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347:, section J says they need to "Preserve the network location, if any, given in the Document for public access to a Transparent copy of the Document." This is an important provision for Knowledge (XXG) and it should be specifically noted. It means redistributors have to link directly to our original article (HTML is transparent) or the edit page (so is wikitext). The section goes on to say that "likewise the network locations given in the Document for previous versions it was based on."; enforced literally that would mean they have to link to every oldid version. However, I think both provisions (and the general history and authorship requirements) can reasonably be satisfied with a link to the original article. I also mentioned that the history section needs to be included and changes should be noted there. 274:
Not to get all patriotic or anything, but people have an inherent right to a free press that's recognized by the U.S. Constitution. Copyright is allowed as an exception to that freedom, but it should be remembered that copyright is the exception and freedom of the press is the norm, rather than the
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should provide clear instructions for Verbatim Copying and creation of Modified Versions. For more details, we can use a separate page. However, information about reusing should take up most of the page. Then, there can be short snippets about the other topics with links to the larger pages. I'll
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I made some changes to this section to better take into account what the GFDL actually says. First, it says nowhere that online distributors need provide a Transparent copy of their version; even if it did, the HTML web pages suffice (the GFDL specifically mentions "simple HTML" as Transparent).
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isn't really the right place for this. Where to put it? Some kind of guideline page for photographers who want to upload images, I guess. Which should mention not only buildings, but also other aspects: photos of 3D visual art works, photos of persons (think personal rights), etc.
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It's not that the law needs to know; it's that we do. For most authors, it's obvious what parts of their work are fair use, because they wrote the other parts. However we don't know what was written by other contributors and what is included under fair use, unless that is noted.
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Really? Every time you quote a copyrighted work, you're supposed to note that you're using it under Fair Use, and give the copyright information? That seems extraordinarily cumbersome, not to mention completely unnecessary from a legal standpoint.
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for details about how the text "is available." I know from direct experience that (some) mirrors rely on the page. There are already a variety of places for copyright information designed for Knowledge (XXG) editors, as your
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First, I really appreciate you taking the effort to get this moving. I've been suggesting things for a while on the talk page, but it's been dead in the water. Hopefully, this will attract attention (I've placed notices at
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is designed to fully explain how to reuse Knowledge (XXG) material. Shouldn't Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights be a fuller discussion of all copyrights on Knowledge (XXG), instead of focusing on this one aspect? –
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I think we should give a brief summary of the "verbatim copying" case. Note that in all cases (copying a single article, bulk copying, or distributing derivatives) a
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of the full text of the GFDL must be distributed with the copy. That should be speeled out clearly. Incidentally, the example at
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as well. Then I guess it would be a separate discussion as to whether the link at the bottom of each page should go to
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is wrong and should be corrected: it uses a link to some external copy of the GFDL. That is
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I haven't really read the page yet (sorry, I will, I promise!), but I have just written
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Hm, this is a complex issue. First off, should the reusers page be renamed
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to make more explicit that "fair use" is basically a U.S.-only thing.
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I could really use help here, so speak up if have ideas. –
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for details") should probably go there. (the link on the
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Maybe, but then the link at the bottom of the page ("see
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Knowledge (XXG):Public domain#Photographs of buildings
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Yeah, it seems to me that there should be a separate
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Knowledge (XXG):Image_use_policy#User-created_images
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Copyrights
Quadell
18:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Mirrors and forks
Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (policy)
Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights
template
Knowledge (XXG):Reusers
Knowledge (XXG):Mirrors and forks
Knowledge (XXG):How to copy Knowledge (XXG)
Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights
Superm401
Talk
00:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Reusers
Quadell
03:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Copyrights
Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights
Superm401
Talk
05:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Reusing Knowledge (XXG) content
Knowledge (XXG):Reusing our content
Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights
Knowledge (XXG):Copyrights
Knowledge (XXG):Reusing Knowledge (XXG) content
Quadell
13:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Copyright

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