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titles are (correctly) in italics in the References section, and with years of publication when those mean very little in the ever-evolving online world. I wouldn't withhold support over this but presentation-wise and for ease of access (click once) I think it’d be preferable to use the news and web citation templates inline, and just retain Harv cites for the book refs. Cheers,
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I've been using this sfn/harvid combination for sources for years, including plenty of FAs, and no-one has ever mentioned it before. With websites the short citation indicates when the website was accessed without having to look at the long citation. I've italicised the newspaper citation, which was
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Okay, the formatting isn’t so odd when I see we’re using Harv... ;-) I think that’s probably better restricted to citing books, where your identifier is author and year of publication – it does seem a bit strange to be citing websites and newspapers with titles in standard case, when those same
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Not quite - since the engravings are not covered by FOP, we need to include an explicit tag indicating that they are out of copyright due to age. In theory we could quibble over whether the photographer has any copyright claim at all, but I'm not too fussed about that piece.
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Sources look okay reliability-wise (have to admit I'm not sure entirely sure about Lock at first glance but it's not being used to cite anything controversial); the formatting of some refs looks a bit odd to me though, and I might just have a go at them
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Well you can only go with what's available -- if you've checked them as well as the other sources you've employed then I think you've done as much as can be expected. I note that the article is almost 1kb larger than when I first looked anyway. Cheers,
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Given the overall length of the article, I wonder if the lead could be made a little more succinct; perhaps the mention of joining the battlion 2 weeks before Gallipoli and covering force could be removed along with the 2nd sentence of the 2nd para
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Phillip Davey was a South Australian soldier who was awarded both the Victoria Cross and the Military Medal for his gallantry during World War I. The article includes all information from all unique sources I have been able to locate, including the
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I imagine so, his records say "Overseas Training Brigade", I know that there was a training battalion in the UK for each infantry brigade at one point, but they are usually numbered. I've never come across this brigade
873:. There is a mention of a daughter, but I've checked BDM records, and there aren't any children registered against him, just his own birth and the marriage. I think this addresses the last of the outstanding comments. 850:
Nothing in Macklin. To be fair, Davey isn't among those who reached officer rank or had a notable career after the war, so it is not terribly surprising that there isn't more on him. Just waiting for Staunton.
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regarding the part where Davey embarks for France, I wonder if it should be clarified here that the AIF's infantry divisions had been transferred to the European front after the end of the Gallipoli campaign?
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Given the dates, from my own knowledge I'd say almost certainly Morphettville (where the original 10th Battalion trained) then the last couple of months at the Mitcham camp, but his records don't specify.
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and his battalion history. It successfully went through GAN last year. He is the second South Australian VC recipient I have brought to ACR, with the eventual aim of getting all of them to FA.
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I considered the headstone to be a sculpture that required a degree of artistic craftsmanship (the engraving etc), but I'm not wedded to it (the tag that is). Regards,
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good luck with improving all of the South Australian VC recipient bios, a very worthy project, indeed! In regards to this article I have the following suggestions:
481:: I'm not sure on what basis you are suggesting this pic needs a FoP tag? I don't think a gravestone engraving qualifies as a work of art. Please advise. Cheers, 545:, engravings aren't covered by FoP in Australia. If there are thousands of similar stones, I would guess those engravings are both derivative works? 17: 634:
I've added a PD-AustraliaGov for the Rising Sun badge and a PD-UKGov for the Victoria Cross, along with some explanations. Does that do the trick?
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Despite its age, Lock is still the go-to history of the 10th. Esp for bios of important characters and day-by-day movements of the battalion.
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Lead: the first sentence of the 2nd para has two "re-", which I find a little jarring. Perhaps the second could be replaced with "returned"?
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action in the lull between the defeat of the German Spring Offensive and the Allied Hundred Days offensive (see Les Carlyon,
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Suggest mentioning Davey's siblings in the Early life section: he had at least three brothers, I believe (per Les Carlyon's
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Fair enough, I wouldn't have thought so, given there are thousands of virtually identical gravestones in the AIF Cemetery.
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Nicely done but it does seem a little brief compared to some other A-Class bios on VCs... Did we check Macklin's
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the body of the article doesn't seem to specify any named battles that he fought in while on the Western Front
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an oversight. Thanks for taking a look, Ian! I'll update this when I lay eyes on Macklin and Staunton.
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seems a litle repetitious: "...his unit was in a reserve area, returning to his unit..." (his unit x 2)
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Perhps it is a style thing for you, but no specific battles listed in the infobox, just World War I?
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Otherwise pretty happy with prose after copyediting, but let me know any concerns there.
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Can something about the presentation ceremony for the VC be added? I found this
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I wonder if it is know where Davey did his basic training before embarkation?
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at Trove, but there is probably a more informative one that could be found.
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Concur with Zawed that image licensing seems problem-free.
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They would be derivative works of an early version of the
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slightly inconsistent: "World War I" and "First World War"
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Nice find, added. I couldn't find anything more detailed.
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Added campaigns, didn't want to make it a shopping list.
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Image tags look OK to me (not that I'm an expert, mind)
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Cheers, 869:Nothing new in Staunton either, 729:the action around Merris was a 722:pulled some detail out of Lock. 72:« Return to A-Class review list 1: 773:I think the image is now ok, 378:four brothers in fact, added. 362:07:35, 24 February 2018 (UTC) 322:08:39, 24 February 2018 (UTC) 303:10:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC) 195:03:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC) 843:Have ordered them to check. 1019: 902:07:18, 17 March 2018 (UTC) 883:05:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC) 805:08:19, 12 March 2018 (UTC) 787:23:45, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 765:01:47, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 674:13:21, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 644:05:23, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 611:04:19, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 580:03:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 555:02:04, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 523:01:47, 11 March 2018 (UTC) 308:Thanks for taking a look, 67:01:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC) 988:05:54, 8 March 2018 (UTC) 973:21:35, 7 March 2018 (UTC) 957:07:15, 7 March 2018 (UTC) 861:05:45, 9 March 2018 (UTC) 505:10:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC) 491:10:31, 9 March 2018 (UTC) 336:02:08, 3 March 2018 (UTC) 282:It is the online version. 1000:Please do not modify it. 751:Thanks for your review, 36:Please do not modify it. 570:. 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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history
Assessment
Cinderella157
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MilHistBot
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Phillip Davey
Instructions for nominators and reviewers
Peacemaker67
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Phillip Davey
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history
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watch
logs
Featured article candidates/Phillip Davey/archive1
Analysis
Citation bot
External links
Peacemaker67
click to talk to me
03:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
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Zawed
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10:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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