Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Billy Ego-Sandstein/Workshop

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block does not understand 3RR, because he counted things as reversions such things as changing the term "capitalist" to "owner of capital" or something similar. This is not a reversion but merely a rewording, which I did to assist readers in understanding what sense the term "capitalist" was being used. But, of course the vague claim of "edit warring" was used to justify the block, when violation of 3RR could not be shown. I still do not see how discussing edits in talk, adding sources to articles, rewording things, etc, is "edit warring." I think when someone is blocked, fellow adminstrators tend to think "He must have done SOMETHING wrong to be blocked" and will defend those on the side of "the system." So there you have one violation of 3RR, one block that was unjustified (or if you want to take Sandstein's word for it "barely" justified), and block based on a mistaken understanding of what a reversion is (later justified with the vague "edit warring"). Certainly nothing serious at all. Regardless, these events are long gone, and I have only been engaged in occassional editing since, and don't plan to engage in any heavy editing since the difficult task of getting important information into the articles I was working on against resistance from a few individuals (and along with the welcomed assistance of other individuals who helped to keep information in that I added), complete with thorough sourcing, has been accomplished. I don't know the point is of bringing these past events up unless the administrator who did bring it up wishes to see me punished all over again for the above. To punish someone for the same crime twice is injust. I expect that any reputable admnistrator would recognize this basic principle of justice. But, possibly, this is simply an attempt to discredit the accuser in this case. I'm trust that the arbitrators can filter through such irrelevant information. I initiated this arbitration, and it is a case against Sandstein, not me.

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on my user page is that my fascism is about economics, and I wanted it to be clear that I was opposed to anti-semitism. I thought the quotes alone might pacify him, but that's when he came and blocked me for "one week" without even saying beforehand that he disapproved of the quotes. If he would have simply said "remove the quotes" or I'll block you, I would have removed the quotes, then requested an arbitration. How was I supposed to know he wasn't going to allow the quotes either? This is the problem with a single administrator having arbitrary power. In order for the system to be just and fair, there has to be some kind of process to go through, a diffusion of authority, to take the actions he has. And most importanly, there has to be some way for the user to argue his case against what he believes to be improper adminstrator actions. It's unfortunate that some adminsitrators here do not even respect my right the argue my case and are upset that I am doing so. In fact, if I never requested this arbitration there would not have been proposals to for me to be "banned for one year." I'm convinced that I'm being punished for pursuing this arbitration case. What is happening is attrocious.

4026:

behind jury trials, which are the common people deciding the cases. Right now, the people are oppressed by power-drunken elites who exercise arbitrary and limitless power over them. If an arbitration case is pursued with the argument that administrators/arbitrators are exercising too much power, administrators/abitrators themselves are those who casts the votes on the matter. The system protects and expands the power of the elites, because ordinary Wikipedians have not risen up to balance that power by changing the policy. I suggest that all adminsitrators/arbitrators be forbidden from voting on all issues in Knowledge (XXG). There needs to be a check on their power by allowing Knowledge (XXG) community as a whole (minus administrators or a small clique of arbitrators) to vote in arbitration cases.

2199:"Don't be a dick" is the fundamental rule of all social spaces. Every other policy for getting along is a special case of it. Although nobody is empowered to ban or block somebody for being a dick (as this would be an instance of being a dick), it is still a bad idea to be one. So don't do it. No definition of being a dick has been provided. This is deliberate. If a significant number of reasonable people suggest, whether bluntly or politely, that you are being a dick, the odds are good that you are not entirely in the right. Being right about an issue does not mean you're not being a dick yourself! Dicks can be right — but they're still dicks; if there's something in what they say that is worth hearing, it goes unheard, because no one likes listening to dicks. It doesn't matter how right they are. 3669:

a reversion or two. However, reversions are permissible, permissible, and useful function on Knowledge (XXG). And, there is nothing wrong with making many edits in short time frame. The administrator also seems to neglect to see that I was engaging in extensive discussion in the talk pages and that I was adding new material and new sources. I requested an unblock, but was denied to be unblocked by none other than Sandstein (I believe this was my first contact with Sandstein). The block was clearly unjustified. Sandstein said in his explanation for refusing to lift the block "While I agree that this is not one of the more egregious cases of edit warring I've seen, the block is (although barely) justified in view of your generally overaggressive editing of Fascism and related articles."

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Sandstein. It takes a somewhat sophisticated mentality and maturity, on the part of an administrator, to elevate oneself above this propensity. I am not saying that any of them are acting in bad faith, but that this defense mechanism is a natural tendency and, I'm sure, an unconscious one. I trust that arbitrators of this honorable court will be conscious of this simple fact. It is not unexpected that the arbitrators are already familiar with this phenomenon given their experience in judging cases, so this most probably need not even be mentioned. But, arbitrators, please excuse my indiscretion in casting the slightest doubt on your judgement abilities, for my existence on Knowledge (XXG) depends on those abilities.

2075:

matter and not giving the user an opportunity to argue his case in a judicial forum of any sort is not "frivolous or pointless." Such blocks require proper and formal procedure to be follows. Sandstein does not have absolute power on Knowledge (XXG). If I make a change to my user page today or some time in the future, and Sandstein doesn't like it, he feels he has the right to peremptorily place a block one me not only for "one week" (which he did), but for an "indefinite duration," which he has threatened. No Knowledge (XXG) user should have to work under such a threat of arbitrary power. There is nothing frivolous at all about this case. My very existence on Knowledge (XXG) depends on it.

