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there's no reason to presume the average user is going to behind the W3 Schools visitor group as simply a different group of visitors with different usage profile. And as I've mentioned before, what about those with SDTV, which in the case of NTSC will likely be using a resolution of 720x480 or 720x576 for PAL, or in some cases 640x480 or similar (those using computers sometimes choose this resolution depending on various things). All in all, I don't see any reason to abandon 640x480 yet, particularly since it hasn't been established it's going to harm anything and instead seems to be more something of convience for designers so they don't have to bother to make sure their designs work properly. This is supposed to be wikipedia and we are supposed to be accessible to all users, not simply those who have large resolution screens. And particularly not based on an extremely flawed use of statistics. BTW< for those saying, I don't know many people using 640x480 well nor do I. But I don't know many poor people in China, India or Africa either, do you? P.S. Remember there are also those using 800x600 who don't have a full screen window to consider. Even if you're using 1024x768 it's easily possible your horizontal width is going to be under 800 in some instances

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and how we review things, fix things up, and plenty of the little things we do, but we should keep in mind that for the most part, the Main Page is a content page, and that we don't need to explicitly separate what we do into inward-facing and outward-facing. Ideally, it should be obvious to everyone that Knowledge (XXG) is not complete, and that we're trying to improve every single article we have, and that we're open to everyone to join in and help, while simultaneously providing primarily the content that the Main Page is expected to provide based on its historical function. {{

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640x480 is approaching zero. If the average Internet user is assumed to be two years behind W3 Schools visitors, then <1% of average users had 640x480 by January 2007. Following that trend, let's assume that about 0.5% to 0.8% still use 640x480. Out of 1,000,000 people, this is 5,000 – 8,000 who might see something wonky.

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The left-most bar is not terribly intuitive in its organization or friendly for new users. If we eliminated this, we could have more width to design the main page, as well as being able to highlight the search box more effectively. Note that the main wikipedia.org page has a design that is radically

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I can pat my own back. Most of you probably can, too. Editors have never had a problem with their edits going unnoticed outside of the community, and within the community we can congratulate users "behind the scenes" with barnstars and their ilk. Maybe we should start encouraging the use of barnstars

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As I mention above, I think that we should mention Wikinews a little more strongly; also regardless of whether the amount of content is increased, decreased, or maintained as is, we should be more clear that we are merely documenting current events (id est, events "in the news") rather than providing

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No, we don't. With well thought out coding, we can support this group forever. my websites mostly support screens half as wide as this, not because I went out of my way to, but because they were designed to scale well. So, yes the idea of requiring tens of thousands of users to deal with a horizontal

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The links should also be overhauled. Support for not including a second searchbox in the page content, and not having a section for language links in addition to the sidebar. General support for keeping Today's Features Article, In The News, On This Day, Did You Know? and Today's Featured Picture the

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The current colours fall nicely into a general palette of slightly subdued shades of whatever colour one wants; I'd suggest that this doesn't need to be changed as it fits with our general style, but there's little reason to either specifically change it or not change it. If a Main Page design looks

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I don't strongly oppose having less, but I strongly oppose having more; Knowledge (XXG) is not for breaking news and we should not encourage that, though Knowledge (XXG) can certainly have articles on subjects as the news breaks via other sources. It would also be desirable to point to Wikinews more

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At least for the "list of other Wikipedias" being at both the bottom and in the left navbar. How about we don't show any at the bottom, and on the left navbar we only show the top 25 (based on speakers of the language), and at the bottom of those 25, in bold, have a link to the complete list (nicked

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General opposition to the following proposals: Two sections: Encyclopedia & project/community, Tabs, Using Show/Hide for sections, Including Today's Featured Portal, Including Featured List, Including Featured Sound, Including Featured Topic, Including Featured Editor, Including Today's Quote or

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The consensus seems to be that we can't place this higher on the page because then it will load ahead of text, and for users with slow connections this is a problem. I agree with this. Is there some sort of code we can put in that determines what should be loaded first? Some websites I have visited

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Personally, I think that it would be desirable to have some indication of the community and how one can get involved with Knowledge (XXG), but a split between "Encyclopedia" and "Project / community" sections isn't desirable. It would be good to indicate more that Knowledge (XXG) is simple to help,

