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don't really need a giant friggin' portrait of Beethoven to represent the musical aspect of the arts: a simple line of music notes would be more than enough, and would be easier to fit into the layout in a non-obtrusive way. We should also avoid redundancies: we have the image of the dancers both near the top of the page and near the bottom (it's also poorly-alligned near the bottom), when we probably only need it near the bottom, in our signature template, especially since there's already an image depicting "dance" very near the top of the page; nor are two illustrations of comics, and two illustrations of literature, really necessaary (if you're going to include an extra one left-hand column, why not balance things out better and take a load off the page by removing one from the right-hand column?). But, as I said, the layout has potential.
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structure these in a consistant manner. In addition, there are some issues that might be best addressed here (i.e. an issue I have still yet to resolve in terms of theatre categories: should theatre be classified by country or by culture? This also affects the naming of the category ("Theatre in Italy" vs. "Italian theatre")). This is certainly a decision that would apply to all arts categories. Another issue arises with the use of British vs. English and then further what about Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish? What about artists, etc. under colonial rule? (i.e. Indians under British rule? classified as British, Indian or both?) Note, however, that I have noted and appreciated your sarcasm. :-) Cheers!
1732: 812:, in fact, scare off some users in practice, as it makes it significantly more troublesome to figure out where one has to edit in order to make changes occur on the page, such as the changes required to add oneself to the list of participants. I, for example, had to make 6 or 7 attempts in order to edit the right part of the page to tone down the glaring yellow color to a more reasonable and muted hue (though it was subsequently reverted for some reason..). 31: 334:", although the term is a bit problematic as in the classical sense it would mean grammar, logic, rhetoric, arithmetic, music, geometry, and astronomy. And of course you could argue the case for poetry being one of the "performing arts". This scheme hasn't actually been applied to the categories yet – I'll wait for some feedback from the project as to whether everything's in the right place before I go ahead with the changes. 1613:, which seems to offer guidance, or at least a starting point for discussion. I found this guidance "Capitalize the first letter of places (America, the West), nationalities (Native Americans, Europeans) and art movements (Cubism) except when used as an adjective (The painting is cubist in style)." from Art History Writing Guidelines, Colorado State University, a pdf converted to html by google in 554:: it seems to me that there are plenty of fans to keep these projects in the pink of health, and they neither need help like Theatre or Visual arts nor can they help us, as a big project like Music potentially could with related aspects of the arts. Perhaps I'm wrong, but do those pop culture topics really need what Project Arts is intended to offer as much as ones of the kind already on the list? 1473:
Mathematics and Science) that would otherwise be totally unrepresented in this category – not exactly a point that can be made for "ethnicity". (I would also approve of Economics and Religion being added for the same reason.) As we embark on our own categorisation saga, I hope we don't fall into the same trap of pedantry. Cheers to everyone for their spirited opposition so far.
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my intent only to "jazz up" this page and give it a bit of flair. I'm completely open to any suggestions as to how to make this page more presentable. Of course, any project member is encouraged to make any changes they wish! So, go at it. I'll take a look at it tomorrow and see what can be removed to let the "text breathe". Cheers!
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when we don't have to include "WikiProject Harry Potter" or "WikiProject Middle-earth" just to list "Novels" here, nor "WikiProject The Beatles" to list "Music" and "Musicians" here? That level of detail is unnecessary, as it should be covered on WikiProject Television, Music, Film, etc. instead, if anywhere. -
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The general rule for naming here is to only capitalize if it is a proper name. Of course, are these proper names, ah, there's the rub. I would go with only capitalizing the first name. Though certainly with one word terms like Expressionism, Impressionism, Dadism, etc., the term should be capitalized
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I must say that I think proposals like the one to remove Arts and Philosophy from this category seem bent on imposing an impossibly rigid structure on Knowledge (XXG), with no hope for flexibility. Arts and Philosophy deserve to be there simply because they are activities of the human mind (just like
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We have made some progress in developing an appropriate ‘project style’ based on Knowledge (XXG) policies, taking into account that we are using many terms and references in languages other than English. Categorization is disorganized and proliferated, perhaps it always will be on Knowledge (XXG)? It
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Ahhh, the art critics have appeared! Thank you for your critique. It should be pointed out that I'm not really a designer, i'm a thespian who has taken a few design courses. Basically, this design is the design I've used for the two theatre wikiprojects I've created as well as my own userpage. It was
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It will also probably look better when we don't have a cheesy Hallmark-esque quotation like "Art is the signature of civilizations." as our motto. :) Or lies like "Art means to dare — and to have been right." (Though I am, and long have been, fond of the "Art is useless" point. Wilde will be spared.)