5696:

Anyways, YOU did not delete any material from your userpage. As a quick glance at the first page of history of your userpage shows (mostly between 03/19 and 03/22), it was deleted by other parties, you then restored it... once it was deleted again, you put a link to the section that was deleted... once that was deleted too, you tried to go around by introducing new text with quotes that were as unappropriate as what was there before. That was removed too by Sandstein. You did not delete anything yourself.... unless not putting back material you were told a few times not to re-add count as "I deleted it" in your world.

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earlier when he and another user were getting into arguments on WP:AN/I and WP:RFCU. I watched the discussions on Billy's talk page after the block, and felt I had a fairly good idea of the current situation. The discussions between Billy and a 3rd party reached a point where Billy promised to stop reinserting the paragraph and to take the whole situation to dispute resolution. Given this promise, an AGF assumption that the promise was good, and the "preventative not puntative" nature of blocks, I felt that the promise meant there was no longer any reason for him to remain blocked.

4457:

disagreeing that there is consensus is something that is punishable? Given his irrational statements on other areas of this page, this probably exactly what he means. This is symptomatic of the syndrome that afflicts some administrators. They believe that people should be punished for simply disagreeing. They see it as an assault against their status as policemen. I am being attacked by adminstrators on this page for the simple fact that I am arguing that there are limits to their authority.

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be "banned for a year." There were no requests for any blocks whatsoever. However, all of a sudden, when he started pursuing this arbitration, most adminstrators and arbitrators have obviously now come out for blood. It is apparent that this is revenge being taken against him for daring to challenge the authority of an adminisitrator, because there is nothing else he could have done that could possibly warrant such a reprisal.

4660:

Those with a modicum of power will often go to any length to persecute someone who dares to challenge their authority. To draw a parallel I made earilier, we see this behavior in police officers. Fortunately, they aren't the final authority on Knowledge (XXG). There is a process that they must answer to. It's just unfortunately that not all of them respect the right of an individual to take this remedial action.

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large." Where is the opinion of uninvolved parties who exist subject to the whims of power-drunken administrators? Where is the evidence that blocking me for one week, not for having a POV blurb on my user page, but for having quotes on my user page is supported by the community at large (or even a consensus of administrators)? Also, note that a consensus should be sought BEFOREHAND, in this type of situation.

5668:

to acknowledge there was an issue and kept going against the advice of administrators and more experienced users. Blocking you was the right thing to do. Upholding the block was the right decision. Banning you for a year will be the right decision too. You are not here to participate constructively and collaboratively to the encyclopedia. You are here to disrupt and push your agenda.

5646:

if such a block were placed, and an unblock request were placed, that all it would take is one careless administrator to refuse to unblock and I would be blocked forever? There is something very wrong with the the approval process for administrators here if someone can become an administrator and then say with a straight face that these things are "minor details."

1265:

and stable person. I submit that no reasonable person would be substationally "inflamed" by someone revealing that they are a fascist, especially when it is explained by that user on his user page that he is not, and why he is not, an anti-Semite (that explanation is one of the things that Sandstein has been deleting and blocking me for restoring).

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determine whether the material violates a Knowledge (XXG) policy. Just as you have a right to delete the material, the user has a right to revert back the material. What you do not have a right to do, in this case, is to block a user to prevent him from editing his user page (much less to block him from editing all Knowledge (XXG) articles).

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permissible. I was blocked for "one week" merely for having "quotes" on my user page. If a judgement is made on the permissibility of quotes, I will of course respect that. I believe in the judicial system. What I do not believe in is absolutle power for a single adminstrator to be judge, jury, and executioner in a case like this.

1365:– would be inflammatory. This is, at any rate, unrelated to the present case, since I have never stated that my administrative actions in this case were caused by disapproval of what Billy Ego says is his political stance. I did what I did because he misused his user page as a free web host for non-encyclopedia-related content. 5620:

Sandstein erred, in relation to when he gathered "consensus" (disputed, but that isn't the issue in this discussion section). Is there any rule on Knowledge (XXG) about this? Any generally-followed precedent? Any Arbitration precedent? What is the reason why consensus after the action is any different from before it?

2228:. Honestly, I'm not saying he's not. I'm saying that this proposal was pointlessly uncivil. Yes, he's being gratuitously offensive (partially explainable, though not justified, by the fact that he clearly sees arbitration as an adversarial process), but that doesn't mean you should fight fire with fire. -- 5667:

Knowledge (XXG) is not a court of law. It is an encyclopedia whose assume good faith policy practically applies the principles of innocent until proven guilty. You were given the chance to keep your userpage within norms but you kept re-adding stuff being deleted according to policies. You refused

5619:

The major issue, it seems, with this dispute is whether Sandstein needed consensus before or after the blocking/protecting took place. To me, it seems like a minor and irrelevant detail, but to Billy it isn't, apparently. I'd therefore like Billy to rationally explain the logic behind why he believes

4953:

What categories are we talking about here? While he was wrong in the way he went about it, his argument about "Fascist Wikipedians" being equivalent to other political categories (and thus ought to be kept if they are) proved to have the consensus of the community when separated from people voting to

4328:

2) Block administrator Sandstein's from editing Knowledge (XXG) for one month and suspend his administrator privileges for two months. This should give him time to research the limitations of his power on Knowledge (XXG) and to think about some very fundamental principles of justice that, at present,

3736:

This is a fallacious statement. You're attempting to propose something as a finding of fact that is inherently unknowable until after this arbitration process concludes. If ArbCom were to find that Billy Ego was correct and Sandstein's actions were inappropriate, it would directly contradict the last

3668:

I've been blocked once for violating 3RR. It was true that I violated 3RR and I accepted the 8 hour punishment. I was later blocked for "edit warring." This was an improper block. The administrator seems to have based his judgement simply on the fact that I was engaged in making many edits along with

3337:

6) Billy Ego was blocked for "one week," after he had already deleted the small blurb explaining his POV, as well as after he had deleted the "diff" showing that the blurb was deleted. Sandstein put the "one week" block on Billy Ego for having the quotes about economics of Mussolini and Hitler on his

3226:

Note that I was blocked for "one week," after I had already deleted the small blurb explaining my POV, as well as after I had deleted the "diff" showing that the essay was deleted. Sandstein put the "one week" block on me simply for having the quotes about economics of Mussolini and Hitler on my user

3139:

The block was posted to the administrators' noticeboard for peer-review. That is the normal forum and process for such a review. I note that you have also been blocked three times for edit warring in mainspace. It would be good to have some indication that at some point you are going to learn that

3105:

he takes these kinds of actions. Regardless, there was an administrator there that disagreed with Sandstein's actions as well as another one on my personal talk page. There were also a few non-administrators on my talk page that expressed discontent with Sandstein's actions. There was not a consensus

2925:

The administrator Sandstein does appear to understand figurative language. (If he wants to get really literal, the "locus" of the dispute is right here on this page, and changes location depending on where and when we are arguing). The reason I requested this arbitration was so that arbitrators could

2595:

15:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC) In my opinion, Hitler was right on about economic matters, however he turned out to be an evil man becuase of his attacks on the Jews. Mussolini is considered to be the epitome of fascism, but he didn't commit mass murders against Jews. If you examine fascism, its essence is

2347:

14) Just as, we all know, police tend to be very protective of their own, Knowledge (XXG) administrators also follow suit. What I am doing, in this case, is arguing that there is a limitation on their authority, so it is quite expected that several administrators will be here defending the actions of

1311:

Consider: "This user is in broad agreement with the economic principles of fascism", vs. "THIS USER IS A FASCIST AND PROUD OF IT, HERE, SEE THIS HUGE EAGLE!". There are ways of saying things. The mere word fascist is considered grossly inflammatory by a significant number of people, so it should be

1221:

3) To state that one is a conservative or a capitalist may annoy people but is unlikely to cause offence to more than a small minority. To say that one is a fascist, by the addition of a category, and further to loudly proclaim pride in that, is to risk giving serious offence to a significant number

5645:

A "minor detail" that an administrator must obtain consensus before he places a block for something like this? Never heard of the concept of "innocent until proven guilty"? A "minor detail" that before placing a block of "indefinite duration" that consensus must be ascertained? A "minor detail" that

4260:

I think we need at the least something actionable about Billy Ego's soapboxing, which is the reason we're here. A finding that it's inappropriate and can be further dealt with through normal administrative channels would do. And maybe something to deal with his evident tendency to use disruptive and

3725:

As for the Fascist Wikipedians category - I should weigh in since I'm really IMO the one who "saved" it (though i'd rather see it gone along with the rest of the political categories). Just because the category was restored does not mean your actions were correct. The DRV was clearly heading towards

3442:

about the POV blurb, not the quotes. Again, Billy Ego was blocked for having quotes on his user page. So, neither of these Noticeboard accounts are relevant. Morever, these discussions happened AFTER the blocks, so they cannot be used to show that Sandstein sought consensus before deleting/blocking.

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2) The locus of this dispute is whether administrator Sandstein is acting improperly by changing a user's user page and then placing a block on that user for explaining his own POV and/or having quotes on his user page, without going through a consensus-seeking process (including threatening a block

2819:

The specific content itself is not why I requested this arbitration. Regardless of what the content of my user page is, I requested this arbitration to challenge the practice of an administrator acting as judge, jury, and executioner in determing whether to block a user for explaining his POV and/or

2074:

Certainly. But challenging an administrator's threat to block a user for "indefinite duration" if that user makes changes to his user page that that administrator thinks might be in violation of some vague Knowledge (XXG) policy (or worse yet, "guideline), without obtaining verified consensus on the

1862:

9) The rightful power of a single administrator is limited. There are situations where a single administrator should not take the role of judge, jury, and executioner. There are situations where a single administrator should not preclude the community from expressing its opinion and judgement. There

1264:

All political labels are going to be somewhat "inflammatory" to someone else. However, if such a label inflames someone to such a degree that he goes into a flying rage, then that person has an emotional problem. The question is whether it is inflammatory, and how inflammatory it is, to a reasonable

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proper. So looking back I'm not sure that consultation would have added much to the situation, though it would have been the courteous thing for me to have done. But the block was for reinsertion of material, Billy promised to no longer reinsert it, and he has not reinserted it since the unblock.

4002:

12) An attempt is being made to punish Billy Ego, and from the looks of it it will be a successful attempt, to punish him for initiating this arbitration against an administrator and arguing the case against that administrator. Before he requested this arbitration there were no proposals for him to

3973:

04:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Where is the "disruption" in that? I am not a mind reader. I do not know what Sandstein will approve or disapprove of ahead of time. I was merely trying different ways to customize my user page that would cause him to cease the attacks. What I've been trying to get across

3013:

Sandstein took no survey before his actions. There is no way to know what the consensus is without asking for opinions first. Simply because a couple other users deleted content from my user page does not tell us what the opinion of the wider community is. Other users expressed discontent with what

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8) Unless content on a user page, or any other article, is unquestionably and egregiously vile, an administrator should not delete the content and then block that user without first obtaining a consensus on the matter (especially before a block of "indefinite duration", which Sandstein threatened).