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from W3 Schools can't be used accurately, since that information is based on visitors to W3 Schools, a website for web technologies. Presumably people interested in web technologies have slightly better computers than the average Internet/Wikipedia visitor. However, the clear trend is that use of

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at that site says presumably "the numbers are rather too high", because it counts hits from "wiki bots, scripts, views of editors/patrollers and probably also web crawlers (spiders) as well as spammers and defective scripts" and "page reloads/refreshes"—but there isn't an estimate of how much too

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Support for a two column view, with some consideration to users with 640x480 resolution and mobile resolutions. Some support for keeping and modifying the welcome banner, along with some mixed support for including an "About Knowledge (XXG)" section. Some support for portal icons and color scheme

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Well we really have no way of knowing how far behind the 'average' visitor is. It's resonable to presume there will be a proportion of internet users who are always quite far behind the W3 Schools visitors, e.g. those from developing countries. And the W3 Schools audience in a specific audience,

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I just had a look at today's "did you know"s and I was left pretty cold. But I think today was a bad one, I've sometimes been quite impressed by them. I think concentrating on quality rather than quantity might be a good idea here. Take a look at de.wikipedia.org for how it should be done.

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Having employed this on a local wiki at one point, it isn't real useful unless and can be set as cookies. However, adding to the site .js files for all of one page is a little unneeded, and I don't know if cookies would even work, as I don't know if they could be designed to

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In response to Modest Genius and Gary King: The existence of other Wikipedias does not imply there is an awareness of those other Wikipedias. There is some chance that people are unaware of a Knowledge (XXG) in their native language; more likely is that they don't know the

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Currently the least useful of the 'content' sections. We've reached the stage where the majority of new articles aren't interesting for the casual reader, so showcasing them on the main page (at least at the current rate/general interest threshold) isn't exciting anybody

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Calliopejen1 above says it pretty well, though I think that we should avoid a long, cluttering explanation if possible, and it isn't specifically our place to "encourage media literacy" directly, though we can certainly point users that way through explanation.

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It's a good idea to check for duplication and possible confusions, but where a duplication would probably help an end-user it's desirable. Certainly there are a number of links which should be updated or removed, and other, more-useful ones which could be added.

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Takes up about half the space horizontally and vertically on my 19" monitor at 1440×900, yet consistently fails to generate interest for me. Seeing a large block of text (one single paragraph!) is not engaging. Summaries should be more terse and precise. —

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This survey tells us nothing about whether we should include featured sounds as part of the current TFP, perhaps with a rename, which appears to be what featured sound supporters are suggesting since they agree we don't have enough featured sounds

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No way, that's for internal consumption. It's like patients reading the notice board a hospital. Oh, doctors have to park in lot B for the next week, kittens to a good home, the asbestos inspectors will be here on Tuesday. No good can come of it.

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The statistics used to demonstrate low usage are flawed, there are other users like those of SDTVs to consider and I have seen no good reason to abandon 640x480 other then it being easier for designers. (See my comment below for more details)

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done, and the results indicated that certain areas of the page perform better for clicks than others. So the question is supposed to be something like: Do we want to funnel readers through portals by making them more appealing to click on?

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good on most screens, it probably works well enough. The only suggestion I have is that it should be ensured that colour setups do not specifically disadvantage either the colour-blind (any variety) or people using greyscale monitors. {{

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This has been suggested on both this talk page and the talk page for the main page itself (as of 2008-08-12). I'm currently neutral about this but think it should get a wider airing, considering several people have recommended this.

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And what happens if our "featured editor" is uncivil to people coming by his/her talkpage? Or what if people don't want to be featured editors because of the awful harassment they receive? Bad idea for many reasons.

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The survey has been completed, and a general summary is available. For details on each proposal, please see the relevant section. These should be used as a rough guideline when approaching a new main page design.

