this is a relevant fact, he should be prepared to document and prove it. If he can't prove it, he should omit the
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I agree. I am not trying to prove any causality at all; I'm merely pointing out that voting, or rather "opining" patterns on this issue prove nothing at all, yet this is what ChrisO is submitting as evidence in his very selective table above.
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I would contend that it is difficult to apportion blame for the ruckus about these series of articles. My view is that it is far more questionable to want articles deleted because you are suspicious of the motives of the editors for creating
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Ideogram offered an apology for his abusive language, which I accepted in good faith. But this behavior only shows what a problem these type of "allegation of XXX" articles are and how heated discussions can get. 16:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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a consensus for deletion. While I respect ChrisO, I would have hoped that he would be more careful with his tools after the last two occurrences of using them in similar, questionable circumstances. TewfikTalk 22:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)"
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cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the Arbitrators to move.
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There is no evidence that the acts of a few editors have disrupted Knowledge (XXG). This debate has surely disrupted Knowledge (XXG) (and the lives of those involved), but it would be unreasonable and practically impossible to allocate
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who are being accused of all-or-nothing. And yet, there is not a single proposal in any of the articles that looks like a quid pro quo. The closest we get is a hope that the centralized discussion will resolve the broader issue.
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for its sixth and most recent AfD and has participated in the AfDs on the French and Jordanian apartheid articles, voting to keep both. In discussing why the other "allegations of apartheid" articles had been created, he stated:
6271:'s curious pride in deleting things, but anyone who takes a look at his user page will see that it's an accurate assessment. I stand by my assertion that it was decided incorrectly, and I provided a complete analysis of it here: 1395: 1289: 985: 894: 773: 557: 451: 360: 6772:, has developed a series of other "Allegations of apartheid" articles and defended them with the express purpose of using them as a "bargaining chip" to compel deletion of the Israeli article. This is a canonical violation of 69:
As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff, or to a short page section; links to the page itself are not sufficient. Never link to a
6719:"There is a systemic issue here; there are a series of "Allegations of apartheid in country X" articles... The oldest, and by far the largest, is Allegations of Israeli apartheid. It would make sense to crack that nut first. 1319: 1061: 803: 682: 587: 390: 6239:
The closest we get to an admission is that some editors believe that WP's NPOV is strengthened if allegations of apartheid aren't limited to Israel. This is of course a valid point and I dare say a main driver for many new
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It is indeed a novel idea that the act of creating well-sourced articled about a specific phenomenon (that countries are accused in the media and by pundits of allegations of certain crimes) should be considered an act of
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Tarc on Jajyg's deletion: Endorse Keep, as it was a notable subject matter with sources to verify it. I also sincerely hope that there is an investigation into Jayjg's actions regarding this AfD. Tarc 13:37, 26 April 2007
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I cannot understand how anyone can apply the same code of conduct to both administrators and arrive at this set of conclusions. That this has happened is an indication of the unhealthy level of partisanship that we have.
1997:, without going through AfD and while he was actively involved in the dispute about apartheid articles. With that deletion he also deleted the article history. He later restored the article on August 12 after a short DRV. 6190:"The status of articles on other similar topics has no bearing on a particular article. The process may have been applied inappropriately, people may not have seen the other articles yet, or consensus may have changed." 97: 2949:
MastCell has distorted my involvement in these articles, and my reasoning. I didn’t think, when I was !voting, that my stance was so subtle that I needed to re-explain it, though I now see it is clear that I should.
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only article that has sufficient content that it can be evaluated fully, and I also think it's trash; the others were so quickly bogged down with AFDs and other noise that the editors have made limited progress.
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3) A number of Israel-focused editors have been involved in many of the AfDs on "allegations of apartheid" articles. Notably, they have systematically voted to keep them while voting to delete the older article
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This, of course, applies to the statistics provided by ChrisO. However, these statistics are accompanied by open admissions of the intent or intentional support for actions. That is much more solid evidence.--
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It should also be noted that those screaming the loudest for ChrisO to be desysopped for using his tools in an area where his neutrality is suspect are, coincidentally, largely the same editors who sprang to
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If you wish, you may also demand that ArbCom or some other body address content disputes, so that this cycle of accusation and counter-accusation will not remaion the only real means of addressing disputes.
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If you wish, you may also demand that ArbCom or some other body address content disputes, so that this cycle of accusation and counter-accusation will not remaion the only real means of addressing disputes.
