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1087:. He made his Major League umpiring debut on September 30, 2010. His uniform number is 90." I have created eleven pages and ten of them are about umpires. You can find a link to each of them on my user page, and feel free to borrow formatting you find there. As for the previous deletions, it appears that the one in 2009 was actually written about a boxer. The one in 2008 might not have been about Conroy either, seeing as his MLB debut didn't come until late September 2010. 145: 215:. I won't be active in article work with this project, but I can help with any behind the scenes thing. I can work on some tagging later, once the template is modified per the edit request. If anybody notices any problems (i.e. the pages being added to nonexistent templates rather than the ones I created) let me know. In addition, we should make sure that the category pages and template pages are added. 32: 87: 63: 97: 1307: 2061:
for a few days. I stumbled on the article accidentally. Of all of the baseball figures I'd never heard of, Irwin led one of the most interesting and bizarre lives. Umpiring may have actually been his least interesting contribution. There are still some gaps in the article and it has been difficult to
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A notice to all fellow task force members (and anyone else reading this): Please be aware that with the postseason now upon us, the umpires will be under much more scrutiny and any controversy has the potential to spark vandalism of umpire-related pages, among others. As many of you may have noticed,
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I reclassified it as start rather than stub, I also added it to high importance, I think that being the first black umpire in the MLB is a big deal so it should be of high importance to this project, in addition it is rated mid importance for WikiProject baseball. In addition, I think a good rule of
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The importance-tagging criteria looks great, except for one thing: current minor league umpires are listed as Mid Importance. Personally, I don't know of a single article on Knowledge (XXG) devoted to a minor league umpire, and I'm not sure they are notable enough to deserve articles. If this is the
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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you?
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Ok, although I personally have no great love for the umpire infobox. It can't currently be used for retired umpires because one has to place something in the crew member fields, however I could probably figure out how to change that if need be. Now, I don't think that we necessarily need to remove
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also saw some misdirected vandalism regarding Holbrook's call as Nelson was the 3B Ump, Holbrook the LF one). I imagine that before it is all said and done, we will see plenty more of this, so feel free to keep your eyes out for a significantly greater level of umpire-page vandalism than usual as
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If nobody else in the task force objects, I would suggest that we tab a weekly umpire article for improvement. We can informally choose one article here at the start of every week to be collaboratively improved. Of course, this doesn't mean we can't work on other articles, but maybe this type of
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I'm fine with either way. The issue may take care of itself; I just don't think there are a lot of articles left to create. A lot of the remaining red links on the MLB umpires list are people who have questionable notability under the "regular league staff" standard.
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The Meals page did see some slight improvement during the past week. It might not have been huge, but it would likely not have happened at all if not for the new Article for Improvement (AfI). As for this week's page, I would suggest
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Judging by the criteria I have provided, Ashford would be either a mid or low importance page. However, he was the first black umpire in the MLB, so I have decided to ask for some other opinions on what assessment should be given.
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I don't know how anyone else feels about this, but it is my opinion that an umpire's first MLB ejection is significant enough to be included on his page. I would however, like to hear what the rest of the task force has to say.
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It appears there is no disagreement with the nomination. However, I will be away from Knowledge (XXG) this week, so if it is preferable that someone else choose this week's article for improvement, that is fine with me.
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He is a minor-league call-up umpire. In other words, he serves as vacation relief/injury replacement. I believe there are about 20 such umpires, and it is from this pool that new full-time umps are hired.
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By minor league umpires, I was referring to umpires currently serving as call-ups. In other words, they are officially not on the Major League staff, and are used as vacation relief or injury replacement.
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Posted on your talk page, but I think NYB has a great idea; it won't be easy, but if we get a solid team together, I think it'd be attainable. I'm in, but I certainly can't take it on my own.
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it made me realize that my rule for thumb was for people known for being umpires. I think for people known for being players they will generally be equally or less important in this project.