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in the past load the text first, then load the images (unless I am imagining this). Also, Knowledge (XXG) itself loads all content first, then loads the user information at the top last (for logged in users). —

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While it's a nice idea, the reality is that most people don't care about lists. Lists are merely reference material that may be useful and usually aren't interesting in and of themselves. While admittedly

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JavaScript (which is necessary for show/hide links to work) should not be necessary, and the functionality it adds is regardless minimal without a corresponding cookie system to remember the settings. {{

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I strongly oppose this, partly because I have recently seen criticism of Knowledge (XXG) on CCnet which describes it as a "social networking site". We don't want to encourage this impression. --

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Where this does not severely compromise the design of the page, this is quite desirable—it also meshes well with supporting mobile devices which typically have such low screen resolutions. {{

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Featured topics are 'series' of Featured/Good articles all on one area. For example, Solar System is a featured topic, which contains several FAs and GAs on the individual planets, Sun etc.

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Works well at the moment, and we need to be extremely careful about using too many colours. Any designer will tell you 3 or 4 is the ideal. Furthermore, we don't want to distract from the

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I don't think portals are useful to many readers, and they certainly aren't catchy like our little facts. I think their presence on the main page should be minimized as much as possible.

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The font size is about the same as most websites. Anyone who finds it too small or too big will probably have the same problem everywhere else, and can change their browser settings. —

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Quotes are usually silly, empty soundbites, given validity only because a famous person said them. The Spanish Knowledge (XXG) has them, and it detracts a bit from the experience.

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Only minor changes. Why are TFA/DYK the same green, ITN/OTD the same blue-ish, and TFP lavender? Either have a different color for each, or they should all be the same. —

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Many people coming to Knowledge (XXG) still don't understand what it is (and therefore how to use it). We should be encouraging a bit of media literacy among our readers.

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While it might be nice to make this take up less space, it would be troublesome for things like panoramas, for which low-width thumbnails are particularly useless. {{

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Today's Motto, Including The Signpost, Having a section of undeveloped articles ("You can help!"), Remove left-most standard sidebar from main page, Centering text.

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I think that Knowledge (XXG) is popular enough for people to have an idea of what it is, although for this particular question, I am willing to change my stance.

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Twas Now makes a good point, but as one of the primary features of the Main Page, I'd suggest that it should stay, for the most part, in its current state. {{

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I say keep colors to a minimum (sounds grave I know). Knowledge (XXG) has a natural scheme (for those who use monobook) and I think we should stick to that.

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This just seems to me like something we'll keep putting off until some jerk author or band releases a work called "Main Page" and forces us to change it ;)

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Don't see how you can reduce it and still retain the ability to use landscape images. And given the standard of captions, you probably don't want any more

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At some point we are going to have to alienate the dwindling 640×480 group. At what point does it become preferential? When there are 5,000? 500? 10? 1? —

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Should be smaller width, as there is a lot of whitespace, especially when the picture stretches the box a lot vertically and there is not a lot of text.

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I'd say don't try to target a specific news volume, just report a few stories that we have good content on, and that is of near-universal interest. --

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Well, we still haven't decided what space we want to put it in: Knowledge (XXG) space, Portal space, etc. so we should decide before doing anything.

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Conceptually, this is a good idea. As long as anyone who types in "en.wikipedia.org" will reach the main page wherever we put it, I support this. --

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I don't really think they look good at all - quite the contrary. I think they look quite ugly. I like seeing full page of content instead of tabs. --

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Tabs are great in software options pages. They're a rubbish piece of obfuscation when it comes to content, and that includes the wikipedia main page

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oppose. Banner: yes. Section heads: tolerable. Body text and lists: No, no, no. It seriously impedes reading to have to re-anchor on each line..

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Again, seems to be working quite well now. Of course it could be better, but I think that's something for ITN not the main page itself to handle

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A simpler welcome banner is generally a good thing, though my support is not exclusive of the status quo nor of the possibility of expansion. {{

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Very bad idea, partly for the reasons given, but also related to my comment above about the perception of WP as a social networking site. --

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Quotations seem a little more encyclopedic, and lots of well known phrases/mottos are lifted straight out of major works of literature. --

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I think the main page should mirror the natural appearance of the rest of Knowledge (XXG) (the articles). The portal icons are too busy.

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Because grandma still uses an old computer, and will not let me buy her a new one. Also because higher resolutions only enable clutter.

