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1108:. You are correct that the standards for fair use on the English Knowledge (XXG) are more restrictive than the letter of the law itself. This is by design, and likely partly due to the fact that we are the highest profile non-profit website in the world by a wide margin, and almost certainly use more fair use content than anyone else by a wide margin as well. Part of this is also due to the desire to make our content free for everyone, which tends to run counter to fair use, and can be frustrating for others who attempt to reuse content from Knowledge (XXG) elsewhere. At the same time, we are quite a bit more permissive than other Wikimedia Foundation projects, like Wikimedia Commons or the German Knowledge (XXG), which do not allow non-free content at all, or the French Knowledge (XXG), which only allows non-free content in exceptionally limited circumstances, like logos of companies and depictions of currencies. 132:. Welcome to the Teahouse. I hope we can help you. First of all, can you tell me if the picture you want to add to a page is one that, either a) you took yourself and therefore you own the copyright?, or b) is a picture you have already located either on Wikimedia Commons or somewhere where it is absolutely clear the photographer has authorised it is free to use - even commercially? You'll see this because there will a wording something like 'Creative Commons licence' by it. I ask this question first, because we do not allow any old image found on the internet to be used on Knowledge (XXG). Looking forward to hearing back from you. Regards from the UK, 650:(edit conflict) If you open an account, you will be autoconfirmed in four days and ten edits, which is easy for you. As I said above, if you mention this IP address on your new user page, then any administrator evaluating your request for any other user permissions can take your IP edits into account, if they feel that they are relevant. As far as I know, there is no way to otherwise link your IP edits to a new account. Editors with better technical skills than I may correct me. I believe that there are many benefits to having an account, but that is optional and the choice is yours. 850:
ask myself "Were they right? Did I really make it worse?" If I did (and it does happen), I might even show I accepted they were right by going to the edit history on the page in question and hitting the blue (thank) link which sends a little "thank you" message to that editor. (It's my way of saying sorry, you were right) Of course, I might actually be cross and tempted for a moment to hit the blue (undo) link and revert their reversion - but that only starts off what we call an "edit war" which we all need to avoid getting into. (You can read more on that
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in a way that sounds polite, neutral and not antagonistic is never the easiest thing to do in type-written text, but this is how best to start a discussion. Do it calmly and politely and it should lead to a consensus on the best way to improve an article. Many times it can be best just to shrug one's shoulders and not worry about the fact that there is always more than one way to phrase something, so moving on to the next task can often be best way. Does any of this help? Regards from the UK,
998:, a tutorial structured as a game, before attempting to create a new article. Please understand that successfully creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Knowledge (XXG); it takes time and practice. New users who dive right in to article creation often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings over the process; those users who are most successful at article creation started small by making edits to existing articles, to better learn the ropes. I hope this helps you. 2602:
cannot see a way that now changing your mind over its licencing would result in the image's removal from Wikimedia Commons and thus Knowledge (XXG). Either way, once an image has been released, other third parties are also still free to use it under that original licence, in perpetuity - whether taken from your Flickr site back then, or from Wiki Commons, or indeed anywhere else. Sorry I cannot be of more assistance or comfort to you. Regards from the UK,
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Equally, I can see other editors are making changes in a positive spirit, too, and I liked some of your edits and rationales better, but some of the minor changes and explanations others made were justifiable and preferable, too. So, there I think you all seem to be working relatively cooperatively, notwithstanding the minor differences of opinion on wording and content. I suspect you are aware of the
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say about them: it is really only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have published about them. The very fact that your organisation have asked you to write an article about them suggests that they are under the (very common) misapprehension that a Knowledge (XXG) article about them in any sense belongs to them. --
744:, and almost impossible to do. How likely am I to write about myself in a neutral, independent manner? Could I prove all the wonderful things I would want to say about myself, using only stuff that newspapers, TV and books have said about me? (My own website would be excluded as it's not seen as independent.) We call this a ' 2269:. If you cannot get outside participation, then it defaults to no inclusion. Sometimes that happens (usually on niche topics where specialized expertise is needed to fully grasp the subject), but considering the article you propose to edit, IĀ am fairly sure you would have a dozen of comments within a week of opening an RfC. 3394:" subjects, which does not mean "worthy of interest" in Knowledge (XXG) parlance, but "have been the subject of in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources". Your proposed article may therefore not qualify. I cannot tell if that is a problem or not (deleted pages can only be seen by administrators). You may find 495:
covered similarly by the Boston Globe and Discover Magazine. I feel this person is attempting to take the contribution hostage because it does not conform to his/her point of view? What is the best way to address this issue? I am an expert on this topic in academia and am less familiar with my paths to recourse here.
