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I am nominating this article for A-Class review. Param Vir Chakra (PVC) is India's highest military decoration awarded for the displaying distinguished acts of valour during wartime. PVC is equivalent to the Medal of Honor in the United States and the
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The first paragraph in the history section would benefit from further context. For example, what were the EIC gold medals and why were they awarded? Also, it is worth noting that that
Indians were not eligible for the VC until 1911, ostensibly as Indian personnel could avail themselves of the
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I understand that some of the above may reflect a lack of available sources. But as it currently stands, the article at least does not appear to satisfy A2 for comprehensiveness or A4 for writing quality. Just a suggestion, but it may be worth having a look at how the articles on the
1126:"The Param Vir Chakra (PVC) is India's highest military decoration awarded for displaying distinguished acts of valour during wartime" - I think you need a comma after "decoration", to make clear that the two elements of the definition are distinct.
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539:. Hi Krishna, thanks for letting me know. I will have limited internet access for the next fortnight while I am overseas, so unfortunately it may be some time before I can review the changes, sorry. Cheers,
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Indian personnel were also still eligible for the IOM and IDSM during the First World War (this is not clear from the article; it implies the Indian military simply made use of the
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Unless I am missing something, the article no longer seems to note that award of the PVC can be cancelled. This is something perhaps worth including, with details on what would cause a cancellation.
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In the history section it jumps from the First World War to post independence. Suggest mentioning that the system that existed during the First World War continued through the second.
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The regulations section should probably come just after "History", and it may even be worth combining the regulations with design as there is some cross-over between the two.
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As the image is the primary representation of the subject, is there any other way to make it allowable? How about NFCC? Regards,
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I have made the required changes, please have a look. Regarding the sources, Topyaps and Factly can be trusted based on
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Made the required corrections. I've found a new source, and added all the regulations of establishment. Regards,
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The article has been significantly improve in terms of content, and also has been cop-edited by GOCE. --Regards,
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Well done on expanding and reshaping this article into the comprehensive and interesting one it is now. Cheers,
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Yes, just waiting for Rupert's points to be addressed before I give this one another pass. Cheers,
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Greetings Maria, thanks for the review. The tag applies to the medal. Removed the ribbon. Regards,
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Hi Rupert, thanks for ping. I'll to get to these in a day or two. Regards,
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Thanks for the comments, fixed the issues. Please have a look. Regards,
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G'day, Krishna, I took a quick look and have a couple of suggestions:
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are written" – quote marks, rather than italics, should be used here.
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I have made the required changes, please have a look. Regards,
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So that presents a problem with regards to using it here...
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Thanks for sharing this, added it to the article. Regards,
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Thanks for the comments, I have made the changes. Regards,
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Replaced the image with fair use equivalent. Regards,
1269:This article looks good and the queries are minor.
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