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This is not a good idea. They are appropriate in some cases, but not for the Main Page which should be a simple portal to the world.

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As just seemingly links to most people, there would need to be wording for the topics, and then would take up quite a lot of space.

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through the featured portals, one each week? It's not as if most people read the Main Page like a newspaper and would get bored. --

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I think this idea is very good, though it shouldn't necessarily mean that we need to split the section or increase its size. {{

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Whilst the specific topics could be improved, particularly in terms of breadth and date coverage, the space allocated is good

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Keep it how it is (i.e. upper right corner). Moving it any farther down would reduce the possibility of people seeing it. --

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Not sure what this section is asking about? Especially as the diff relates to a specific proposal, not the current main page

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Once again I don't think we really have that many great sounds. Furthermore many are fair use clips of copyrighted works --

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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That would require two sidebars - one for the Main Page and one for everything else. That's not the best result --

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A link to the full list of languages is fair enough; a good idea even. But listing various 'top' languages isn't.

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I like it now. I think the size and prominence is appropriate. Tow or three shorter paragraphs might scan easier.

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Pointless, and we'd soon go through all the decent, well maintained portals, unless we had each one up for weeks

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I'm looking at the French wikipedia page and it looks longer than ours (except for the 2.5 mil articles thing).

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Tighten up inclusion criteria, and update less frequently than every 6 hours (perhaps every 8 or every 12). —

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I agree. It is a good idea. Perhaps splitting DYK with newly created articles and newly promoted articles? --

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more often? I also think that having a "featured editor" might generate some unwanted types of behavior. —

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high. Let's take a guess that 10% are real people, so an average of 1,000,000 people see this page per day.

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Fully center the intro banner (see comment below), rather than center it, but place it off to the side. —

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solutions that did not require subpages or JavaScript, but as is tabs aren't a good idea in my opinion. {{

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I'm not sure if the search bar would be as cluttering as said in discussions but I could go either way. (

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Not enough of these at present, and they can be highlighted by featuring the individual articles anyway

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I don't think this is necessary or desirable, and it brings with it other annoying technical issues. {{

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I want to support this, but first I'd like to make an estimate about how many users could be affected.

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Cut it out entirely. If someone wanted another language, they would have selected it on wikipedia.org

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More interesting stuff. Windows Vista Starter Edition and Windows XP Starter Edition are limited to a

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I missed the survey, I'm sorry to say. I'd just like to add that I support all the proposals except:

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Two is sufficient. Counting the sidebar there are actually three. Any more is cramped and cluttered.

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Does this mean to say that you think the portal links should be moved lower or removed altogether? --

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It occurs to me that this type of content would be more suitable to be featured on the Main Page of

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Add any general comments you have regarding this survey (but unrelated to the above sections) here.

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welcome banner aren't maintained well. Let's try to improve those before putting other portals up.

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I know not many people use it, but there is no need to make the site unusable for these people --

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includes many different wikis with different layouts (such as for right-to-left languages like

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Three looks awful, particularly if you don't have a maximised browser on a widescreen monitor

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A good idea. The main page is too crammed with information right now, and there are not clear

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I don't think we could come up with enough mottos (and even if we could, I think it would be

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This skin element that frames all wikipedia pages should be consistant on the landing page.

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Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (technical) § Proposal: Move main page to a different namespace

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code for the language they want, so a link to the complete list is absolutely necessary. —

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I'm just glad I thought of it. Maybe you might support it in the Community section then? --

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Bad idea, but like Modest Genius said, maybe there could be a section in the Signpost. --

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So any new page should have the same or similar formatting values as the existing page? --

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Does support for such a resolution mean sacrificing parts of the design? If so, I oppose.

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This will only become more common as mobile internet, palmtops etc become more widespread

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It always struck me as odd to find a news feed here. Not what I use Knowledge (XXG) for.

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Ain't broke, don't fix, but then you could say that about the entire main page redesign

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As said above, they would have already gone to that language if they really wanted it.

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Visual clutter, not remembered across sessions (no cookie action), javascript bad. --

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the placement of this template.

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Not sure that Knowledge (XXG) is the right project for a main page quote of the day.