296:(AoIa). They have often based their opposition to AoIa on general principles which they have then set aside for the other articles. The rationales have invariably been non-policy-based, usually citing the " 2855:. I suggested that while it was possible that some supporters of the article had an axe to grind with regards to Israel, that did not nullify their concerns. There isn't even a whisper of incivility there. 2350:
says "You clearly don't understand why we created other apartheid articles. All allegations of apartheid articles are meant to antagonize people of that culture; the Israel one included. They are all POV
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At least 353 distinct editors have voted or commented on the apartheid articles. I count in excess of 1280 different edits in these pages.The 20 most active editors are responsible for 39% of the edits.
2286:(the 3rd AFD on the article; first at the new title), was closed early in part due to a finding of an out of process nomination. Similar accusations were made in the 3rd AFD about the second and in the 1827: 3815:, whose evident focus is Latin American topics, has expressed the opinion that tactics used by Middle East-focused editors has been disruptive to the development of quality articles about Latin America. 7084: 2068:", arguing "that is all the term really means in this context". His proposed course of action was not taken, although the "Apartheid outside of South Africa" article was subsequently redirected to 21: 2413: 662:"As I have !voted before, keep all or delete all articles on this subject. This article has plenty of sources and, per Gzuckier, we could meet some objections by renaming it to Chinese Apartheid." 3689:
Humus Sapiens on Jayjg's deletion: "Changing my vote to Delete. Since WP is turning into a battleground, I'd rather be counted as a "usual suspect". ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)"
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Actually, the table shows that following the speedy keep in AfD 6 of AoIA, a string of articles and accompanying deletions happened within less than two months. They are all bunched up visually.
2765:(#1) to the last version by himself. (Question: how can something be "without consensus" in a problematic way prior to the creation of a talk page? BRD anyone? This undid two user's changes.] 385:"in order to maintain consistency with other articles, pending a "global" resolution of the issue of "apartheid" articles, as discussed in the Arbitration Committee decision almost a year ago." 3637:
where Jayjg was criticized by some for what was, as Cyde put it, "taking controversial actions in a subject matter he knows he doesn't have even the remote appearance of being unbiased in."
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forcing their use appeared. And it also ignores the fact that in proportion, fatalities in traffic accidents have dropped dramatically from the time before laws forcing their use appeared.
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I will stipulate that I erred in thinking the AFD was closed early. I have made apologies to the closing admin(s) and hope that the DRV can be reopened when this issue has been resolved.
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allegations. Mainly against the people who wanted the Israel apartheid article deleted, specifically bolding the participation of us, and claiming attempts to improve the articles are
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Ideogram has engaged in a long term pattern of disruption involving multiple, abusive sockpuppets. He has admitted operating a number of socks, and several more are suspected.
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Those bringing the accusations here wish to somehow punish editors who have created fully sourced articles with similar titles to an article they previously had wanted deleted.
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Keep - there is a precedent for keeping "allegations of apartheid" articles. If someone created an AFD for all of these articles, that would have a strong chance of succeeding.
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Note: 02:36, 19 April 2007 Blnguyen (Talk | contribs) blocked "Ideogram (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 48 hours (disrupting arbcom)
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should also be read in its entirety, as it specifically places this dispute in the context of "the zionists and supporters of Israel" battling "the anti-zionists". --
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Those who wanted AoIa deleted but subsequent "allegations of" articles kept, are on solid ground in accepting the decision from one case and applying it to the other
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Conversely, those who wanted AoIa kept but subsequent "allegations of" articles deleted, must morally and intellectually answer what separates one case from another
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1) The development of the "allegations" articles has been dominated by a small number of editors, a significant number of whom are actively involved in editing
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After having worked constructively on various aoia articles, ChrisO's tone abruptly changed when an article was created about allegations of French apartheid
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And later he/she indirectly called me an enemy editor, saying I shouldn't edit wikipedia, and that none of my contributions to wikipedia have been helpful.
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The examples raised in the section oppose the view that articles that bear a resemblance to other deleted articles should be deleted. In this case, it is
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isn't necessarily the place for it, but a desysopping and/or topic ban for ChrisO is well past due. Enough is enough. IronDuke 16:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)"
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of the worst of the POV-pushers who defended the inflammatory titles and articles in the past seem to be coming around to a more reasonable approach...."
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In response, a group of more even-handed editors attempted to build a set of article detailing and highlighting alleged "apartheid" in other countries.
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He later "explains" he isn't doing it because it would be "disruption". So he is clearly acknowledging that he knows that multiple AfDs are disruptive.
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admin who closed the AfD in a manner not to their liking. This does not absolve ChrisO of closing the AfD improperly, but does provide useful context.
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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.
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Substantive editing issues included edits obscuring original synthesis by combining entirely unrelated claims as if they are responding to each other
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6SJ7 on ChrisO's deletion: "This was a clear abuse of administrative powers. Overturning the deletion should be only the first of the repercussions."