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Since I have a Conflict of Interest for this page, I am not able to remove the alert boxes myself. I am still fairly new to Knowledge (XXG) and the process so I would like advice on the next steps we should complete to request that these 2 alert boxes be removed. Any suggestions you have would be much appreciated.
165:, I must tell you that there are much much much more urgent issues than getting a picture. As it stands that article is likely to be deleted, because it has almost no references (the cited page on Soccerway has very little information about him personally) and consequently does not establish that he is 2248:
It is not a matter of time. If someone had drive-by reverted you, and refused to engage on talk or elsewhere, you would be justified in re-reverting after (IMO) about a week (give or take, depending how much the article is watched, the inclusion controversial, the other editor active, etc.). But I do
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Hello anon. That is a strange error and I'm not sure I've seen it myself. You may want to try restarting your browser, your machine, or clearing your browsing data, and see if any of those help the problem. In the worst case scenario, if you are absolutely not able to create an account, you can still
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It would be best to upload to WikiCommons. When logged-in click contributions at the top of any page, then 'uploads' (just under the main heading), then WikiCommons in the first line. Once at commons click 'upload file' on the left. The upload wizard will take you through the steps to upload and the
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if you wish.) So, what I'd recommend doing if you really feel your version was a genuine improvement is going to that editor's talk page and adding a new topic, politely inviting them to explain why they felt the original version was better, and what it was that made them undo your change. Doing this
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Read again what you were told above. You released it under an irrevocable licence, and this was confirmed when the photo was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Any changes which you subsequently made at Flickr do not affect the use of the photo under the licence conditions under which it was released.
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article since April 2016, and that your attempts have been reverted each time. This must be very frustrating for you. Your image appears to have been legitimately obtained from your Flickr account when you clearly licenced it (essentially for non-commercial and commercial use, in perpetuity) subject
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There are probably a lot of people who get into trouble on Knowledge (XXG) primarily for fundamentally misunderstanding Knowledge (XXG) policies and applying a different standard that might apply elsewhere, but doesn't necessarily apply here. But it's important to understand that if someone left you
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The New Page review is quite backlogged right now; it's not uncommon for a review to take more than a month. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a way to speed it up very much; reviewing an article takes time, and I presume most new page creators would be in a similar state of mind as you. If
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From what I see, another editor has expressed their opposition to your proposed changes (multiple times) with arguments that are not obviously trolling or disruptive. If you repost a similar request, they are under no obligation to address it, and their previous opposition still stands, pretty much
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Hi there IP user. Welcome. You ask a very good question, and at times it can seem almost like a personal insult when someone abruptly reverts an edit you have made in all good faith to an article. (It happens to every single one of us). But try not to look at it like that. The first thing I'd do is
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We are working on updates to the "John Langeloth Loeb Jr." Knowledge (XXG) page. Currently we have two alert boxes: "like resume" and "BLP unsourced section" on the page. Since these alert boxes were posted we have made several updates to the text and format of the page and have added 40 citations.