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On another note, how common is it for an umpire to ump in the world series? Would it make sense for former umpires who umped in one or more World Series to be labelled high importance?
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thumb for when we're confused, it would make sense for us to be one level of importance higher than the total wikiproject importance (again, that should only apply in borderline cases).
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has been promoted to GA status! I would like to do a collaborative effort for the next GA, perhaps on one of the recently retired umps who's info might not change much in the future.
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I have been listing new articles in the recent project news section on the task force page. I'm not really sure this is necessary and I'd like to know what the other opinions are.
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has suggested that we try and get O'Day to FA in time for his induction. I think that is a fine idea and would like the help of the task force on discussing how to go about this.
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I thought that Meals was a great suggestion. I added some early career info. I haven't dealt with the undue weight given to the bad call in the game that went 19 innings.
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By all means feel free. I probably should be pitching in also, but I've been trying to get involved in some other areas, like CSD (and you saw where that got me).
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Good work. I cleaned it up a little, but thanks for taking the initiative and creating it. Having a lot of that kind of experience will come in handy at your RfA.
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I likely will not be available to work on this again until the 29th. I just wanted to make it clear that I fully intend to be back and haven't left permanently.
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If nobody objects to the idea, I would suggest we choose an article each Saturday for targeting throughout the next week. For this week, I would nominate
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I propose that special assignment lists for all MLB umpires be taken out of the article text and placed within the bio-box to the right, such as in
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I think you misread it, the way I understood it, mid-importance are former major-league umpires who are currently umping in the minor-league.
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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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We'll make it a supplimental, succinct list. And if need be, we can always go back from ump infobox to person infobox upon retirement.
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I added 200 some articles to the task force. There is a chance that some slipped through, but I believe that every article listed in
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the assignments from the article text, at the least World Series and All-Star games assignments should be mentioned there.
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has been promoted to GA status. Kudos to Go Phightins! and Eric Enfermero for their help. Hope you liked my little
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this is the season for such vandalism in much greater numbers. A helpful page to use to keep an eye on things is
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for this task force. In the sandbox, I have provided a very basic outline for an article that I intend to call "
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Although I have created 3 articles, none are BLPs. What intro should be used for a BLP about an umpire? Thanks,
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So, I went ahead and created the categories. Something like 24 categories. I also created a redirect from
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organize because he held so many positions. I'm open to any feedback if anyone would like to have a look.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Hi. I am interested in referees across all sports and was wondering if this project was still active?
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Well, a problem with that is that most umpire articles are not currently using the umpire infobox.
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to this task force. It makes it a little easier to find. The categories I created are listed at
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I agree with that as a rule of thumb - when in doubt, err on the side of higher importance. -
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Where do you find his middle name and birthdate? MLB.com only has his uniform number (98).
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I think it would be good progress for this task force if we could collaboratively make
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Just to let people know, I finished my trial period, you can view my first 25 edits at
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I think that from now on, I'll just leave it up to the article creator's discretion.
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Thinking about it. Good suggestion to take it to the wikiproject at large. Thanks!
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Which is another conversion I think we should make at a leisurely pace, of course
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as well, in case there are some umps that aren't listed under both categories.
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emphasis on individual articles will help get us some more featured content.
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It is common enough that I don't believe it should influence the assessment.
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I know I'm a couple days late for this week's AfI, but I will nominate
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At this point, I guess it would be a good idea to ask for some help on
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This sounds like a good idea to me. Might be worthwhile to do it for
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Definitely a bizarre character. You might get more input if you try
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Good job, sir. I'm usually down for whatever. Just let me know.
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What is his status (current, part-time, retired)? Thank you,
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I've created a new article about the MLB Umpires' charity,
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If consensus is created, I'd like to submit a BRFA to use
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O'Day is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame and
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as an article we are trying to promote to GA status.
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Be sure to see and/or take part in the discussion at
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case, are we sure they deserve a Mid Importance tag?
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