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numbers of articles β all elections from all over the world, sports events and indeed all events on WP that use a separator. It is also the standard format in many academic publications so ties in to the 'real' world outside WP. Trying to change at this stage would be a ridiculous waste of time and
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refers to an event name such as the "U.S. presidential elections"; Examples will be given with each question. Since our signature dates are based on
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energy and would simply cause confusion as everyone has for two years been using it and will do doubt continue to use it. It would probably require thousands of redirects to be created. It would be a pointless change.
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Some conventions are generally used by some subjects, other conventions by other subjects. It is a needless guideline which will result in a lot of extra work which is really not required.
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American, I think if we can learn to edit and write articles, we can learn to adopt a standard date format for Knowledge.Β :-)
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as the separator between the event and date / date range?
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as the separator between the event and date / date range?
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