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and follow its instructions. There are basically two reasons for the procedures outlined there: we need some proof that the original holder of copyright does consent to its use (not just "someone with unconfirmed identity told us so over the internet"), and that they are aware that release under a
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Thank both of you. I think I understand the issue. The point is that Facebook uses the redirect page for displaying my profile, therefore it says "my name" "blablabla" "studied at the London School of Economics and SOCIAL Science", which is wrong and annoying. I am going to try the "embedded file"
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You are correct about the title, of course, but the LSE is also strong on social sciences, and we can't stop people searching with the wrong title, so we try to help by redirecting them to the correct title. Facebook also has a similar redirect for those who search under the wrong title. Everyone
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Actually I changed the license on it two years ago. It's now under copyright all rights reserved. I want it taken down because i never intended it to be shared and the people in the photo probably would not like it either. Now the photo is changed to a different attribute, cannot be downloaded. IT
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My complaint is that the information concerning my edits creating and editing this article is lost. Rather, the content of the article titled Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900, some 32,000 bytes, was merged and/or re-titled and the creators and editors of those 32,000 bytes are not credited in
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interested in information that has already been published in a reliable source (one with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking). Furthermore, Knowledge (XXG) has very little interest in what a subject says about themselves, or what their friends, relatives, associates, or employees,
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Assuming the video is your own copyright (and contains no copyrighted music etc) I'm afraid you will still probably need to convert your video into a file format acceptable for uploading to Wikimedia Commons. (MPEGs and AVI are popular formats NOT licenced for free use, so must be converted into a
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We like to handle things transparently here; if you had posted with your original account and pointed to the real incident, we could have given more specific advice right away. Yes, it may mean that the people you complain about will find what you say, but that is a feature, not a bug. If you have
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I am having a problem which i stated on 24 October but it is not yet resolved. EYorkshire(32) st Angelia-This is the name of a place in the document "List of UK Parliamentary constituencies (1801ā€“32)". I need to know whether that name is correct or not. If not,please give the correct name(couldn't
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Text and/or other creative content from Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900 was copied or moved into Siege of Beijing Legation Quarter with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter
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to seek an independent review of the issues involved. (I'm definitely not urging you to lodge any complaints over the Red Dragon page - things there look fine at present, but this is the system in place where matters of real concern can be raised, if necessary.) Hoping this helps, and keep up the
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which stops tit-for-tat edit-warring, and can lead to a formal complaint and blocking of one or more editors for a period of time? You want to avoid getting into that, but would I walk away? Sometimes yes, where it doesn't really matter or impact on the quality of the article. But at other times,
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to understand why writing about yourself is frowned upon. If you honestly feel you are so noteworthy that Knowledge (XXG) needs a page about you, I'd still suggest you leave it to other editors to do, and your role could be simply to highlight where they can find independent sources to base their
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Hey Eddie, thanks for your question. I think what you've suggested is just fine. Sometimes authors or others offer downloadable copies of articles on personal or professional websites; I generally avoid linking to these sites in general because they can go down at anytime, whereas the information
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says above (and knowing that the default setting on Flickr accounts is for 'all rights reserved'), you obviously did back then intend the image to be used and freely available by anyone, forever - for which I'm sure we are all very grateful to you. (It is a nice photograph, by the way). I really
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OK, I understood what happened: the wrong LSE & Social Science was on Facebook (unofficial page), not on Knowledge (XXG). I just had to change my profile with a new entry to the correct LSE page, then delete the wrong entry. Sorry about all this. Should I delete this whole message, as it is
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Creative Commons licence. I also note that an administrator specifically checked the licencing and confirmed it was correct, and that you did release it. As such, the image was wholly acceptable for placing on Wikimedia Commons. I can imagine how irksome this is for you, because you now want to
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connection between your new account and your previous IP editing. But you can certainly place a note on your new user page that mentions your previous edits under specific IP addresses. Any editor evaluating your overall contributions to the encyclopedia can consider those edits as well. If you
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That's a difficult one to answer, because it depends on the precise situation. I've looked at the recent revisions of the Red Dragon film you mention, and it's clear you've taken absolutely the right path in discussing things in a non-confrontational way on the Talk Page or via edit summaries.