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Speaking of revamping the Main Page, ITN was somewhat revamped based on proposals at

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Modest Genius says it best; tabs are undesirable. I would potentially be open to tab-

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Add my support to this idea, without increasing the overall length of the section.

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Does not aid navigation. Resist the temptation to use all the crayons in the box.

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This adds two things ours does not: handles the issue of inter-language wikilinks

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As mentioned elsewhere in this survey, the main page is for readers not editors.

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I kind of like them, but I think more clearer and obvious icons should be used.

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Doesn't look consistent, and we should be using less space on portals, not more

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The main page does not belong in the mainspace. It belongs in the portal space!

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Prominent link(s), not section. Main page should be a landing pad for readers.

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Moving the Main Page to different namespace such as Portal:Knowledge (XXG) has

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am occasionally fascinated by esoteric references like for example my copy of

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The proposal is too nonspecific to assess. Add/delete what content/functions?

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Change it to what? Resist the temptation to use all the crayons in the box.

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Pointless, adds more unnecessary links to the page and relies on JavaScript

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to discern which parts are for content and which are for community. I think

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It's fine. If people want larger text, they should modify their browser.

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It's already there on the banner. Anything more would clutter the page. -

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I don't care much for tabs in general, but the examples that had only an

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Bad idea for so many reasons - most of which have been listed above. --

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Strongly oppose. Maybe in the Signpost, certainly not on the main page

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The Main Page isn't an article - it's really a portal, so it should be

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I think this may attract more attention to the portals if we do this.

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Two columns work well, but three look a bit cramped even at 1280x800.

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is clever. It gives a "Knowledge (XXG)-like" explanation of itself. (

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different from normal article pages, and it hasn't confused anyone.

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Leave it as is. Stick with standards - they exist for a reason. --

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changes, strong opposition to changing default font and font size.

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The small ones are fine, but Nat/Gamma's take up too much space. —

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Trying to do more is starting to result in too many lame stories --

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.

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Completely unnecessary. Probably more appropriate for Wikiquotes.

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I like Modest Genius' idea to include them occasionally as TFA. —

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Technically complicated (afaik), less general interest topics. --

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We don't need an actual spotlight to shine on individual editors

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Pro bug catcher

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Pro bug catcher

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They are not too content-oriented, at least not as much as FAs.

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work for the main page and not every other collapsible table. --

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Sure, but perhaps a bit differently from the original proposal.

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keeping the layout consistant is more friendly for new users --

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Definitely. Duplicate links with different names are nasty. --

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Having a section for language links in addition to the sidebar

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Same or even a little more. Good browsing for notable topics.

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The given example looks fine (well besides the green text) --

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/88wolfmaster

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Oppose unless it is seven words or less within the masthead.

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Five Fifteen

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Hereford (2)

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/CRGreathouse

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Blackhole77

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is overtabbed, though, and is divided rather arbitrarily. —

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No, I'm talking about the text alignment inside the boxes.

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At least, I would not like to see any major color changes.

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Polishname

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Scottydude

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I'd also like to note that even some of the portals in the

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Polishname

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Having a section of undeveloped articles ("You can help!")

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Nat/Gamma

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Gnangarra

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Wintran 2

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Having a section of undeveloped articles ("You can help!")

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/RichardF2

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/RichardF2

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/RichardF2

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We don't have that many portals that are all that great --

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It's good now. Not too much whitespace, great width, etc.

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Mangler13

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Knowledge (XXG):2008_main_page_redesign_proposal/RichardF2

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Most people come to Knowledge (XXG) for the encyclopedia.

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If people want community, they can go to the village pump

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Pretzels

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cut down how many we have in the sidebar, as I suggested

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This is the main thing that the main page has to offer --

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/RichardF

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Kpalion

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Knowledge (XXG):2008 main page redesign proposal/Lights

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Overhauling link jungle (unclear ones & duplicates)

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This will cause a good deal of trouble for no reason. -

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for the Main Page (based on 26 days in July 2008). The

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Same, although Twas now (above) makes a good point. --

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The current mainpage doesn't alienate either group. --

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No change, or eliminate altogether per the gray that

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:2008 main page redesign proposal

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Allows us to showcase a range of different topics --

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