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1017:. Just because many of the articles you find using the template are non-notable, that doesn't mean all of them should be deleted, along with the template. I can think of a few articles with the template that detail an album that's in the process of recording/awaiting release with a date set, etc. I think that could fall under "scheduled event". If you find any articles that merit deletion, you should deal with them on an individual basis rather than try to get rid of a template many of them happen to share. 1230:, precisely because these are often problem articles, and the template can be an easy way to find articles that need review. It also serves a purpose for the reader, letting them know to take the information in the article with a grain of salt. Like Orangemike, I am frustrated at the number of non-notable album articles out there, but instead of throwing out the template, I prefer to work on the real problem, the articles themselves. (FWIW, when someone uses a 1375:. It's not the fault of the template that the articles end up with crystal balling. Having the template will also allow all to see which albums have been created as new albums, allowing moderators and admins to keep an eye on such articles and see if they're worthy of their own articles. Perhaps the template could include 795:. At present there are over 600 albums in this category, more than a few of which will never even come into existence, and many more of which will never be notable. In an ideal move, I'd like to include the deletion of most of the articles falling in this category, for the same reasons of general non-notability. β€” 2165:
there's a field for Titular reference (ie, which 80s song the episode is named after) but there has been no definite confirmation by the producers/networks to each song for each title so it's all original research. (3) If an episode does become deemed notable, the regular episode infobox will suffice. β€”
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This is my first template deletion nomination, so I hope I'm doing it right. (1) The template isn't being used on any episode articles, because each episode article has been redirected to the main list of episodes page. (2) The only difference between this template and the regular infobox episode is
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So, by your reasoning, an article on a new album should be created on the day of its release? Knowledge articles on future albums are often the internet's most looked-to source for information on that particular album, as they are typically a culmination of all information floating around on the
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in it to encourage editors to make the articles at a standard worthy of keeping the article, but again the reason the delete the template itself ("This category/template serves as a blatant magnet...") is hardly its own fault. That would be the fans of the artist, particularly those who lack
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that I just added a guideline note to the noinclude section of the template. I believe this sufficiently addresses the concerns raised by this TfD, but recognises per above that there is plenty of scope for encyclopedic articles with verifiable information on future albums.
1611:, and establish as a precedent for the standardisation of all portal link templates. The benefits of having all the portal links in one place and using standardised formatting easily outweigh the logisistical difficulties of completing such a consolidation. 913:. There seems to be a strong belief out there that every album, EP or single that ever was or ever will be is inherently notable; notability is becoming a joke in this area. The ultimate result is the response below this one, from 1313:
Can be used effectively. You say there are over 600 albums with this tag, so feel free to nominate the articles for deletion. This template does serve a purpose, and some encyclopedic content can be branded with this
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per nom, and yes, you're doing it exactly right. Like the listing just above, this template would also be a candidate for speedy deletion under
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Template for 3 games in a series with no real use - a see also section could include this information, thus making this template unnecessary. .
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Doesn't really seem to be a real reason to delete a useful categorizational tool. Might as well stop user's abilities to make articles. ♣
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of the articles tagged by this template, but please consider the existence of articles that are notable and based on verifiable claims.
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violations, articles about obviously non-notable recordings, rumor-monging, and general fancruft, completely ignoring the fact that
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as per all of the above. It's not a magnet for CRYSTAL violations, it's just a notice that the album's not out yet.
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I considered that, but given the big "disputed" box that was there when I filed this I decided to go here.
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per above, and because this navbox is not useful for navigation. For example, if you're looking up the
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If this AND the scrubs episode pages are gone then I'll have no more reasons to even use wikipedia.
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violations, but it also serves as a tracking device to afd, prod, or speedy those violations.
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argument in an AfD, it's perfectly okay to point out that it's not a valid reason to keep.)--
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is not an invitation to create an article about somebody because they are a living person.
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I don't see a need to have this template on its own. Suggest merge with
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It's not helpful, but it is a correct description in this case...
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You're right of course, changing my !vote (like it matters)...
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If you find any others similar, mark them with 884:I agree with Orange Mike that it's a magnet for 2036:and we can save on the bureaucracy of a TfD. 8: 1150:Calling someone a sore loser isn't helpful. 509:. 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Knowledge:Templates for deletion
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February 5
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deletion review
RyanGerbil10
(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!)
00:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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23:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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04:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
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deletion review
RyanGerbil10
(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!)
00:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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