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It does seem a pity to "throw away" six months of edits, but it is still worth creating an account, and you can link your IP contributions on your user page as suggested above if you don't mind people knowing your IP address. In any assessment of your contributions, these IP edits can then be
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Hi, I have published an article in a peer-reviewed journal on digital goods. I added a summary of this work to the page and it was removed by SPECIFICO, who is threatening to ban me from WIkipedia. I am an expert on this topic, the article was published in a reputable academic journal, and was
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Yesterday I wanted to submit an article about a musical instrument of my father. However, the text in the article is directly from his own website so due to copyright issues the site was deleted right after I tried to upload it. Afterwards, he gave me permission to upload the article from his
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If you think the warning you were given was incorrect, you should first try to contact whoever left it to you to have clarification both ways (they may explain to you why they left it, or they might realize they warned you incorrectly). If this fails, you may complain about user conduct at
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I'll start with your last question. Most competent editors are here to improve Knowledge (XXG). This involves improving existing articles when they are, or could be, acceptable; and getting rid of them when they aren't. The usual reason for treating an article as unacceptable is lack of
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this photo is no longer useable! I have switched the rights on it and so any and all uploads of it has to be removed! IT is no longer under creative commons and I can sue anyone that is using it without my consent! I own all rights to that photo and you will need to remove it asap
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for my edits, does that mean the past 500+ edits cant't be used to count for me? Like, if I want access to protected sites or if I wanted to expand my role in Knowledge (XXG)? (Sorry it took me some time to respond. Trying to figure out what to do with this cake I just bought...).
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Hello Sara. I can see that you have been frustrated by the continued use of an image that two years ago you made freely available under a Creative Commons licence, but have now changed your mind about. I also recognise that you have repeatedly tried to remove this image from the
514:. You are running into a problem that faces many experts who edit here. Knowledge (XXG) policies are responsible for the removal of the material. As an encyclopedia Knowledge (XXG) summarizes what has already been written and analyzed elsewhere, so a section such as you added to 2949:(151,831 articles) - These are articles that link to sites online where the sites themselves have gone down or changed names, and the links in the references need to be repaired. This is usually done by trying to find an archived version so that content in the references can be 1161:
If an editor finds that someone has been violating Knowledge (XXG)'s policies on copyright, it is reasonable of them to check that person's other edits to see if those also violate policy. Someone who continues to violate policy after multiple warnings is likely to be blocked.
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I have no opinion about the bottom of the dispute. I will simply note that (1) if someone asks that you leave their user talk page alone, it is courteous to do so, no matter how poorly they behave themselves; (2) when two editors disagree about the inclusion of some content,
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As it relates to a series of novels, should it have novels/series as the final word in the title? Could you please let me know if there is a convention around this? As in, are all wikipedia articles for novels meant to have those words, or simply be the title of the series?
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ends up at the correct page, so why is this a problem? If the mistake is in your Facebook profile, then you need to contact them to make the change, or just change it yourself. I can't replicate the problem because when I add LSE to a Facebook profile it comes up with
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which requires entries on your talk page and the talk page of the article. You have made a start at this but you have not finished all the requirements. Who or what entity is paying? Who is "We" in your paragraph above? .... accounts are supposed to be a single
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is available on the author's page at a university's website. Would it be acceptable to cite the journal (name, volume, date, pages, etc.) and use the URL of the full text in the citation, even though I did not get the material directly from the journal's website?
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page because that page is so large, it does not allow for detailed information. I thought that by putting it into the page for the city where there was already a small bit, it would be a simple and easy fix; but I was wrong. I will take your advice and thanks
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there was a process to submit it to the "front of the line", it would be too easy to abuse the process. Two things. though; first, your article is not submitted for review and will not be reviewed if you do not submit it. Second, in the state it is in, it will
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What would happen to my prior edits if I was to create a account. Would they change to my account name? Would I still be credited? Would I get a surprise party? Piece of cake? A platitude? No really, I would hope I still get credited. Thank you for your time.
