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which is then apparently being used to assume no recoveries in Ohio since worldometers is also reporting a "recovered" number for the country as a whole, so they must be aggregating stuff that can't be aggregated. At best they should be reporting "reported recoveries" and "cases reported as active" if they're getting that level of detail from some depts of health.
1740:- Early on, "Confirmed Cases" would be lab confirmed (mostly PCR) tests, with a higher number for "Suspected cases" which includes clinical diagnoses during test shortages. Later, moving the "Confirmed Cases" and "Suspected Infections" as we learned how many asymptomatic infections there were, and clinical diagnoses became a vanishingly small proportion of cases.
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Infections" from "Suspected Cases". COVID provides a good example of this, with some early cases prior to widespread lab testing being diagnosed through clinical exam and/or epidemiology (close contact with a lab confirmed case), and these cases almost by definition only being symptomatic infections. So the way I see it:
763:: We are tracking officially confirmed cases, deaths and recoveries. By definition, official sources are reliable for this. Why do you say Venezuela has no reliable sources in this case? Even the most biased state-run media outlets around the world are generally valid to cite government officials' claims. --
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I think that, in terms of how they're being used, "Infections" and "Suspected
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field structure does not yet account for this focus on 'infections', allowing only 'Suspected cases' — which currently contains the 'Infection' text quoted in the preceding paragraph. In view of 1) the CDC distinction (noted above) between IFR and CFR and 2) the WHO speakihg (also above) in terms of
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Feature Layer in ESRI's arcgis system, which was build from the California state data from the WP template. ! Now switching to JHU because it is more regularly updated... But we should confirm this + work with thowever it was making that
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lede (lab tests, confirmed, deaths). Feel free to list them on this project page too. The
Ministry of Health or equivalent institution is usually the only source for this information. You will find secondary sources citing them, but reliable sources using different underlying data are rare, except
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All four of these parameters are epidemiologically useful. (For example: what fractions of each of the first three groups are likely to be SARS-CoV-2 positive? what fractions will fall ill with COVID-19? what fractions have seasonal influenza instead? is it a wise strategy to quarantine people and
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Department of Health, but ODH is reporting only cumulative cases and deaths, and worldometers is doing arithmetic to arrive at a number for "active cases" for Ohio,
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maybe that was for a moment while CA and NY were going through process changes. It is usually ~1 day ahead of CDC, and reflects reports at the state level -- which is always lagging a bit behind county-level reports. But we should work with them to coordinate updates -- they are hand-reviewing
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and occasionally on some country-specific articles. Some editors are doing the same, while others are focusing on a single country-specific article. I think we can be more efficient if some editors are committed to update, at least, some subset of countries. In my case, I can be faster sourcing
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If there are many (are there any?) other territories providing these daily statistics, then we might want to consider something more systematic than just a note for these territories. (Does Sweden provide daily statistics of the number of elderly people self-isolating, for example?)
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Illinois Department of Public Health's official numbers that come out daily. However, their information is typically a day behind the local county health departments official numbers. Should we include both the local and the state numbers?
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Duckduckgo and Qwant? Did you do so before my message? Did you directly reach out to Bing - the search engine of an organisation focussed on authoritarian control and privacy
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in at least some periods. Generally, the more infections a country has, the more noisy (super-Poissonian) the daily counts are. With a few exceptions. This theme might become WP-notable if mainstream media take it up. (Disclaimer: COI)
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that an 'Infections' field be added to allow for clearer presentation of this new metric relevant to COVID–19 and any other future outbreak where a substantive fraction of infections are asymptomatic or mild.
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