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I think honest people can have disagreements on these issues, but there is nothing that I wrote that would constitute an assumption of bad faith. --
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But it is those who insist on consistency who are being accused of acting in bad faith, and of conspiracies, and of applying double standards. --
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There has never been any offer of a quid pro quo along the lines of "if you agree to delete article A, I'll agree to delete articles B, C, and D"
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article without including criticisms of the allegations. Never has this article given a single sentence to the point of view that Australia does
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has been admonished by the Arbitration Committee on three occasions for his behaviour on articles relating to the Israel/Palestinian conflict.
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I actually pride myself on remaining civil to editors with whom I disagree on this issue. I'd point, as evidence of this, to the remarks of
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On March 29, around the same time that Urthogie expressed the above opinion about how NPOV should be interpreted for AoIA, he created the
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The previous analysis was incomplete and selective. Among the most active voters (and I included myself for purposes of full disclosure)
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of 7 January 2005. The current wording, minus the initial "Also, " was there when "not a theatre of war" became "not a battleground" on
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such topics. For these reasons, I would advise against interpreting Sm8900's contact of me, if not others, as an instance of canvassing.
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As a matter of fact, it wasn't until the AFD on China was created that the interest even approached the first AFD on an article titled
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The third diff is also, if I say so myself, entirely polite. I did point out that CJCurrie had supported an antisemitic sock puppeteer
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an involved admin who had closed the Chinese AFD despite being involved in the topic to reverse themselves so an uninvolved admin could
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says "Those articles are only necessary because of the existence of this one . It was important to maintain some semblance of balance."
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The third diff is also, if I say so myself, entirely polite. I did point out that CJCurrie had supported an antisemitic sock puppeteer
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article. I also believe Jayjg's repeated "keep" votes on other "Allegations ..." articles can only be interpreted in the same light.
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The closest thing we can do to make it neutral is allow the allegations against every country. This is the only way to balance it out."
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by Y. Elapsed time, 4 hours on 30 July, commencing roughly 1 hour before the N. Ireland move war and ending roughly 0.5 hours later.
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Mitigating in ChrisO's favor, he requested an outside admin to close the next Allegations AfD. A truly neutral and uninvolved admin,
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I presume I've been included in Sefringle's shitlist of "Israel-hating editors". My Jewish ancestors must be turning in their graves.
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Second, he/she has called me a troll in the afd discussion for expressing the opinion that the afd will unlikely be speedily closed
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Insisting on consistency across articles is not unreasonable. This is why we have policies and guidelines: to ensure consistency
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Multiple editors have explicitly used the Allegations series as a "bargaining chip" to push for deletion of the Israeli article
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the spelling mistake and fixes the typo in the redirect at Segregation, which also locks against a further move to Segregation.
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in French politics or the media who uses the comparison." (in stark contradiction to his opposition to OR and other POV views).
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If anything those who want to keep allegations of Israeli apartheid are more principled in wanting to delete everything else.
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by merged in highly pruned form with a list page. I believe the only reasonable explanation is that Jayjg was engaged in a
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close noted "a bipartisan consensus that the AfD closer was not the best-positioned person to have taken this decision."
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If Knowledge (XXG) chose to discipline editors based on supposed state of mind, we would be entering dangerous territory
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The evidence presented here and by others clearly shows that a group of editors, unhappy with the outcome of AfD's on
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Tactics used in the dispute have been disruptive to editors and articles which have nothing to do with the Middle East
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Furthermore, the prior Israeli Apartheid Arbitration case explicitly enjoined editors to negotiate their differences
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Several editors defended Jayjg's decision to use his tools while criticizing ChrisO's decision as inappropriate:
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Threaded dialog removed, response may be made in your own evidence section, the talk page, or the workshop page.
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be renamed "Social apartheid in Brazil". This after I made an effort to involve editors from Wikiproject Brazil.
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Ideogram has been banned from editing Knowledge (XXG) for a period of no less than one year by the community.
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Sefringle once again, promises to disrupt Knowledge (XXG) to make a point via misuse of the deletion process
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while involved in a move/edit war with Urthogie on that article. He unprotects "for now" when challenged.
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comments in relation to the allegations of apartheid articles and the users involved with them. Examples:
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Please notice that this vote on the French article is copied from the one on the Saudi Arabian article :
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ChrisO learned from the American Apartheid Allegations DRV to not close AFDs for articles in this series
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He has today barged into another person's Talk and quite deliberately, high-handedly and unnecessarily
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to both his tabulated results and to his conclusions. He admits (comments on another part of this page
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I present evidence that Ideogram is a long term disruptive editor. This evidence was compiled for a
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suggesting antisemitism (via "filthy Jew" reference) on the part of people he is in disagreement with
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Since the aforementioned subsection has been withdrawn, the previous paragraph is now moot. Thanks.