2973:(136,302 articles) - These are articles where no other Knowledge (XXG) articles link to them, and also need to be incorporated better into the encyclopedia, but in the opposite way of the previous category. For more information on fixing these articles see 927:
assuming Knowledge (XXG) policies and guidelines are being constantly flaunted by another editor, I'd continue to raise this with them on their Talk Page until, if it got really unreasonable and I had cause to lodge a formal complaint, I would go to the
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This page has been deleted. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference. ā€¢ 16:22, 2 November 2017 Primefac (talk | contribs) deleted page Syed Hasan Askari (G11, G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of
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Not arbitrary, certainly not in this case. The user who reverted the edit knows more about copyright violations than most of the rest of us put together, and has taken the time to explain why your edits were reverted. You'll find the explanation
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If no one engages on the Talk page, how long should a question of a change stay open before you can reasonably make the change without being accused of edit warring and not gaining consensus? I have been trying to cut down the information on
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when i make a account i get the error There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again. on chrome
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The New Article Wizard states that once a new article is submitted, "Reviews can take a long time, and are done in somewhat of a random fashion." How long do these reviews take, on average? Is there any way to accelerate this process?
3037:) which I created earlier with the help of several wikipedia editors. This page has been recently deleted due to copyright issue per the message received below. (Pls see comments below). In reality, I created the FB page of 1037:
has very few watchers, but I have replied there & pinged the editor responsible for the garbled edit in 2016. I have added a section heading before your question, as it doesn't belong in the section where you placed it.
1831:. That would only be necessary if there were two articles that might have identical names. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that a movie was made with the same name. Then what you propose may be useful. Please read 1966:
template to draw someone's attention to it quickly, if necessary. If possible, please provide references for any suggestions you have, because we can only include material that is adequately supported by reliable sources.
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to submit a draft for review. If you don't have independent sources, your organization may not merit a Knowledge (XXG) article at this time. Please understand that not every organization or business merits a page here.
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I created this new account so I am not stalked by this person who has threatened to block me. I notice with others, that if you argue with these people, they will go after all your edits and find a reason to block you.
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for an explanation of what that means.) Ā In essence, you can't base an article about a person from their own published words about themselves - you need to rely on what independent, reliable sources have written about
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Please excuse this if it is a repeat, I think my response was eaten. Thank you so much for all your help, and I do understand. Would you please let me know what makes this promotional, so I can avoid in the future.
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I created this new account so I am not stalked by this person who has threatened to block me. I notice with others, that if you argue with these people, they will go after all your edits and find a reason to block
2963:(23,260 articles) - These are articles that have too few links to other Knowledge (XXG) articles in them, and need to be better incorporated into the encyclopedia as a whole. For more information on wikilinks see 2256:
In such 1 vs. 1 situations, if neither can convince the other (whatever the reason), it defaults to not including the controversial content unless consensus for inclusion can be obtained. This is usually done via
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It took me a while to figure out from various 'how to' pages that this was what I should do. But the format of my request looks different to others on the page even though I copied and pasted the request 'code'.
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says, I would advise anybody, new or old, not to create an article directly unless they are certain that they can do so well enough that it will survive immediate review (which requires understanding policies on
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The picture has been removed from the article and that is as much as we can do at Knowledge (XXG). You uploaded the image to Commons which is a separately governed project so you'll need to make your case at
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which explains how this is different from most scholarly publishing. We have many experts who edit successfully, though you need to be careful of the inherent conflict of interest in citing your own articles.
715:. Welcome to the Teahouse. A brand new user like yourself first needs to have been on Knowledge (XXG) for at least 4 days,Ā and to have made at least 10 edits before they're allowed to create a new article on 157:. Unfortunately the answer to this is not simple: you have to upload the image and then use it; and you may not upload it until you have determined that the copyright status of the image is acceptable: see 3282:
However, at this point your draft will almost certainly not be accepted, because it does not include any sources to support the content of the draft, and in order to demonstrate that the subject meets our
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is a brilliant free tool for converting smaller videos into WebM or .OGG format (and many others for that matter). For larger video files up to 2GB and to directly upload the converted file to Commons,
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happen to be in Northern California, I will personally buy you a piece of cake and praise you if you create an account and make significant positive contributions. I encourage you to do so. Good luck!
