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Project members to seek out a related bottle of wine to enjoy in their own time and include a comment or review that will be published in the newsletter. The purpose of this feature will be to share our enjoyment of
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Well, I know that there are about 4-5 right answers on this point in terms of wine books, but I'm going to go out of the way to sing the praises of national and regional wine board Web sites. Although the surface layers usually have empty, promotional language and meaningless Flash videos, I've found
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So, I guess what I'd like to see is more interactions between the two projects. Could we use dual-licensing to make transitioning text and images between the two projects easier? What about more inter-linking? Vinismo uses the
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license, which is very similar
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Vinismo whenever I drink a bottle of wine. Unlike Knowledge (XXG), Vinismo has articles on each and every bottle of wine we can find -- each year of each wine by each winery in the world. So that means that every time I drink a bottle of wine, I've got
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Vinismo was to give myself a chance to learn more about wines from remote places, and to go into other regions that I thought I knew about already in more depth. I think that's one of the great things about wikis: it gives us a chance to teach each other. And I've
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Since then, I've had a casual interest in wines, but I'd never been much of a connoisseur and had mostly bought by price. I think like a lot of people I'd ceded knowledge of wines to a select priesthood. We don't want to know more about wines because we think you have to be a well-trained expert just
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I think probably the big thing for me would be to see more collaboration between
Vinistos and Wiki Winos. I think that the two projects have a great complementary synergy: because WikiProject Wine is part of Knowledge (XXG), it shares the authority of the project as a whole. But I think that because
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Anyways, my wife brought home a bottle of dep wine late at night when the SAQ was closed, and I got real angry. "We can't have dep wine in the house! C'mon! I'm a wine guy now!" My wife wisely pointed out that she was the only one who'd see the bottle, but I burst out, "What if the neighbours see it
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American history and American geography. It's probably been the work that I've enjoyed most out of the encyclopedia. But I think the greatest part of my work here is piecemeal -- I correct grammar, spelling, and clumsy constructions when I see them. A few
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I like to think about the life of wine. How it's a living thing. I like to think about what was going on the year the grapes were growing; how the sun was shining; if it rained. I like to think about all the people who tended and picked the grapes. And if it's an old wine, how many of them must be
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Vinismo, not on Knowledge (XXG). But the type of articles that I find most interesting are geographical ones -- articles for wines of a particular country or region. It might be an American's fascination with the mysterious foreign concept of
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some amazingly deep, complex statistics about wine production in different countries on their sites. Once you start digging into the parts of the site that are only for statisticians and wine importers, you can get some real nuggets of data that are very useful.
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on wine and wines, we can be a little more focused. Our requirements for notability are nowhere near as high as
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My Greek grandfather was a home winemaker, using grapes he'd grown in his own backyard. His wine was pretty awful, but as a kid I thought it was pretty impressive that he could take this fruit from the garden and make it into something to drink at the
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this week, and I'm looking forward to digging into their domestically available wines. I think there's a whole lot there -- people like to turn up their noses at Argentinian wine, but I think there's lots to discover in that
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1002:, but I actually enjoy Chardonnay, even when it's really oaked up. I like "easy" wines, if only because they make people think a bit about what they're drinking. I think when people take that first step and say, "I
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great wine and to encourage members to try new things in a forum that will help keep POV separate and out of the article. Also in each issue will be an announcement of the next selection in the
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