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Cerejota. He writes that "there likely will be an 8th ". He doesn't say he will start this. Cheers.
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incomprehensible, trollish, and clutter, and also implies that greg has nothing useful to contribute
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests_for_arbitration/Certified.Gangsta-Ideogram#Ideogram_placed_on_revert_parole
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and the vote at the AFD page warrant the deletion. ←Humus sapiens ну? 23:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)"
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Accusations have floated around the apartheid articles and their deletion discussions for a while
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Jayjg on ChrisO's deletion: "This was a terrible abuse of process on a couple of levels. First,
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on 29 August that "I promise to concede, only on one condition: if you apply your own logic to
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There are intellectually honest answers to this question, and these have been debated endlessly
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practice apartheid. Urthogie removed a POV tag which had been placed on it by another editor:
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for an admin not involved in the relevant wiki-projects to close the Chinese allegations AFD.
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A group of editors has been developing an article entitled Alegations of Israeli apartheid."
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Specific actions then include repeatedly trying to enlist outside editors for deleting AoIa,
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is not going to be fixed on an article-by-article basis. 6SJ7 23:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)"
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6882:) If you can dispute any of the points, I would encourage you to do so on the workshop. 4040:
The expressed reasons by those accused are construed in ways that inherently violate AGF
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to the issues. If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence
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demanding "systemic" solutions from editors not familiar with Israel/Palestine articles
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and me as an "almost-meatpuppets guided by concerns that have nothing to do with Brazil"
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At no point has any editor expressed any wish to make a point by creating these articles
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In other words, every single editor and every single article has different patterns.
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Contributors apply a double standard regarding AfD closures by involved administrators
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changed the title of this section to "Allegations of Apartheid in other nations". On
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The previous Apartheid Arbitration case mandated that editors negotiate in good faith
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Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review/Allegations of Chinese apartheid/Analysis by Leifern
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In the relevant section on arguments, we can find this illuminating introduction:
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Urthogie has created at least one article which violates his own interpretation of
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ChrisO has been interested most recently in taunting 6SJ7, who he characterizes as
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Ideogram assumed bad faith throughout my research and editing of that article. See
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and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading.
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It is difficult for me to reconcile these actions with Jayjg's prior request that
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Pro-Israel editors have said that the other articles were created because of AoIa
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American, and Chinese apartheid and proposed to merge Saudi Arabian apartheid.
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before using the last evidence template, please make a copy for the next person
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requires due weight to be given to criticisms of Israeli apartheid allegations.
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Contrary to MastCell’s assertion, I have used no “bargaining chips” of any kind
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who closed the Chinese apartheid DRV. He had this to say regarding my conduct.
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while being actively engaged in other "Allegations of XXX apartheid" articles.
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as well as the previous Arbitration ruling that they negotatiate in good faith
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to a misspelling with a summary of "Please stop moves without consensus", and
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Allegations of tourist apartheid in Cuba
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Allegations of Saudi Apartheid was at first part of Allegations of apartheid
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who may have participated in some of the AfDs mentioned above. Isarig, and
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Leifern did not violate AGF in the DRV for Allegations of Chinese Apartheid
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No evidence that new "allegations of X apartheid were made to make a point
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After being reminded of his 1RR parole, Ideogram desisted from reverting.
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reverted by deletion of lead by Ideogram on Aug 5, 9:22 with edit summary
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I don't remember having any particular dispute with this editor before. —
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their own. "Usual suspects" indeed. IronDuke 01:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)"
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When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the Arbitrators and
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mentorship for a period of 6 months counting from August 29, 2007. --
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The move/revert war stops at this point. Discussion occurs on the
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compared to his vote now on Allegations of French Apartheid.
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Correlation does not equal causation. Never forget that.
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This page is not for general discussion - for that, see
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration
Allegations of apartheid
page history
contributions
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talk page
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Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Allegations of American apartheid
Allegations of Australian apartheid
Allegations of Brazilian apartheid
Allegations of Chinese apartheid
Allegations of French apartheid
Allegations of Islamic apartheid
Allegations of Jordanian apartheid
Allegations of Northern Irish apartheid
Allegations of Puerto Rican apartheid
Allegations of Saudi Arabian apartheid
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Allegations of Israeli apartheid

Allegations of French apartheid

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07:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Allegations of Israeli apartheid
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