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that forbids stating one's POV in "an excessive or polemical way." If there is such a policy, then whether it is "excessive" is obviously a very subjective judgement call. A competant and responsible administrator would recognize this and not take it upon himself to be judge, jury, and executioner.

1117:

Not without obtaining a consensus that what they have written is inflammatory or disruptive to a reasonable person (unless the material was obviously and indisputably so). The user has as much right to restore the material as someone else has to delete it, and to not be blocked for it, until such a

4659:

Very funny. The fact that I am pursuing this arbitration is obviously deeply unsettling to certain administrators. The fact that some administrators would even entertain the thought of a one year ban for challenging the limits of their authority is symptomatic of the underying forces at work here.

4456:

No such community or administrative consensus has been shown to exist. Morover, I have not added back the blurb explaining my POV, nor the quotes, so it is unclear what "faling to acknolwedge clear community and administrative consensus" means. Perhaps administrator Daniel.Bryant means that simply

4431:

Note that administrator Daniel.Bryant added this proposed remedy only after I submitted the above proposed remedy (2). Notice the about-face from his (1) proposed remedy. He has appeared to change course simply based on the fact that I requested disciplinary action against administrator Sandstein.

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14:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Looking back, this was predictable given this blatantly biased comment from an arbitratator agreeing to hear the case: "Accept. If we need to make it clear that Knowledge (XXG) is not a web hosting service and support an admin, we will. FloNight 11:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)"

2647:

Could you provide an example of someone's user page being aggressively moderated for a quote by such a person? I've seen quotes of various types on numerous user pages, including my own and the pages of several admins who are serving on ArbCom. I'm skeptical that someone would have objected to the

1835:

Irrelevant in this case (there was consensus) and actively harmful if taken literally - it would make it impossible for an admin to remove offensive content and subsequently block them, after due warning, for continuing to reinsert it. Of course it's always better with more eyes on a problem, but

1447:

Why would we allow people to simple avoid rules against posting libelous, defamatory, or inappropriate comment by just linking to an old version? If a banned user writes, "Hey Mr. Admin! You suck (insert vile personal attack)! I am going to sue Knowledge (XXG)!!", and someone removes their content

1070:

inflammatory on a user page they can remove it, repeatedly, which then gets the user blocked as a result. As a vandal fighter I'm familiar with users claiming ownership of their talk pages to remove warnings; but this seems different and somehow petty despite the high principles some are trying to

190:

I do still think that, given the situation at the time, the unblock was justified. Blocks are preventative, not puntative. Billy was blocked that time over his reinsertion of the large political paragraph. Multiple times. I was watching Billy's talk page after having warned Billy a week or two

5683:

You're completely wrong. I deleted the material in question from my user page. It is still deleted. I have simply come here to seek the guidance of the judicial system to determine whether the administrator acted within the law. As far as being here to disrupt and push an agenda, nothing could be

5623:

I ask this in good faith, in the attempt to clear up a minsunderstanding which seems to be affecting this workshop. I also apologise for anything stupid/offensive/silly/annoying I have said on this workshop up until this point. This page is for developing potential remedies for the Arbitrators to

4025:

Your vote should not count. Let the people vote and the outcome would be much different. Administrators/arbitrators should not be allowed to vote. There needs to be a system of checks and balances. Someone needs to police those in power. That's where the community should come in. That's the point

3855:

His views _are_ most certainly at issue here. Many of the arguments rest on whether the material removed was inappropriate solely due to length and general wordiness, or because he's a fascist, with JzG and Sandstein taking the latter view. Also, the result of this case, implicitly or explicitly,

3658:

What's "disruptive," depends on which side you're on. There was nothing intrinsically "disruptive" and certainly nothing improper about anything in the above. The Fascist Wikipedians category now exists, because I forced the issue to a proper vote (a successful challenge of improper administrator

1825:

As I read this, Sandstein contends that he did in fact have a consensus, not that it was acceptable to act without one. You should be aware that consensus is _not_ necessarily obtained by a regimented process such as voting. Also, your title took up a lot of space and left little room for an edit

1616:"Discouraged" possibly, but not blocked. And certainly not blocked without going through a process of achieving a consensus that determines whether the content is appropriate. And most definitely, not blocked for "indefinite duration" without such a process. Moreover, to my knowledge there is no 1550:

This would really be better said as a proposed finding that Sandstein used his administrative tools in a content dispute. However, you should be aware that edit warring is no more tolerated in your userspace than anywhere else, and while perhaps he should not have blocked you, someone else should

3672:

He could not bring himself to admit that I was not edit-warring and could not bring himself to lift to block Instead he throws out some vague accusation of "generally overaggressive editing" to justify the block. Later I was blocked for 3RR. However, I believe that administrator that placed this

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whose inclusion is disputed is clarification that his (stated elsewhere on the userpage) identification as "Fascist" refers to a mainly economic political stance, and specifically that it does not have anything to do with antisemitism (due to perhaps a perceived risk of being seen as antisemitic

3115:

Your understanding of consensus is flawed, and your understanding of how AN works is also. A consensus doesn't need to exist for administrators to make decisions - or else, why would all 1100 of them have the buttons? - but rather it is good to note in this case that there is consensus that what