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Remember that one of the key components of all fields of art is the ability to balance sound and silence, positive and negative: this page will look a lot healthier and more aesthetically pleasing when it's less cluttered and has a bit more subtlety and moderation in its presentation. There is a very
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The only new suggestion I have to add is that we perhaps formulate a sort of standard "Come and join the Arts Portal!" message and paste it on all of the related project/portal talk pages. Granted, some of them are a bit dead, but surely loads of people who joined and then forgot all about them still
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Yes, yes, absolutely yes to all of the above. I must confess that other than an arts COTW (a long way down the line from now, you're right) and looking after the portal I had only the haziest idea of how this project could actually improve individual articles, but your category suggestion sounds like
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etc. That's another thing we'll have to come to a consensus about for this policy proposal of ours. Neo-Plasticism and Neo-Impressionism are considerably less familiar or important developments for the other two, so are hyphens dropped for periods in the art historical mainstream? Neoclassicism with
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To properly label art-related articles, this includes not only categorizing them correctly but given them proper stub tags, cleanup tags (a cleanup section for arts articles should probably be located here), no referecnes tags, or even deleting them if they're not found to be encyclopedic. Certainly
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We have been increasing our activity from the end of last year and have recruited a number of new members. We are progressing through Wikipedias diet of article on Novel (of whatever level of elitism) and striving for increased quality and consistency. The consistency is more difficult to acheive as
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Two more thoughts. Perhaps we might send some spies over to WikiProject Science and find out what they're doing to create attention. We also might consider an arts related assessment of arts coverage as a whole. Taken it piece by piece and looking at how the arts of covered. Of course we need people
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Better looking apart from the colours - please, please go for something more subtle. We do not want to put people off before they join. Also I suspect once underway fully the layout will need to change again to be more functinal. At present this is beginning to take on the sharacter of a Portal. ::
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As I see it, certain categories can be applied to every art category, such as "Theatre by country", "Dance by country", "Visual arts by country", "Literature by country" and so forth. The same could go for categorizing artistic movements, artists, etc. The purpose of the categorization would be to
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One project this group might consider should be sorting out arts related catagories. Certainly working on a general arrangement of them and then working downwards. Being that they are so related, perhaps creating a model category for arts related fields and then working to bring other arts related
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One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets
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to be changed – and I suppose Ganymead's (IMO marvellous) in-house style is something you either love or hate – let's at least keep it looking distinctive. Perhaps we should be taking our cue from some of the more aesthetically successful userpages. I see no reason why ours should look like every
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I don't see any need to add series-specific projects here. I was suggesting that we add WikiProject Film and WikiProject Television, not that we add WikiProject Star Wars or WikiProject Doctor Who or anything of the sort; why would we have to include those just to include "Film" and "Television",
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Since we encompass such a large area, I think trying to work on individual articles might be difficult. Perhaps the purpose could be to enhance co-operation between projects and portals, certainly maintenance of all arts related portals, and perhaps an arts article collaboration (only if there is
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shows no signs of life I thought setting this up might be a good idea. I was also disappointed with the lack of support for some articles in COTW and AID which I thought might benefit from the attention of an arts project. As far as I can see, nobody's maintaining the portal regularly, other than
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to breathe. Rather than shoving a bunch of huge (albeit very well-chosen) images down our readers' throats, some tasteful, selective placements at carefully-chosen and well-balanced intervals along the page will ultimately be more effective, compelling, and inviting to new users. As examples, we
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Invalid argument, as the Humanities is not at the top level either. I will continue to support removing "Art" (and "Philosophy") from the Top 10, as its clearly an aspect of culture. If we include "Art" at the top level, we'll also have to include every other major sub-category of culture, like
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is not a well defined category. It's a mixture of social science items, arts and arts institutions, sport, philosophy, religion etc. even housing, humor and travel! It would be better to exclude the arts (which are reasonably well-defined) and stick to a proper anthropological/social science
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As I have stated above, I think that one of the major goals of this WikiProject should be a top-down organization of arts related categories. Once this has been completed, there will still need to be reguilar maintenance of categories as articles are added. The goals of this should be:
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Go ahead and re-word it as you wish. I didn't create this as a template as I don't see it being used very much. Certainly once the project gets off the ground we may consider making this a template, but as it stands I think just inserting the code will work just as well.
