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macroeconomics are things that are economic but not S&TI. There doesn't seem to be any great way to split up the topics, as all of these "output" areas -- TI, S&TI, economic intelligence -- all have collection, analysis, and, especially when deciding what to share with industry, dissemination issues.
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