2991:

Unilateral is often a term of abuse for an action that isn't liked. While all actions in themselves are unilateral, there are very, very few actions that do not command at least some support. Any action that can be defended on policy grounds is supported, if not authored, by Knowledge (XXG) as a

2637:

We shouldn't have a finding-of-fact that Fascism is or is not "a political philosophy that a reasonable person may hold" - that's way outside the jurisdiction of arbcom. Someone posting multiple lengthy quotes from more mainstream politicians like George Bush, Hillary Clinton or Tony Blair would

1410:

I disagree that this is accepted practice in the context of this case. History links to objectionable material are useful on discussion pages where a mere removal of the content would make the discussion hard to follow. On content pages, such as articles or user pages, a history link is merely a

1301:

I don't agree. It should not be regarded as intrinsically inflammatory to express one's agreement with a political doctrine. There is a strong tradition on Knowledge (XXG) of declaring one's biases. This is not the same as engaging in polemical discourse in defence of those biases. There is a

5695:

I'm not gonna spend much time on this because it is quite obvious you have no interest in truthfully discussing the issue here but only twists the truth and flat out lie to try to advance any point you have. Those attitudes might make you a good lawyer but it makes you a very bad wikipedian.

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Proposed. It's not time to show him the door yet, but he does need to understand that edit warring is not on. Behaviour in this arbitration is problematic, but that's not entirely surprising since he's had a rude awakening, discovering all of a sudden that his arbitration "against" Sandstein is

3129:

You have no evidence that "there is consensus that what Sandstein did was supported by the community at large." Such a forum was never created to analyze this. A few administrators eager to fight against limitations on their power, chiming in on a Noticeboard, does not reflect "the community at

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This is a page for working on arbitration decisions. The arbitrators, parties to the case, and other editors may draft proposals and post them to this page for review and comments. Proposals may include proposed general principles, findings of fact, remedies, and enforcement provisions—the same

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9) When Billy Ego notified Sandstein that he was going to reisinert the material he deleted from his user page, since arbitrators stated that he should have sought consensus first, Sandstein threatened a block of "indefinite duration" in an attempt to prevent Billy Ego from defying his wishes.

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to do stuff without submitting form 3b in triplicate and waiting three months for a reply, and inaccurate because firstly there is broad consensus that user space is not a soapbox, and admins reviewing Sandstein's actions broadly supported them, and secondly, there have been half a dozen other

1531:

No. What is in dispute is whether you should be allowed to block a user, and make threats of blocks of "indefinite duration" against that user, to prevent that user from editing his user page, when that material you are deleting has not been subject to a successful consensus-seeking process to

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11) Billy Ego was not blocked for having the POV blurb on his page. He had already compromised by allowing that to be deleted and then placed a link to the blurb. When he was told by Sandstein that links are not allowed, he compromised further and displayed a "diff" to show it was deleted (As

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was about the blurb, so it's not relevant to the later "one week" block which was for the quotes. The blurb had already been deleted when Billy Ego was blocked for "one week." Billy Ego asked later, on Administrator's Noticeboard, after the "one week" block, what he should do, since the first

3416:

not acceptable. If the reason a four-foot placard is unacceptable is because the limit is three feet, it doesn't matter if he asks before coming back with a two-foot one. The reason that Sandstein had broad support was, as stated by some of the users supporting him, because of the rule about

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19:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC) I respect the process. That's why I'm here. I do not want to violate any Knowledge (XXG) policies. I simply want to make sure that proper procedure by an administrator is followed before blocking a user, as well as to make sure that what I had on my user page was

1335:, I suppose this must by necessity extend, in a very general sense, to our user and discussion pages. As such, I'm hesitant to call any specific expression of POV inappropriate on its face, except in extreme cases like "this user advocates eating babies". (Although fascism comes close to 3434:

7) Sandstein deleted the quotes and blocked Billy Ego, with the duration of his personal choice, without determining whether there was a consensus to do either. There are some claims being made that the Administrator's noticeboard showed a consensus, however this exchange on the AN/I

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04:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC) It seems that many people involved in this are (IMO incorrectly) reading the essay as a sort of manifesto, whereas my impression is he is simply explaining (perhaps at more length than necessary) what sort of "fascist" he is (as opposed to, one supposes,

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Sandstein was doing. And, the fact that Sandstein said he would block me for "indefinite duration" without knowing for certain what the consensus is is shocking. This shows that Sandstein has little concern for truth and justice. Sandstein is ill-equiped to be an adminstrator.

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17) Fascism, divorced of anti-semitism, is a political philosophy that a reasonable person may hold, and a self-identification of an individual editor as holding such views, while distasteful to some, does not rise to the level of "likely to bring the project into disrepute"

1758:

In the interest of having the proposal be a complete thought, I have appended material from the linked page. "vehicle for propaganda" may be pertinent here (though he insists that what was called propaganda was in fact necessary to clarify that he's not an anti-semite)

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Proposed. Principle 11 and Finding of fact 3, in my opinion, sum up why. Unless, of course, ArbCom wants to impose a sanction on Billy Ego for being annoying and disruptive, or if someone wants to think up something new with regard to maybe controlling the content of

3243:

No, that's not true. Sandstein didn't block you for having the quotes, he blocked you for repeatedly reinserting them, and other polemical content, in defiance of numerous requests not to. This is similar to your three other blocks for edit warring in mainspace.