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So, how should categorization go? Has a categorization scheme already been invented by historians or sociologists to categorize the arts and artistic endeavor? I'm going to search for one, but if anyone knows of a book or web site that discusses such a scheme, let us
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is simply wrong. Naming conventions only allow articles like "the" to be used if the name of the category is a specific title. Certainly, both "arts" and "the arts" refers to the same exact thing, the article doesn't add anything in this context. As for
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First I think we need to redo the Project page. I jazzed up the page for WikiProject Theatre, just to make it more visually appealing; we're artists aren't we? In addition, we need to have a scope and mission statement as well as ways to help the
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Hello Sparkit, and welcome. Thankyou for diving into this issue and bringing out attention to the CfD page. I've been away performing so I haven't been keeping up. It appears, so far, that consensus here is to move everything to
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I threw together a new layout for the mainpage. Now, it looks much better, methinks. Certainly not as sterile as it was. If anyone thinks the yellow is too bright, feel free to change the colours or let me know and I'll do it.
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Why are television-, film- and radio-related WikiProjects currently excluded from this list? They're no more or less "artistic" than sculpture, comics, or music. Also, what about other, non-theatrical performing arts, like
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Further point. I would argue for the Arts as one of the three basic (traditional) categories alongside the Humanities (including history, geography, philosophy, languages etc.) and the Sciences (including technology). -
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Ah, I see your point about the unnecessary definite article, Ganymead – I was thinking only in terms of expediency, but you're right, "Arts" is preferable to "The arts". I also want to call everyone's attention to
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I agree, as long as the design isn't too esoteric. We don't want to alienate people with an élitist design that's hard to use. But I definitely like what's going on now with the design. Good work, Ganymead!
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are fundamental because they represent creative aspirations. If you reduce them to a sub-category of culture, you treat them as an aspect of human behaviour. Perhaps that is what you mean when you say that
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Lastly I hope members here respect the work done by the individual projects and do not try to impose solutions on them. Advice will be much appreciated, but not peremptory editing! Best regards to all. -
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Ok, now that we've signed up, what can we do to start fostering a relationship between the all the arts on Knowledge (XXG)? What can we do to improve articles? Should we all introduce ourselves first?
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I have voted on the Category:Arts and Category:Fine arts to suspend the voting until this project can make a proposal. Merging Category:Visual arts with Category:Art, IMO, is ummmmmmm uninformed.
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Novels come in all shapes and styles and articles that pre-exist are more difficult to bring to consistency. Anyway all the best. I have joined up as a contact between these projects. ::
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Portal:Science will look impressive. In fact, the whole idea of this project as I envisaged it was of stealing all of the Science project's best ideas, so I'm glad you caught on to that!
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Just some ideas in stream-of-conciousness order. On the re-design of the project page, I have very little time now, but I may be able to tackle it shortly and redesign it if you like.
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I don't know where all capitalization of art movements is discussed, but I've found no consistency amongst resources such as dictionaries and encyclopedias. Some research is here,
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I would be in favour of art movements being capitalised, because in lower case terms like romantic, mannerism etc. might not immediately be recognisable as art terms. I found the
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thin line between a beautiful art gallery and a bloated mound of shinies; we should strongly resist the urge to bloat this page with shiny images, cutting off all room for the
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Welcome! We're glad to have your input here. One of the things I'd like to see this porject accomplish is a cleanup of arts-related categories. See below. Again, welcome!