2096:ā†Just few minutes ago I created a page on NIdeas Creations and Productions Pvt Ltd. This is not an advertisement or any kind of promotion. This is simply production house page. you can check website. 1636:
Your sandbox is fine; however I see it has been nominated for deletion by another user. If you have independent sources that have in depth coverage of your organization itself, you may want to go to
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Primefacā€¬ left a message on your talk page in "ā€ŖFile:1. Prof Askari 05 09 2016.jpgā€¬". File:1. Prof Askari 05 09 2016.jpg has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons
367:, The Cite journal template accepts archive-url and archive-date. Basic syntax is listed in the commonly used parameters box with the heading 'To cite an online article that has been archived' 1061:
I have been editing here for 1.5 years. Knowledge (XXG) seems really hostile and has a really narrow interpretation of fair use to the point that it stifles editors from creating new content.
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The title of this page is: "London School of Economics and SOCIAL Science". This is wrong, because the correct name for the LSE is: "London School of Economics and POLITICAL Science".
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https://www.google.fr/search?q=%22London+School+of+Economics+and+Social+Science%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=sP7VWd2dF6SCwgLdi4rADQ
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No we don't delete questions & their answers. They will be archived in due course, but in the meantime they stay in the hope that other readers will find the answers useful. --
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Thank you both for your time. I cannot find the copyright policy you both talk about. 1) It appears like the decisions of who to block and what to delete are pretty arbitrary. 2)
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Hi. One of my edits was recently reverted because the person said "prefer the original". I don't want to make an issue of this, but if I could ask; how would you have handled it?
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however if the image isn't yours then it will be deleted, Also I don't see any article edited under this account - Using more than one account can get you blocked, Thanks, ā€“
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no one is responding to my request? A day? A week? A month? I don't want to ram a change through just to have it deleted, so I really do want to build consensus. Thanks
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how can i upload a picture of a celebrity was taken by me on wikipedia also that page was created by me and the celebrity is already satisfied and accept all what i done
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Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would ask what you mean when you say you were asked to create the draft. Certain policies may be applicable in your situation. Thanks
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Hello, IP user. At that point, you have two choices: either decide not to continue with the matter further; or open a polite discussion on the article's talk page. If you
2943:. Welcome to Knowledge (XXG) and thanks for your interest in helping out. There's usually a way for everyone to contribute, and this is no exception. Here's a few ideas: 1426:
On the left side of the page near the top under the Wiki Globe there's some links. Under tools near the bottom of the list you'll find Upload File. Or you can go here.
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Again it doesn't matter what it was.. it matter what it is now and NOW it's under a Copyright All Rights Reserved attribute, You can see for yourself if you want : -->
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I'm not yet an autoconfirmed user so I placed a technical move request (for the page Draft:BredaPhoto) on the page wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests.
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criteria, for articles of "unambiguous promotion". If you would still like to create an article about the person that meets Knowledge (XXG)'s criteria, please read
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Take down the photo and all problems will be resolved and I won't be bugging you about it any longer and i won't be editing the article to remove the link and photo
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I was being facetious but the offer of cake was very nice of you. I'm from southern BC however, with no plans to ever visit the US. Thank you for the offer though.
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in your draft. This is unacceptable; I can't check most of the sources as I'm editing from a connection with a fairly strict filter (my school) but to acheive
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Thanks for the quick feedback. I will go ahead with that approach. I used an archiving site to create a backup of the paper, but I don't see anywhere in the
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Hello I am an attorney who has not practiced copyright law, but had a law class on it in law school, and who keeps current with current US copyright law.
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Hi, I am an employee of a museum with charity status in the UK. We want to edit the wiki entry for our museum and building which is currently inaccurate -
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for more information, or feel free to come back with a follow-up question and I can give you some links to useful online conversion tools to get them into
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licensing requirements. Once uploaded you will find a link to 'use on Wiki'. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you.