1595:

6) While editors may wish to put a bias or viewpoint out in the open to help in evaluation by others, making such a declaration in an excessive or polemical way, especially on contentious issues like politics, may be offensive to other editors and is discouraged.

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I do not agree with Billy Ego that consensus must be ascertained in a specific way "before the fact", but I do not think that there was consensus that the quotes alone were inappropriate, nor that the consensus that the essay was inappropriate was policy-based.

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what that page is designed to describe. How else would you characterise standing on your rights to defend something which several people have asked you not to do because it is likely to cause grave offence to others? Read the Meta article. Specifically:

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behavior). I recreated it because I had every right to recreate it. It's no surprise that this would upset adminstrators who feel they should not have to go through such a process. It's no surprise that such an administrator would call this "disruptive."

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delete due to dislike of political categories in general. He is also now aware of the existence of deletion review (he evidently was not before), and can probably be expected to go there with any deleted categories he wishes to recreate in the future. --

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Now it's been upped to "banned from Knowledge (XXG) indefinitely." This is completely irrational and emotionally motivated. All I can say is thank God this is not real life with real police officers, because I'm certain I would have shot dead by now.

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He states that he's a fascist at the top of the page; the essay is an explanation of what he means by it. I've updated the wording to mention that it's fascism, since you seem to want it there and since he self-identifies it seems fine to say it.

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Disputed. The problem was twofold: a polemical essay, and a reluctance to accept that it was polemical and liable to cause offence. We have also blocked users for self-identifying as paedophiles; user space is not the place to set up a soapbox.

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I didn't mean to convey the impression that they were. Poor choice of words on my part perhaps...but an admin threatening a permanent block for something I see as well within the editor's rights is what I have a problem with. As I read it, it is

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Factually inaccurate. Billy Ego was blocked for testing the boundaries by continually stepping over them. If you are told that waving a four-foot placard is unacceptable, you don't come back the next day with a two-foot placard, you ask what

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Billy Ego has been presuming that he acted unilaterally and that it goes without saying. (incidentally, you're free to propose that he did act unilaterally, but building your whole argument on it when it's not likely to be accepted is unwise)

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I think we are in agreement on that. While fascism is, in my moderately humble opinion, a grossly offensive political philosophy, most of us Wikipedians hail from polities where even extremist minorities are free to voice their opinion. Since

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without prior consultation with me, the blocking admin. I believe TexasAndroid has acted in good faith, and I am not going to propose remedies with regard to him. However, I believe it could be beneficial if ArbCom were to reestablish that

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20:32, 20 March 2007) As a compromise after that, Billy did not reinsert the "diff" but simply put some quotes on his page. Sandstein then blocked for "one week" for the quotes, and Billy Ego has not put the quotes back on his user page.

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I don't edit Knowledge (XXG) based on my "opinion." I add material to Knowledge (XXG) with sources attached. Almost all of my additions are still present in the articles because they are obviously true and beneficial to the encyclopedia.

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Yup. This was discussed in the appropriate venue, the admin noticeboards, and broad support was expressed. This was not in any way a unilateral action by Sandstein, as evidence the number of editors who had removed content from

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Your request resulted in many people viewing your user pages. My vote, at least, is based on their content which is damaging to the reputation of Knowledge (XXG). Perhaps you could try bumper stickers and see how that works out.

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Remember, there are _two_ parties to this arbitration, both of whose actions are being examined. This helps to establish that just because a formal straw poll was not taken it does not mean that Sandstein acted unilaterally.

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that's got it wrong? I'd say that your failure to allow for that possibility is the single biggest problem you face, and is the main reason that a ban rather than parole or some other restriction has such wide support.

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Sandstein supports a one year ban on me. Need I say more about his unfitness to have administrator power? There is obviously something very wrong with his judgement ability. This is an adminstrator who knows no bounds.

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16) Editing in a manner so as to intentionally provoke other editors is a form of trolling and goes against established Knowledge (XXG) policies, as well as the spirit of Knowledge (XXG) and the will of its editors.

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1.1) Editors are generally permitted to include in their userspace a limited amount of non-inflammatory personal expression not directly related to encyclopedic collaboration, including moderate declarations of POV.

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3) For acting in a way which was consistantly disruptive, and failing to acknowledge clear community and administrative consensus in doing so, Billy Ego's editing privileges are suspended for a period of 14 days.

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are situations where a single adminstrator should not usurp the authority of the arbitrators by imposing whatever sentence he wishes for what he personally interprets to be a violation of Knowledge (XXG) policy.

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I disagree. The wording as written is too adversarial, but I do think Sandstein's threat was excessive and did not reflect a willingness to allow Billy Ego to find a non-objectionable way to present his views.

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Proposed. The proposed remedy above (block an administrator for a month and desysop for two when they are acting within consensus is totally ridiculous), as well as all his responses above (see NYB's comment

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actually a review of his own behaviour. With a mixture of kindness and firmness he may become a productive editor. Measures to limit his negative impact on the project are, however, probably appropriate.

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either and no-one's proposing banning people from self-identifying as that. If it doesn't pass, fine, but a lot of people are acting as if it's beyond questioning that it is offensive/inflammatory/whatever.

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I fully concur that there was nothing objectionable about the content on his page other than it being too wordy. When one is likely to be taken for a racist, clarification seems to me eminently reasonable.

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Billy Ego, the phrasing you are using in some of your proposals, including the titles, is unnecessarily strident. I believe you will make your points more effectively if you use more moderate language.