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Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is a proper noun (such as a name) or is otherwise almost always capitalized (for example: John Wayne and
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Looking through the naming conventions, I think there's a case to be made for capitalisation of all words bar those that are not conjunctions. Album titles do so and
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sculpture) a few minutes ago but clearly there needs to be a voting process in place to decide which FAs/FPs appear on the Portal page. Another huge problem is that
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Opera has also been an active area during the past few months. We have a long way to go before we can begin to rival the coverage of the main print resource (the
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To better organize all arts related categories. Not only to aid those working on the categories but to make these categories easier for users of Knowledge (XXG).
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rather than the Novels project's chart) as a possible blueprint for the eventual arrangement of the categories, and probably the first thing you notice is how "
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detailing the categories, including those that have yet to be created. This could be helpful, certainly for the upper eschelons of the arts categories.
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This is all just a suggestion. Should interest exist, I'll whip up a project subpage to work on this. As for me, it's 4:30 AM and I need sleep. Cheers!
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Such a pretty little tag, I'm considering rewording it as almost a sort of party invitation – I've never seen that done before. Perhaps with the header
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to follow naming conventions. This is a good subject to bring up...certainly once we reach a decision we should consider submitting a policy proposal.
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Welcome! We're certainly glad to have a representative of WikiProject Novels! I just glanced at the project and I'm particularly impressed with the
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a hyphen would look very strange to me, although Postimpressionism without one looks rather odd as well. As the latter term was invented by
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I just did a few calculations. Of Featured articles, arts-related articles comprise roughly 20%, while they comprise 19% of Good articles.
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I would argue that the neatest way of resolving this would be for every subdivision of the arts to have a "by region" category, as with
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call the whole project's attention to – this would change the whole architecture of Knowledge (XXG), and I don't think in our favour.
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One of the first things that really needs attention is the fact that we have three major category headings for this area. They are:
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We've made categorisation our main priority for this project, so I felt the need to draw your attention to these proposals.
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about naming. I think having three categories completely confuses the issue. My suggestion would be to combine these under
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Greetings! Well, I'm a theatre person and spend much of time working on articles relating to it. I also help maintain
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Once categories begin to be more organized, we can better get an idea of what is missing and what areas need work.
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One thing that struck me about that list is the rather arbitrary use of hyphens: the Oxford Dictionary of Art has
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I'm of the opinion all of those should be included. I didn't even consider Magic, but it certainly does qualify.
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will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.
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It's been suggested at the above section that the link to Arts at the top of the main page be removed also.
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style guide rather contradictory: "sharply delimited period titles are capitalized", but they put "
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Talk:Main Page#Proposed change to the top of the page subject list ("Culture" to replace "Arts")
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To search out articles that need to be categorized and "corral" them in the proper categories.
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This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:
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I've seen this discussed somewhere, but now I can't find it again. The case in point is
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a bit off-putting. Also a serious issue is that the use of tables on pages like this
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this will also help to locate articles needing to be merged and renamed as well.
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might be helpful if the Arts Project produced some guidelines. I see there is a
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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didn't have a featured article or picture ready to feature! I knocked together
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Thanks for the compliments. Feel free to tweak the design if y'all would like.
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My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.
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definition of culture, in my opinion. But then another of the top 10 is
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Tony, I had a bash at what you might call a "categorization scheme" on
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For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:
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can clearly go because this talk page is the only page on it. As for
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a good place to start – an orderly list of categories on the portal
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in all the arts disciplines to really be able to do this well.
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I'm damning with faint praise, but I can live with it. :)
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*Exeunt* Ganymead
Dialogue?
22:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
*Exeunt* Ganymead
Dialogue?
22:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Visual arts
Cyberjunkie
HAM

22:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Portal:Theatre
WikiProject Theatre
WikiProject Elizabethan theatre
*Exeunt* Ganymead
Dialogue?
23:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
*Exeunt* Ganymead
Dialogue?
23:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
HAM

16:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

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