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included because it is clear that the only user of this IP address is you. After your new account is four days old and has made ten edits, it will be
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OK so I see now that your draft is about the organization that you volunteer for; you will need to review the conflict of interest policy (located at
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Hopefully this helps. Feel free to ask any follow up questions. This is exactly the right place to do it, and there's usually someone around to help.
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to submit a draft for review by another editor, which can then be posted to the encyclopedia if deemed acceptable. I would first suggest reading
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The point is that Facebook uses this very page for all alumni, therefore displaying a wrong university name on our profiles. Please see here:
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and the references within it are not completely made-up, this is probably a notable topic. You would still need to convert the references to
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Before I make my draft a real thing, I was wondering if someone would look at it and let me know if I did anything wrong. Thanks so much!Ā :)
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this person is using there own broad view on copyright to delete my edits. I looked at all the other edits they make, and they block people
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Articles may make an analytic, evaluative, interpretive, or synthetic claim only if that has been published by a reliable secondary source.
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change the licensing terms. But I hope you can appreciate that because you willingly released your image under an irrevocable licence, as
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formats, which are acceptable for use here. (WebM format is actually brilliant as file sizes end up so much smaller than MPEGs.) Regards,
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Okay! Thank you so much, I was worried that would be an issue, which is why I asked before I attempted to publish outside of the sandbox.
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can be seen but not used. So it needs to be taken down, The photo link itself shows that's its now under All rights reserved via flickr.
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As I indicated, it needs independent reliable sources that indicate how the organization is notable per guidelines, please see them at
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Someone told me that you can't be a paid employee of an organisation to edit their page on Knowledge (XXG) - is that true? Many thanks
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You could also consider contributing to a Knowledge (XXG) in a language you are more familiar with, if you are not already doing so,
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to. We don't delete redirects helping our readers just because external sites may use them inapproriately, but I have tagged it with
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I actually tried to correct the title of this LSE page myself, however I could not do so because it is an automatic "redirect" page.
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Thanks for those pages and how long should I leave the question of changes open on the Talk page before I try to make a change,
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If there are errors in the museum's article, the best thing to do in your situation would be to leave a message on the article's
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Deleting the entire "Products and Services" section would be a major improvement to the draft, making it look less promotional.
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needs to have references to secondary sources that analyze already published material, not the primary papers themselves. See
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Hi! I'm Teenager16. I'm very new to Knowledge (XXG). I want to learn how to edit things in Knowledge (XXG) please. Thank you!
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Short summary says it all. Where's the SEND button? I find it very difficult to understand the various procedures required.
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Knowledge (XXG)-compatible license means anyone, anywhere can reuse it, not just that it will be posted on Knowledge (XXG).
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consensus (from other editors) before it being added; (3) if participation to a discussion is lacking, you may request a
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a warning on your talk page, what they're really leaving you is hopefully several links to our site policies (like our
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Knowledge (XXG) requires. Even if the text was not copyrighted, the article would still have been deleted under the
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the edit summaries. I wrote most of those 32,000 bytes and I would like to see them appear in the article history.
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the editor who reverted it, they will probably see your posting and should come and discuss it with you. Please see
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I hope you don't mind, but I've added some colons to indent your reply above. Sorry I can't send you another cake.
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There are several section with no references. Providing citations for them (on the talk page) would help. Regards,
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I want to help Knowledge (XXG), but my knowledge of English grammar is limited. What can I do to help nonetheless?
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Is wikipedia currently friendly to people who want to create articles or to people who want to delete articles?
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a useful read before reposting the article. Do not hesitate to ask follow-up questions if something is unclear.
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I would add that your sandbox is not immune from certain speedy deletion criteria, such as the promotional one.
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be accepted. It reads in a very promotional manner, which violates an important policy of Knowledge (XXG),
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revert. It's the outright "I don't like it". Do you guys just walk if you can't convince the person?