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Given what he clearly explains (in the very content whose inclusion is disputed) to be his definition of "fascism", it comes NOWHERE close to "this user advocates eating babies". Can you explain what

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I agree in principle with the finding, although instead of "...an explanation of his political stance..." I propose "...an essay stating his political position as a fascist..."; and I would add a

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1) The locus of the dispute in this case is the content of Billy Ego's userpage, specifically the presence (or not) of an explanation of his fascist political views and of a collection of quotes

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I make no judgement here of the validity of the original block. Nor of any other aspects of this case. So beyond what I've said above, I'm really not sure what else I have to add to things. -

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Sandstein has said that he objected to the material because it amounted to turning the user page into free webspace. I disagree with his assessment, but I don't think there's any reason not

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that Billy Ego's quotations (and perhaps a less polemical statement of POV) are objectionable content. Sandstein went through the correct process once; why are short-cuts being taken now?

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Actually I think it's completely relevant. Billy Ego's insistence on having a soapboxy user page after being asked with escalating degrees of firmess by several long-established users is

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arbitration request was rejected and Sandstein had made a threat of a block of "indefinite duration" against him. Note that the adminstrators were giving their opinion in that discussion

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straighten Sandstein out on the limits of his authority. The purpose was to prevent Sandstein from acting as judge, jury, and executioner. That is, to prevent him from blocking me for an

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I disagree that this dispute can be characterised as a content dispute (in which of course I would have been wrong to use admin tools). This is not about what either of us wants an

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Not sure of the relevance, can you explain which practices you mean? And, anyway, shouldn't people be writing these down? Having an "unwritten constitution", so to speak, is a bit

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three statements in this proposal. If you were to strike the last three bits from that proposal I would have no problem with it...but then it would be irrelevant to this case.

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13) While a poll can be a useful way of measuring consensus in some situations, it is not the only way, or in most cases the best way to do so. That a poll was not taken does

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having quotes on his user page (including using the threat of a block of "indefinite duration") instead of going through a consensus-seeking process to justify his actions.

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Should I have contacted Sandstein? Likely. But I felt I understood the situation well enough, and that Billy's promise had changed the situation such that his block was

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evidence that he had not reinserted the POV blurb when the first block (48 hours) was placed, and that he compromised by only placing a "diff", see Sandstein deleting:

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4) It is accepted practice to provide links to the page history for material that has been removed, even if reinserting the material itself would not be acceptable.

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Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

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I like this better than the above proposals. While his behavior has hardly been exemplary, he has (to me, at least) shown the ability to learn from his mistakes.

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When you start accusing everyone of being in on a conspiracy, you shouldn't be surprised if they decide to confirm your paranoia by banding together against you.

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Irrelevant, and based on a false premise. Admins are allowed to protect pages and block people indefinitely, but that is not absolute in that it can be appealed.

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Sounds like a good idea. I assumed that this would be actionable based on the evidence statement itself, but no checkuser result has been published there so far.

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Any supposed consensus on Administrator's noticeboard was after the block was over and I was complaining. An administrator is supposed to determine consensus

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has, since his arrival on Knowledge (XXG), been engaged largely in a variety of disruptive behaviors, including interfering with the deletion nomination of

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vexatious process against anything he disagrees with. I'll leave it to those more familiar with ArbCom to come up with appropriate findings and remedies.

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mean that seeking other opinions is wrong, but rather refers to the numerous problems caused by setting up polls of opinions early in a discussion. --

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necessary tension here--at some point (and usually sooner rather than later) one's elaboration of one's viewpoint becomes unacceptable proselytism. --

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I would prefer not to be added, but if I must, I must. I try to avoid this part of the project, because drama and in-fighting are just not my thing.

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of the dispute may include what you've stated in this paragraph (if your chronology is accurate). Let's not spend too much time on the semantics.

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further from the truth. I have come here to help improve the encyclopedia on matters concerning fascism. My contribution has been very valuable.

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I'm sorry. I was talking in the abstract – whether a self-identification as "fascist" in the sense the word is commonly used, i.e. synonymous to

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enforce. I see a line in the sand at the user space that has been crossed, perhaps for good reason(s), but still shouldn't have been crossed. -

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Non-inflammatory? Clarify. While I do not agree with Billy Ego's philosophical decisions/outlook; I also cannot agree with the notion that if

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I guess I can see two interlinked issues here. 1) Should Billy have been unblocked? 2) Should I have consulted Sandstein ahead of time.

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15) Certain customary practices used on Knowledge (XXG) are not written down, but can be ascertained by communication with other users.

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them, and inflammatory or otherwise disruptive material may be removed by anyone and they may be blocked if they continue re-adding it.

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Billy Ego made compromise after compromise in trying to customize his user page (POV blurb was already gone when he was first blocked)

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Does this refer to the fact that this is Billy Ego's second trip here? If so, it is probably merited, but rejecting the case citing

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3) While dissent also existed, there was substantial input from others supporting Sandstein's actions at the time they were taken.

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the reality is that most cases are completely unambiguous and we really don't want to open the door to Wikilawyering in this way.

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of "indefinite duration" without going through a consensus seeking-process in order to prevent user from editing his user page).

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P.S. There is a reason that RFAR's do not have a "plaintiff" and "defendant". You should stop treating this as a courtroom.

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to say – I have never to my knowledge edited an article Billy Ego worked on. It's about the application and enforcement of

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The essay was only slightly polemical, and not beyond fixing. No-one suggested anything other than wholesale removal. --

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without such clarification). However, that is not to say that its tone does not at times tend to be somewhat polemical.

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format as is used in Arbitration Committee decisions. The bottom of the page may be used for overall analysis of the

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endorsing the deletion (and thus keeping it deleted) before my arguments (among a few others) turned it around. --

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Sandstein threatened a block of "indefinite duration" in an attempt to prevent Billy Ego from defying his wishes

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applies to all namespaces, notwithstanding the somewhat greater latitude traditionally accorded in user space.

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used with care and a degree of sensitivity. I think that overall it is sensitivity which is lacking here.

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Billy Ego was blocked for one week for having quotes on his user page. Ego had already deleted the "blurb."

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who is learning rather too slowly how best to fit those opinions into the Knowledge (XXG) way of working.

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on or about which the dispute took place. The locus is your user page, not a paraphrase of your argument.

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This is beside the point. The right of Billy Ego to edit his user page, as such, is not in dispute. What

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I endorse the proposed remedy. Then maybe the rest of us can get back to work on the encyclopedia?

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_extensive_ material not related to the encyclopedia, not anything about supposed offensiveness. --

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14:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC) How dare a lowly user question the authority of an adminstrator, right?

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10) Billy Ego has not put the disputed material back on his user page since the "one week" block.

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collectivism and economic opposition to both capitalism and communism, in favor of a "third way."

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is to be followed in all but very obvious cases. — I have notified TexasAndroid of this motion

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This isn't at issue here. Users aren't allowed to contravene policy on their own user pages.

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Billy Ego has not put the disputed material back on his user page since the "one week" block

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seems fairly fundamental to what is appropriate for userpage content revealing biases. --

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violation of policy without obtaining a consensus. That is the "locus" of this dispute.

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think fascism means, since it's apparently relevant to the way you have reacted here. --

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It's clear now that the last thing we need here is yet more complicated process. Sorry.

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Proposed 4.1 in light of the "judgement" comment above. For a complete collection, see

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I see neither hope for reform nor productivity enough to justify softer measures here.

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months; my opinion on the latter is that it would be too punative, but that's just me.

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whether the content being edited or reverted is that of an admnistrator or a plebeian

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No finding of fact has, as far as i can tell, been proposed that the quotes were

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Apparently the same also applies to more than half our Arbitrators. Maybe it's

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Sandstein deleted the quotes and blocked Billy Ego without determining consensus

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quotes on Billy Ego's page if they had belonged to any of the people you named.

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Sandstein placing the one week block, and saying it was because of the quotes:

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Proposed. I don't personally agree with fascism, but, then, I don't agree with

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is "when two or more contributors repeatedly revert one another's edits to an

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will determine whether the material will be allowed to be on his userpage. --

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My AGF of Billy, in this one aspect, has been shown to have been well placed.

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discussion is better than edit warring, and stop edit warring as a result.

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editors who have removed the same or similar content from your user page.

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We have done this, but the results were different from this hypothesis.

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be run regarding the suggested connection between the following users:-

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not mean consensus was not "sought", nor that there was no consensus.

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New here, aren't you? Some of us remember the pedophilia userbox war.

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This was completely uncalled for. Insulting people _never_ helps. --

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Sandstein's "administrator" title does not grant him absolute power

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superficial means to cover up objectionable content. If, as here (

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Yes, I withdraw it as it appears there will need to be remedies.

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Proposed as an alternative to address the objections to 3 above.

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as much of a right to edit and revert content as anyone else

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and recreating it multiple times once it had been deleted (

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is banned from Knowledge (XXG) for a period of one year.

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acknowledging that Sandstein's actions were appropriate.

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should not be used for frivolous or pointless disputes.

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Sandstein did was supported by the community at large.

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have blocked (perhaps both of) you for edit warring. --

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of the dispute is primarily Billy Ego's userpage. The

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select and vote on, not to bicker and fight. Cheers,

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Irrelevant and wrong. Irrelevant because admins are

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Yes, well done, that's really what I was getting at.

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Nope, proposed principle 14 is what highlighted it.

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Block Sandstein and suspend administrator privileges

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summary, are you ok with this shortened version? --

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Sandstein deleting the quotes: 2097:might have made the case just as well :-) 52:Adding TexasAndroid as a party to the case 4894:Billy Ego banned from creating categories 4734:On the basis of FoF 8, strongly endorse. 665:The latter three are all the one person, 35:and for general discussion of the case. 3770:Billy Ego's views aren't at issue here. 1035:and current general consensus on MFD. -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration 292:), hereby respectfully requesting that 4912:) is banned from creating categories. 4178:1) {text of proposed finding of fact} 4137:1) {text of proposed finding of fact} 4096:1) {text of proposed finding of fact} 2799:by Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini. 286:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for checkuser 3227:page. Sandstein deleting the quotes: 2226:They can also call other people dicks 7: 4813:Billy Ego placed on standard parole 2056:May also be needed, unfortunately. 1944:10) While not explicitly stated on 1518:in dispute, among other things, is 46:Motions and requests by the parties 5268:5) {text of proposed enforcement} 5227:4) {text of proposed enforcement} 5186:3) {text of proposed enforcement} 5145:2) {text of proposed enforcement} 5101:1) {text of proposed enforcement} 3047:prior to Sandstein's involvement. 2975:Sandstein did not act unilaterally 2432:, for and on behalf of The Cabal. 1568:on a non-article page. 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