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to create a draft. As you appear to be affiliated with the professor, please review our policies on
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As I sought information for a proposed Knowledge (XXG) article, I found a relevant article from an
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I just want confirmation that my request is correctly formatted and will be picked up by someone.
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therefore it is not in violation of copyright. Requesting to restore the page Syed Hasan Askari (
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Thank you. I don't want this to devolve into edit warring and I pulled the information for the
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If we can be of further assistance at the Teahouse, feel free to let us know. Happy editing! ā€“
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Thanks for the information. I couldn't find the previous history of my edits. Now I can.
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edit, so nobody is going to stop you from editing any page, but it's true that not everyone
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is perfectly acceptable if an equal or better free reference is not available. I agree with
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in what you, or I, or any other random person on the Internet, know about a subject, it is
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and especially the essential guidance on what you must and must not do when writing about
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You are reminded again that you are not permitted to edit here without withdrawing the
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Need advice on how to remove alerts from "John Langeloth Loeb Jr." Knowledge (XXG) page
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Changes to article and consensus, how long should a discussion stay open on Talk page?
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Thank you everybody for your time. I'm seeing if there's anything I can do. Have fun.
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has been created I need help to develop content and advise on what next. Thank you.
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to determine if he meets our notability criteria first. If he does, you can use the
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subject. As this is an encyclopaedia, every article has to be on a subject deemed '
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belongs to me alone. When I said "We" I was referring to myself and my colleague,
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You could always ask for a history merge, but it is very unlikely to be granted.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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in order to directly create a new article. However, you should be able to use
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are not permitted to edit Knowledge (XXG) until such threats are withdrawn. -
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Please also note that you should not use two accounts to edit in tandem. (See
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A page I created some time ago, is called: Dr Pimms, Intermillennial Sleuth.
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Ariconte. Thanks for your guidance and questions. My Knowledge (XXG) account
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Yes and no. Attribution should be included, but what you are suggesting (a
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Attribution to your (and others') edit has been provided in the usual way:
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Journal article can be written for home. I keep a journal article for the
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Also, you should be aware that (ideally) we only have articles about "
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Error on the title of the LSE redirect page: "political", not "social"
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Well, by creating another account and using it to evade scrutiny, you
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On a more serious subject (at least for me); I have always used this
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So could someone please correct this wrong "Social Science" page?
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c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Dapper Day Fall 2015 all women.jpg
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Writing an article about yourself is full of huge pitfalls, and is
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Well, actually, if the article you intended to post is similar to
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I am not withdrawing it till my photo gets taken down and removed.
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Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor 50.64.119.38. There will be no
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Hi! I joined up because I was asked if I could create this item (
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how can i upload a picture of a celebrity was taken by me on wiki
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to create a draft and work there. I suggest you start by reading
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How do you add a person to Knowledge (XXG)? Can one add oneself?
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Also, is the sandbox not the appropriate place to make a draft?
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by emailĀ (that incident is absolutely not one of those cases).
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still has the page history, and serves to provide attribution.
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to learn more about how to include references in your draft.
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There is an error in the title of this Knowledge (XXG) page:
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edit every page. The community's consensus, explained in the
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for guidance on creating a Knowledge (XXG) article. Thanks.
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What the heck - might as well post the useful links anyway!
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option to put an image (my screen print was not accepted).
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writing on. To write about another person, you should read
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https://en.wikipedia.org/Dr_Pimms,_Intermillennial_Sleuth
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Hope this helps, and again, welcome to Knowledge (XXG)!
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is permanent (even if the article is behind a paywall).
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Kindly assist in restoring the page Syed Hasan Askari (
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Draft:Double Bass by Domenico Montagnana, Venice, 1747
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no matter how long ago they last said they opposed it.
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Hi, Knowledge (XXG) is the encyclopaedia that anyone
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to handle a matter privately, you should contact the
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Is there anyone that I can appeal this decision too?
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Is there anyone that I can appeal this decision too?
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Is it possible to accelerate the review of new page?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/User:JessicaZahurak/sandbox
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Thank you both. I am very glad I asked first.Ā :) --
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